Soldier's family cries with Bush

[ECH1969]

For about 20 minutes Tuesday, the MacKenzie family met privately with President Bush as he offered sympathy and listened to stories about Pfc. Tyler MacKenzie, a 20-year-old solider killed in Iraq earlier this month by a roadside bomb.

"We cried, and I had to pull out some Kleenex and give it to everyone else," Tyler's grandmother Mary MacKenzie said.

Emmett MacKenzie, a 75-year-old Korean War veteran, said Bush reassured them that there would be no pullout of troops until Iraqis could provide their own security. "He said we wouldn't quit, and we told him we didn't want to quit until the job was done," Emmett MacKenzie said.

"We want to continue, and we're behind him 100 percent."

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/government/article/0,2777,DRMN_23906_4276746,00.html

:puke:

[Bluebear]

1. "We cried, and I had to pull out some Kleenex & ive it to everyone else...

besides Bush, who seemed strangely unmoved and not responsible."

[TaleWgnDg]

2. Attaway, so tis okay to have more U.S. military killed, maimed,

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Attaway, so tis okay to have more U.S. military killed, maimed, and mentally impaired to "compensate" for the prior U.S. military killed, maimed, and mentally impaired? Oh. How logical can it get?

At what point, then, is it logically okay to stop the killing, maiming, and mental impairment of U.S. military in the name of prior killings, maimings, and mental impairments of our U.S. military?

Hand me that shovel because I think more shit needs to be shoveled against the incoming tide. Need I mention that the military is trained not to question authority? Oh. Thus, the military is a magnet for bible-thumpers and parochial educated youth? Oh. Pass me that bible too. Shall I say, "God help us all?"
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[Oeditpus Rex]

3. Apparently, that's how we're supposed to support the troops

By continuing to let them get killed.

But if we don't want them to get killed anymore, we're not supporting them.



Yeah, I get it...



:shrug:

[Blue_In_AK]

4. They sound like they're on some kind of "holy war"

Why in the world would anyone who had just lost their son (in what is most certainly a 'vanity war') want more parents' kids to die? That makes absolutely no sense at all to me. Just what "job" is it that they want to see done? I saw three films smuggled out of Falluja tonight, and I'm really upset. What is going on over there is criminal, and we should have no part in it. I saw babies with their flesh burned off of them, grotesquely distorted faces, melted skin and hair. It is beyond horrible what our president has ordered in Iraq. We have to stop this insanity.

[wake.up.america]

5. It must be very difficult for family members to admit ...

their family member(s) died for an insane president. Very sad, oh so sad.

However, I will not lie to anyone, despite my sympathy for those family members, about the futility of this war to make them "feel" better.

[Solly Mack]

6. It's their family member that died - I can't tell them how to grieve the

death - nor would I presume to - that would be fairly arrogant of me to do so.

I don't agree with them and I think it's a shame and a tragedy that they have the need to believe in Bush and believe the lies.

Acknowledging that the government lied in no way takes away from their soldier - but acknowledging the lies would help to save other soldiers and Iraqis from dying because of the lies.

[Jella]

7. I couldn't agree more

It only makes my heart ache more when I hear them say they continue to support the war so that their son won't die in vain. From losing my mother just a year ago, I know that it takes along time, and the grieving process is a long one. I think if I were face to face with them, all I could say was.... I'm sorry.

[Solly Mack]

9. I'm sorry for your loss

I lost my mother in 92 and yes, it's a long slow process. The loss of a child or a parent cuts us in a way we don't expect until it happens.

I agree - as much as I despise this war, I would never say anything other than I'm sorry to the family.

Yes, I think the soldiers are dying in vain - but for that moment in time, out of my own sorrow over the needless death and respect for the family's grief, I'm sorry would be all I could say to them. Oh, other words would be there, just waiting to bubble over - but I would hold my tongue.

In time they may come to see it differently - and in time I might speak of the lies to them - but in that moment, when grief is consuming them, I couldn't hurt them that way.

[symbolman]

8. Where in the HELL do THESE people

think they get the RIGHT to have OTHER PEOPLE'S Sons and Daughters KILLED now that they've lost their loved one?

I mean really. Think about the arrogance.. they have my sympathy for sending off their loved one (maybe not, if they believed the bullshit, depends, sounds like they are suckers, but that doesn't mean that ANYONE should DIE)..

But HOW can THEY THINK THEY have the right to tell everyone ELSE TO DIE?

THis just kills me.. Bush isn't bad enough, we have THESE people taking lives besides their own loved ones..

Grow a BRAIN you idiots, honestly, if they needed kleenex why didn't they just pull some out of their noses since it would appear that their heads may just as well be Packed with Kleenex, or cotton..

Swine.