Say It: This Is a Quagmire - By Tom Hayden, AlterNet

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http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16336

On the day U.S. soldiers occupied Baghdad, draped the American flag over Saddam Hussein's statue and pulled it down, 103 GIs had died in the Iraq war. The number killed since that supposedly triumphal moment on April 9 may double in this coming week, in a war that an American general now admits is ongoing.

The total number of American soldiers killed since the toppling of Saddam's statue is 93 by July 4, including the nine Americans killed in the bombing in Saudi Arabia. That makes a total of 196 dead so far, not including the six British soldiers killed last month.

The media is being forced to recognize this reality, but continues to minimize the numbers. Using the definition "killed in hostile encounters" and May 1 as the date when President Bush declared the cessation of hostilities, the reported death toll is lowered to "about 24" Americans, according to the New York Times front-page spin based on figures from Paul Bremer III. (NYT, July 4). The official non-fatal casualty number acknowledged since May 1 is 177 Americans. Most of the dead and wounded are grunts, "low-ranking ground troops who are performing mundane activities like buying a video, going out on patrol, or guarding a trash pit."

The manipulation of the American body count, like the earlier manipulation of the costs of war and occupation, only feeds the growing anger among military personnel and their families, as cited in the New York Times. During the Vietnam war, troop demoralization rose as Americans continued to die while President Nixon promised that the war was winding down. A similar phenomenon appears to be happening already in the 115-degree temperatures of occupied Iraq. No one wants to sacrifice his life for President Bush after he's held an aircraft-carrier press conference declaring "mission accomplished." No family wants the death of a son or daughter minimized to airbrush the President's victory image.

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[caledesi]

1. Excellent article. This says it all. The big "Q"

Quagmire.

[OrdinaryTa]

2. Demoralized Troops

During the Vietnam war, troop demoralization rose as Americans continued to die while President Nixon promised that the war was winding down

There's a substantial difference between unhappy troops and demoralized troops. One important function of basic training is to put troops under stress to teach them that warfare is uncomfortable. But demoralization is something different - it causes the troops to be ineffective. Discipline breaks down, soldiers fight among themselves and refuse to obey orders, or they become deserters. In Vietnam they became drug abusers as well. Low morale forced Nixon to get serious about winding down the war, but it was more than that the troops were unhappy. That didn't bother him at all.

[ward919]

3. Do you think Bush will preside over the first military coup in US history?

It's stuff like this that revolutions are made of. If the flower children had not been "mellowed out" on pot, and respected our soldiers it might have happened in the 60's.

[Walt Starr]

4. Quaghdad, Iraqnam

And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damn.
Next stop it's IRAQNAM!

[TahitiNut]

5. "Saddam Hussein City"??

How long before we change maps of Iraq? :eyes: