Conservatives will withdraw troops in 2006

[thefloyd]

Conservatives will want to retain power in both House and Senate.
Cons love power and control. Just my "expert opinion".

How do others feel on Du?

[PowerToThePeople]

1. How will they keep the spigots on?

They are not worried, Diebold is still on their side.

[mitchtv]

2. watch them outflank Dems like Hillary, Schumer ,

Biden, etc . Poor things

[thefloyd]

8. I think Hillary has kept quiet

because she knows Cons will withdrawal in 2006. I hate saying this but
if Hillary does not show strength on Defense Cons will definitely use her gender as an issue IF Hillary runs

[BobBoudelangFan69]

3. Claim Victory + Bring Troops Home = GOP Election Win.

so goes ID math. (Along with Diebold of course)

Dems must be aware of this strategy. It will work!

[mitchtv]

5. important caveat

the civil war must not break out until after the election.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. that has been my feeling for a while

if it is possible, they will declare victory and go home

[obxhead]

6. I've thought along those lines as well, but I doubt it will happen.

I think troop levels will increase as the Iraqi Civil war explodes into full force.
edit: I can't spell.

[brainshrub]

7. I don't see how.

This is an oil-war, plain & simple.

Unless there is some way to secure the oil for American corporations without the use of US troops, they aren't coming home anytime soon.

[BobBoudelangFan69]

11. Obviously, Use Mercenary Army. Money Buys Everything.

USA uses them now.

[brainshrub]

16. Mercenaries are notoriously bad for guarding things.

Think about it: All China has to do if offer more money and *poof* all that precious oil is gone.

[BobBoudelangFan69]

18. Yes! And After The (S)election, Send Troops Back In (Secretly).

Nixon did it and so will GOP.

[thefloyd]

12. Chalabi has been put in control

of Finance and Energy. Chalabi will somehow become leader of Iraq after
DEC 15. As long as Chalabi is around I have no doubt America will have access to Iraqs oil

[Disturbed]

14. Repubs and Dems agree on Iraq.

One more year is all the full force Occupation can be maintained. The Amerikan people and the Oligarchy are united on this. The major force will withdraw a few months before the '06 Elections.

These troops will remain for a few more years.


"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush



Bush Regime Iraq Successes

1. Saddam will no longer sell Iraqi oil via the Euro.

2, A military foothold in the ME. Other than Saudi Arabia.

3, No countries will be able to buy Iraqi oil that the U.S. disapproves of.

4. The Multi-Intl. Oil Corps are reaping great profits.

5. The Military Industrial Complex is a booming Industry.

[texpatriot2004]

9. Neocons will NOT stop wars. No way. These are not true GOP

"conservatives" in power. This administration is a NEOCON one. There is a difference. The neocon agenda is war without end.

The GOP has been hijacked by neocons.

[thefloyd]

13. I comletely agree

However, Bush has become a huge liability with the American public and Congress is not filled with neocons. There really is no reason to tow the party line. just my opinion though

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[bigwillq]

10. I feel there will be withdrawals

as Nov 06 approaches.

[shadowknows69]

15. More than likely they'll be partial withdrawals

which will actually leave the remaining soldiers in more danger. All for politics. Lives for votes.

[bigwillq]

17. I agree.

Partial. I don't expect full withdrawal for many, many years.

[niallmac]

21. My question exactly. How do you partially withdraw troops

without increasing the danger to the rest? Do you sequester forces on our new bases in Iraq?
I am not a military strategist but withdrawing from a theater of war that is hot seems pretty tricky to me.

[thefloyd]

26. I am not so

sure troops left in Iraq will be in more danger. Many people believe
American troops are fueling the insurgency. Just my opinion though

[niallmac]

42. Some people may believe the troops are fueling the insurgency

but I absolutely effing KNOW they are fueling the insurgency. We are the redcoats.
I am just wondering how you get these people out safely. I in no way support what we are doing there.

[Vinca]

19. I agree 100%. All of a sudden "spreading democracy" will take

a back seat to keeping seats in Congress. The 'pukes are always out for #1 and it will have nothing to do with what is or is not happening in Iraq.

[thefloyd]

22. Yeah.

Cons will continue to point to the elected goverment and contitution as
"Spreading Freedom". However, the American public will definitely see through the "politics"

[B Calm]

20. What conservatives? You must be talking about the Right-Wing NAZI's

[DeepModem Mom]

23. They will probably be coming home to parades across the nation --

which will be wonderful, but tragically long overdue, and many will have been lost forever. Will people remember that this was a war of choice, sacrificing our blood and treasure for a disastrous adventure that has cost us far, far too much, in countless ways?

[Marr]

24. No way.

They can't just pull out for two reasons:

Politically, that would mean abandoning the entire current rational for BEING in Iraq in the first place. Simply withdrawing from an unpopular war won't win them any support at all if it's a retreat.

Practically, it would mean relinquishing US control of Iraq's oil, and they will not do that willingly- ever.

Their only possible angle is to say 'victory is near, our plan is working, Dems have no plan, we'll be out of Iraq soon, peace with honor, don't change course mid-stream', blah blah blah.

That's the only thing they *can* do.

[thefloyd]

28. Well if Democrats

get control of the House and Senate Or one of the two Bush's presidency is over. Democratic Subpoena power will drown Buscho in their lies for good

[tularetom]

25. Republicans in the house and senate

will want to withdraw troops because they will be up for reelection but I'm afraid Bush has painted himself into a corner. If he had started talking about troop withdrawals back at the time of his reelection or even at the time of the forst Iraq elections he would still have some wiggle room but even as recently as Friday he's still talking the macho stay the course bullshit. If he makes a 180 now or any time before the midterms he will no longer be able to claim that he is a "strong resolute leader". And the dems if they have any brains at all will praise him for bringing the troops home thereby sowing major discord in the repub ranks.

[AlCzervik]

27. That will be a really dangerous time for the troops, even more then now

and i'm sure that will be a factor in the decision.

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[laura888]

32. Disagree

This administration and the neo-cons have no intention of scaling anything back. If anything, they want things to ratchet up in the ME.

It will be interesting to see whether republican congress members say "we need to get out." But I think these will just be words. They have no intention of carrying them out.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

33. Actually on This Week, I believe, I watched and/or taped all 3, except

for the entire Meet the Press (it re-airs at 3:30am, so I can tape it), someone said that the UN WILL be involved by then so the withdrawal maybe possible. I have to take the tape out so, I can save it and re-watch.

[Disturbed]

36. The Iraqi Govt. will request a withdrawl and there will be a ...

partial draw down. The Repubs know how to frame any issue. They will frame this in a way that it won't appear as "cut and run". The lanquage will be framed just as they frame everything else.

As I posted these troops will remain.


"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush

[I_Make_Mistakes]

37. The problem is the general population is catching on, better late

than never!

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Nothing would surprise me

They'd have some fake phoney "pull the troops out" nonsense like with "Mission Accomplished." It wouldn't surprise me at all because going into Iraq was just lined up perfectly for the 2002 midterms. I remember earlier this year seeing a scroll on CNN that said they were planning on pulling out according to the Pentagon. A few months before I saw that scroll they were denying it and than I see that scroll. Go figure.

[Quixote1818]

38. Thats a risky strategy but one they will have to take if they want to try

win. It could pay off but it could embolden the opposition and increase the number of casualties which could completely devastate the Republicans in 06.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

39. I doubt it, without a REAL coalition, it will fall on the US (our back)!

We backed ourselves in a corner with Iraq, if we bail, and civil war erupts, it's our fault, if, we don't, the US casualties escalates.

Thanks to the Repukes, we are in a lose, lose situation!

I think the enemy is much smarter than those running the country, I would not even doubt it was part of the plan all along (of the t's). If one studies the incestral relationship in our gov't positions, inbreeding leds to birth defects, right?

I believe that it won't get better, which, is why Chaney is pressing so hard for the torture inclusion. Desperation leds to desperate acts!

Anyone who condones torture is by Default not a Christian! Jesus, himself was tortured!