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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 04:05 AM
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sickening, just sickening
http://www.why-war.com/news/2003/01/17/bosshogt.html

kinda off point butwhy are the police considered a protected class?
they know the risks, thats why they carry guns.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 04:23 AM
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1. The writing is on the wall in the U.S.A.

Truly sickening.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 04:50 AM
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2. Police State
I guess the example above is why I'm such an absolutist on gun rights and free speech. We effectively live in a police state now. If you believe that our own law enforcement officers will not follow orders and use lethal force to quell legitimate dissent you are mistaken. With Dubya's "if you ain't with me, yer with Osama" mentality catching on, there are many in all levels of law enforcement who've had their existing "us vs. them" culture encoraged and amplified. I believe we are going to see more incidents replicated and barely reported.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 05:25 AM
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3. This isn't sickening...
this is scary!!

This is the very reason people should join up with fellow citizens fighting for the repeal of the USA Patriot Act.

www.bordc.org (Bill of Rights Defence Committee- with links to meetings in your area)

Get involved before the option is taken away from you and we live in a police state.

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:12 AM
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4. If we can have a Cuba we can do this.
People wake up when it happens to them.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:55 AM
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5. One of the more frightening statements...
from a cop, "We're just following orders". Where have we heard that before?

It was not accepted as an excuse at Nuremburg, and it will not be acceptable as an excuse here. Every citizen, whether civilian, police, military, gov't; has not only the right, but also the obligation to question dubious "orders". If we allow ourselve to blindly follow authority, we will wind up no better than those states that are despised by the RW, Totalitarian regimes without a voice.

The problem is, people are not brave enough, nor educated enough to question authority. I noticed in the article, that each time a question was asked, the police backed down a bit. This shoiws me that even they questioned what the Chief was ordering. Ramsey should be fired, and those that were overzealous in prosecuting the arrests, should be sent to the netherworld of walking police beats far away from contact with people.

Live Free, or Die!

:kick:
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 09:27 AM
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6. Yes, Williams and Ramsay should both be sacked
Another similar account, but of Seattle, is Paul Hawken's, if you haven't read it. (Hawken founded Erehwon Natural Foods and then Smith & Hawken tools. He's a millionaire, leftist, pro-environment entrepreneur and economic theorist. A very, very smart man.)

http://www.thomhartmann.com/hawken.shtml
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:00 AM
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7. April 2000, DC
BTW, An ACLU lawyer told me that it was becoming standard procedure to allot money ahead of time for law suits, so preemptive arrests and violations of civil rights could proceed as planned.

---
www.prorev.com/psa16.htm
From charges filed in law suit by Partnership for Civil Justice against DC police and federal authorities for their handling of the April 2000 demonstrations in Washington
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 10:04 AM
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8. I am locking this thread.
The thread title is not descriptive at all. You are free to re-post with a more relevant thread title.

Thank you.

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