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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:24 PM
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Has Texas decided not to try evacuating Houston?
Does anyone know if they are evacuating Houston? :shrug:

The forecast track for Rita has shifted a little North again, but Houston is well within the strike zone, and with a storm this large, Houston could receive a LOT of damage.

WTF? :wtf:Does the Texas Government think the Hurricane damage will stop at he Houston City limits?

33 hour forecast track and wind field at the links below

<http://tsr.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/tracker/dynamic/200518N_3H.html>

<http://tsr.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/>
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:26 PM
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1. Maybe they believe that even Hurricanes "don't mess with Texas"
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:28 PM
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3. Who's "they" ?
Or are you just being CRASS?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:32 PM
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8. They are the TEXAS GOVERNMENT
I'm not being crass, if a lot of people in Houston end up Dead, THEY should be held to account. Unless they think that it would be imposable to evacuate Houston safely.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:35 PM
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10. Look... I am sorry...
But if you honestly think that our state government wants to purposely KILL people, your pretty loony.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:29 PM
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5. Maybe an evacuation has been underway for at least a day.
:eyes: It's all over the news.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:28 PM
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2. Have you seen the news?
Have you seen the massive traffic jams? Yeah.... Houston IS evacuating, it's just taking some time. Houston is a city of 4 million.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:30 PM
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7. Is contraflow in effect? It sure doesn't look like it.
They're really going to have to get that traffic moving, or they're going to have hundreds of cars run out of gas on the highway, slowing the flow even more, and potentially stranding families.

What's going on down there?
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:33 PM
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9. People are evacuating...
That's what happens when you have huge condensed counties next to each other. TXDOT has already made I-10 and I-45 one way. HOustons schools have been closed for 2 days now.

Are you guys just NOT getting the news?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:36 PM
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11. It's just that the video they're showing doesn't look that way.
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 12:41 PM by VolcanoJen
They keep showing these major highways around Houston, and it looks like cars are still driving in... three-four lanes of the highway look empty, while three-four lanes on the other side look like a parking lot.

I've never been there, so I'm really just trying to get a Texan's perspective as well as the truth.

ON EDIT: For example... is this what contraflow is supposed to look like?

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:56 PM
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22. No, that would be the exact opposite of contraflow. Our gov. is a MoFo.
End of story. He's a well-coiffed incompetent. Contraflow is a no-brainer, so that should be right up his alley. They are the state's highways. He needs to make certain contraflow is in effect and not just mouthe words to look good to the media.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:07 PM
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24. Live on CNN right now... a solid backup on Houston's freeways.
I can understand people still need to get in, to be with their families, or evacuate them.

But I dunno, Governor Goodhair... how about two lanes to get into Houston, and eight lanes to get out?

Just 'sayin.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:58 PM
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23. Contraflow? There are still people going in there to get
people and animals out.

Including my husband.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:37 PM
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:29 PM
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4. Ummmm
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:29 PM
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6. big chunks of houston are under evac orders
see chron.com for details.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:39 PM
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13. Houston is HUGE. Parts wont be hit hard, others will. Selective evacuation
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:56 PM
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19. This storm is a lot bigger than Houston
If it makes a direct hit, which it could, you're still talking a Cat 3 hurricane hitting most of Houston. Would you want to be the one that didn't get the evacuation order?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:40 PM
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:42 PM
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15. Oh, great.
:eyes:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:48 PM
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17. * could do more to get people out.
Where's FEMA? Again, failed to show up on the scene. Where's the Red Cross? How do they know where all those people are going? How many people are going to die in this one? When will the Administration learn?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:50 PM
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18. No it's not Bonehead, it's the State and local government's job.
The Feds are responsible for helping folks after the storm.

I've been here, where the hell have you been with you 1 post? You're not going to last long here with this type of post.
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:42 PM
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16. Here's the real deal..
Houston be screwed.

Sit at home and be terrified by the media.
Worry about friends and family stuck on the road - no gas in the tank.

Sit on the freeway and worry about those who didn't leave.
Worry when the tank will run out, the engine overheat, how much longer you can hold your own bladder.


Which sounds like more fun to you?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:59 PM
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20. They're doing what they can.
The evacuation plan didn't assume that so many people that don't need to pick up and leave would do so. Result: massive traffic jam.

Overnight they realized they needed to introduce contraflow traffic patterns: this takes some coordination, breaking up a 100-mile-long parking lot. They've started contraflow patterns on some evacuation routes; they're planning on starting it on some others, and evaluating yet others.

The planners are people. They haven't done a bad job, so far, by any means.
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:34 PM
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21. They just reversed lanes. eom
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:13 PM
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25. Well, It's Official, Just heard Texas Gov. blame those who run out of gas
in these bumper to bumper traffic jams for not following his orders to get out 2 days ago.

Heard it on NPR hourly update.

What a Jerk. :mad:
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:47 PM
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26. I thought repubs believe 'target the criminal, not the victim'
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