What the hell happened to Bartcop? Why's he gone gaga for Clinton?

[Bucky]

Is my one-time hero Bartcop under some kind of hypnosis?

He used to be a hammer against Republican idiocy. He's still got the old voice and the Republicans are still giving him excellent comedy material to work with. But for the past few months he's been so slavishly flogging away about how Hillary is our only chance to win, it's starting to sound like a mental disorder. When he speaks about her, he writes in bold about The Hillary Juggernaut.

Bart's making the freakiest excuses for Senator Clinton. I know I'm in the minority around here in thinking she was right on the video game violence issue. But I think almost all DUers are appalled by her sponsoring legislation geared at giving this new Supreme Court a chance to support a flag burning ban. What does Bart say about this travesty? "I never said she was perfect."

Unfortunately that's exactly what Bart's been saying. When she doesn't speak out against the war, he nicknames her "Can't Speak Yet" Hillary. Then he writes stuff like "do we want to punish Hillary (and America) because some differ on her anti-war timing?" Bart, my problem with Clinton isn't her anti-war timing, it's her lack of anti-war courage. I tend to agree with the point that pulling out right now would be a bigger humanitarian disaster than even the 2003 invasion was. I fear the resulting bloodbath would be ungodly. But that doesn't let a politician off the hook for failing to constantly reiterate what a huge mistake it was to go in in the first place. She's either lying about it, lacking the moral courage to speak the truth, or she really believes going into Iraq was the right thing to do. I find neither position presidential, but at least the second one is honest.

Instead, Bart is supportive of Mrs Clinton when she says only that the war is being "mismanaged," which is kinda like saying the Titanic's captain needs to rebutton his jacket. Senator Clinton's waffling on the war is the same mealy-mouthed responsibility-dodging that Bart used to cite while slapping pink tu-tus onto other Democratic senators. But Clinton gets a free pass? Pu-lease! Bartcop this week is actually questioning whether the Code Pink ladies aren't secretly a front organization for the Republicans because they're dogging Clinton around New York due to her rejecting a timetable for withdrawing from Iraq.

Code Pink a front for the Republicans? Come on, Bart, Tulsa ain't that far from civilization! A Code Pinker went to jail here in Houston for crashing in on Dick Cheney's little fundraiser for DeLay this Monday. They're standing up. Mrs Clinton is selling out, issue by issue, in some of the most naked pandering I've seen since, well, since McCain got his Bush hug.

Don't get me wrong: I'm no Hillary basher. If she's nominated I'll work my ass off for her right up to the night all the network talking heads start wondering what role Vice President-elect Rice will play in President Jeb's administration. I don't question the sincerity of someone supporting Mrs Clinton's candidacy. My concern is when a man of character, vision, and cajones undergoes a complete personality reversal and starts betraying his own standards to back a mediocre candidate who either won't speak her own mind or has a mind indistiguishable from John McCain's.

[KharmaTrain]

1. Give Bart Some Slack...

He's tired of losing elections and looking weak. He's tired of the pink tutus that have turned the Democrats into spineless losers and he thinks Hillary is the person who represents the strength and experience that will be required of whomever has to clean up booosh's massive messes.

While I don't agree with Bart...I am totally and blissfully non-committal and will remain that way through 2008...he's taking a lot of flack for saying what he thinks...fighting what I think are silly and useless games when we're so far away from an election. In fact, I think it's liberating that there's not one big Democrat speaking out right now...it gives many new voices within the party a chance to get up and speak out...and I suspect we'll be seeing that over the next couple elections.

So much of the sniping that goes on makes so little sense as there's so many changes that can and will happen between 2008. Yes, Hillary isn't 100% with my views of this invasion, but I can't think of any politician that is...and to use the paraphrase Groucho..."i wouldn't vote for any party that had me as a candidate". Viva la differences...isn't that what a real political party is about? Or should we be a leftist mirror image of the Repugnicans?

[stevedeshazer]

2. It's a curious phenomenon

I am a longtime Bartcop reader, and his fascination with Hillary baffles me even more than his fascination with Shirley.

It's really out of character.

[NNN0LHI]

3. First of all Bartcop is no dove. He might even be considered a hawk?

I think Hillary is the same way and he admires that.

Don

[T Town Jake]

4. He likes to win.

Don't get me wrong, incessant bitching on an internet forum has it's charms. But some of us, heretics no doubt, yearn for the Clinton years. Were they perfect? No. But they were a hell of a lot better than what's been on display for the last five years.

Quixotic longing for a "perfect" progressive candidate in '08 will do nothing more than give the GOP another four year lock on the Oval Office.

I'll now return this thread to it's regularly scheduled Clinton-bashing...

[Sapphocrat]

5. Do you suppose...

...the whole thing could be a misfired attempt at reverse psychology? Even satire? :shrug:

[Bucky]

6. Yeh, I thought of that. But he's usually not that subtle.

His jokes are not that hard to get. I think he's flipped his lid, frankly.

[NoPasaran]

7. A little too much chinaco anejo?

I agree, some of the contortions he's going through to justify his support for HRC are painful to read.