Will they explode? Repubs caught paying themselves with TAXPAYER money

[jsamuel]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5596046
Cunningham scandal meet DeLay scandal (wch met Abramoff wch met Coingate)


They aren't taking the money from companies or liberals, but from TAXPAYERS.


Now you can't tell me that isn't the best way to shake up the Repub base:

Massive numbers of Repubs caught paying themselves with TAXPAYER money. YOUR MONEY. THAT YOU EARNED. WITH YOUR JOB. IN THEIR POCKETS!

[CAG]

1. They'll just say that "democrats do it too"; I heard that over and over

again as their justification for their Dukester. Of course, any examples they bring up is a few thousand here and there onto their campaign funds, NOT 2.4 MILLION TO THEIR OWN BANK ACCOUNT!!!!

[jsamuel]

2. that is one defense, but I think this FRAMES the issue the right way

something one of our Dems has been saying

[No Exit]

4. But you know what's funny about when "democrats do it"?

I mean, some would say LBJ "did it", when he started his Great Society stuff. "He's taking our tax money and giving it to people who sit around on welfare and never do any work!"

Yeah, okay. But the funny thing is, when "the democrats do it", sometimes SOMEBODY BESIDES THE FILTHY RICH ACTUALLY GET TO RECEIVE A FEW DOLLARS OF IT.

Okay, so let me see... since they're "all" bound set and determined to "give my tax money to someone else", do I want them to give it to some guy in the projects, or do I want them to give it to some bastard who's already got billions or trillions? Well, let me see... which of those two guys would be satisfied with taking LESS??

I vote for the guy in the projects. I don't even care if that guy would hold me up when I walked down his street... know why? Because the rich guy would TAKE MY KIDS AND SEND THEM TO DIE AND THEN LIE ABOUT IT.

[we can do it]

12. I Heard That One Already

I think they are hopeless.

[No Exit]

3. "BEYOND KICKBACKS"

Everyone's heard of kickbacks: a politician sends some of his government's business to one of the businessmen who helped him get elected. The government cuts the businessman a check. The businessman makes money, and kicks back some of what he got paid... back to his friend, the politician.

We then get to see amazing things, such as guys with incomes of, oh, say, $175,000/year, and they are buying things like multiple million-dollar homes. (Some of the more naive of us think "wow his wife must make a lot" or "must've inherited a lot from his folks".) We see things like a mayor of a moderate-sized city laying out millions upon millions to get re-elected over and over to a job which maybe pays him $175,000, if that much.

But this... this is so much simpler. I mean, when we used to say "looting the treasury", we didn't actually mean "he went into the vault of the government's money, and took some." We meant something a little more nuanced--like the kickbacks described above. Well, the republicans are so EFFICIENT, you see. Great businessmen, all. And these great businessmen have found out that the most efficient way to get that money is to JUST TAKE IT. Just take it straight out of the vault. No middleman! Wow, isn't it great that we've got these pennywise FISCAL CONSERVATIVES doing us the great favor of stewarding our public funds.

[jsamuel]

5. yeah, they just don't seem to even try to hide it anymore

[No Exit]

6. Why should they?

Take Bush, for example. Why should he hide anything? And why would he care that his approval rating is in the toilet? He needn't run for office again. An actual human being would at least be polite enough to pretend he cared... but Bush is not at that level.

I used to post on a board that leaned toward the wingnut side. There were, however, a lot of people on it who were disenchanted with both parties. All these people were avidly pushing their favorite third-party candidates. (Various ones... never Nader, though... usually Constitution party.)

They already knew I hated Bush. I told them I was voting for Kerry, and they scoffed. "Same as voting for Bush!" they said.

We know that wasn't true. I defended Kerry, but in order to try to persuade them, sometimes I'd tell them that I was voting for Kerry above all b/c he would be a "first-termer". I figured that would be more persuasive than just singing the praises of the democratic party, which these former Bush supporters couldn't wrap themselves around.

It was, in a sense, part of the reason I backed Kerry: Kerry would be beginning to run for re-election about now. He would actually have to LISTEN TO US VOTERS about now.

These repuke assholes don't think they have to worry about re-election. The Abramoff-DeLay scandals (and their effect on the smooth repukelican money machine) haven't hit home just yet. And the implosion of their own personal voting machine company, Diebold, seems only to have begun recently.

They honestly DON'T CARE WHAT WE THINK.

I am waiting with bated breath to see if we can really go full-force into the 2006 elections with crippled "computer voting" (read: crippled vote-stealing system), and, I fervently hope, most of these big scandals still fresh in everyone's mind. I live for the day when these bastards wake up to find that their secure congressional seats are surrounded by 10-foot floodwaters, and they have to paint a crude sign on a piece of cardboard that says "PLEASE RESCUE ME", and not one helicopter stops to pick them up. And they drown. And sink to the bottom forever.

[Kurovski]

7. They'll explode with delight that their base won't give a shit.

I can hear them now "Oh, that's just the liberal media"..."Oh, quit getting your news off the internet"..."So? They are worth it! Do you want to give my money to drug-addict welfare queens in Cadillacs?"

Of course the non-idiots amoung them will think twice about the theft of taxpayers.

[unblock]

8. "it's your money"

[proud patriot]

15. "give tax money back to the people"

[salin]

9. Slush fund politics

we won't talk with you - unless you give money to us and employ "our people" (former staffers)...

when we talk with you - IF you give us enough, we will give you government contracts (tax payer dollars) - but to get the next installment... er... contract, you have to immediately upon reciept give more money to us.

If you can pool enough $ on a regular enough basis then we will let representatives of your company write major legislation (only to be inserted at the last minute... say in conference committee... so no one notices the tax breaks and earmarked contracts within).

To those who say "everyone does it" - ask them to point out a parallel dem structure to the K-Street Project? Ask them to point out parallel examples of industry written legislation to that of the medicare prescription plan, the energy bill, and the bankruptcy bill. Ask them to then show a similar flow of money .... political contribution - to specific govt contract (direct payment of taxpayer $s) - followed by more "diversified" political contributions (that is now to spec. congressmen, but in addition also to those congressmen's pacs, favorite foundations and other vehicles that give payments either to the politician or some family member of the politician.)

[Vinca]

10. When the felons are in charge of the prison, anything goes.

The Republicans figure they hold every branch of government and can pillage at will without anyone bothering them. Here's a news flash for them: it's FITZMAS!

[notadmblnd]

11. I was thinking about this last night

start a company, have you a friendly politician that will throw you a few governemet contracts courtesy of the US taxpayer, never fulfull the obligations of the contract and split the taxpayers money between yourself and the politician. company files bankruptcy and the politician retires.

quite a racket isn't it? anD we all thought welfare mothers had it good.

[jsamuel]

14. simple as that... that would explain all the "failure" of this admin

[eppur_se_muova]

13. Vote base=fundamentalists; Funding base=slush fundamentalists