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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:38 PM
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The Democrats should offer an amendment to Davis' Christmas resolution
The Democrats should call Davis' bluff. Here is the text of her proposed resolution calling for the "protection" of Christmas. The upper case text is the language that I think a Democrat should offer to the resolution.

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Whereas Christmas is a national holiday celebrated on December 25 AND HANUKAH AND KWANZAA ARE HOLIDAYS CELEBRATED BY MILLIONS OF AMERICANS; and

Whereas the Framers intended that the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States would prohibit the establishment of religion, not prohibit any mention of religion or reference to God in civic dialog: Now, therefore, be it


Resolved, That the House of Representatives--
(1) recognizes the importance of the symbols and traditions of Christmas, HANUKAH, AND KWANZAA ;
(2) strongly disapproves of attempts to ban references to Christmas, HANUKAH, AND KWANZAA ; and
(3) expresses support for the use of these symbols and traditions.
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HillDem Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:46 PM
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1. Anthony Weiner tried that
and Davis rudely rebuffed him.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:53 PM
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2. point 3 is a direct violation of the first amendment
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:00 PM
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3. "Congress shalll make NO law regarding the establishment of religion.."
As in none, not any, zero. It's like "prayer in school". If people want to pray, celebrate Xmas, or burn incense to their refrigerator, there's nothing to prevent them from doing so. As long as doing so doesn't fall under the establishment clause.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 06:03 PM
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4. I'm Sorry But
there should not be any resolution of this type in the Congress. What a waste of time and taxpayers' money. Congress should be dealing with real issues not bogus ones. A Congresswoman from CA basically said that. Changing her resolution gives it legitimacy. I just don't believe it should be taken seriously.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 06:08 PM
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5. in a perfect world, you're right
but we live in a political world -- a highly charged political world. Voting against the resolution is certainly the right thing to do, but explaining that vote is harder than the other side simply saying "he/she voted against protecting Christmas". So given the political reality, I'd rather put the shoe on the repubs foot and have them explain why they won't support a resolution to protect Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa or Ramadan. Once they reject that (as they did), then defending opposition becomes much simpler -- if the repubs accuse Democrats of not wanting to protect Christmas, a Democrat can respond that he/she wanted to protect not only Christmas but other symbols of other holidays, but the repubs opposed that.

The idea of the amendment isn't for it to pass, its for it to be proposed so the repubs take the bait by refusing..which apparently is exactly what happened.

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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:23 PM
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6. We Don't Live in a Perfect World!
And you are probably going to tell me there is no tooth fairy! What am I going to do???
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