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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 07:41 PM
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Different Clark/Dean or Dean/Clark Question
How do you think the public would react if two of the candidates, say Clark and Dean, got together and decided between themselves that one of them would announce that he would fogo the race for the nomination but that he and the other would run as a team and that if elected he would serve as Vice President. So by their own agreement they would say, if you vote for Clark in the primary and he wins then you have voted for a Clark-Dean ticket because that is prearanged and we are notifying you of it now.

Do you think this prepairing might bring out a lot more votes, maybe even more than the combined total of supporters for each before the announcement? Is there anything that might stop two candidates from doing that?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 07:49 PM
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1. If Clark foregoes the nomination
and gives his full support to Dean, then I'm all for it. Clark just isn't ready yet. I will support Clark as Dean's VP since they need each other on most issues.

Hawkeye-X
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 07:55 PM
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2. Hawkeye, Hawkeye
No, please no. Clark is a disaster of a candidate -- so bad that I'm glad Dean has subtly distanced himself from him. There are so many skeletons in that footlocker it's not even funny.

Just having worked for Jackson Stephens is plenty ENOUGH for me.

Eloriel
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:00 PM
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5. Dean needs Clark more than Clark needs Dean
But I will let them decide what they will do and who will pick who. And if either is a winner and pick someone else...that's fine too.

After all, I pretty much powerless about the situation anyway!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:03 PM
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7. What does Dean need clark for?
A uniform w/shiny medals? clark has nothing that Dean needs. It's the other way round.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:42 PM
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10. Electoral votes...southern states.
We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+
We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+
We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+
We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+
We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+
We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+
We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+

I love Clark

I love Dean

We can't lost this one....we gotta win the electoral college...270+

Please, please, please, see the light.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:46 PM
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11. What light?
I only see darkness around clark.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:48 PM
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12. Well then...
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 09:53 PM by familydoctor
watch his New American Progress Speech...

and if you can't honestly say that he didn't move you at least
an inch....

I will donate $25 toward a candidate of your choice.

Please Pastiche, I can sense your passion... but Clark is
on the of the virtue. He carries a sword for those who
want to set the path right.

He wants to heal our country.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:08 PM
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14. I have no way of watching his speech
But it would not move me at all.

He is the opposite of what I strive for, which is PEACE. I've had more then enough violence in my life. There's no way in hell that I would encourage more.

Wesley "Already the scent of victory is in the air" clark, is not a man of peace.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 03:58 AM
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21. I reallly wish I could understand your hatred of the man
I just don't get it...
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:56 PM
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19. I'm a Deanie who respects the Hell outa Clark
An Officer and a Gentleman:

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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:54 PM
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13. Yes, Clark isn't ready.
He's the one who made foolish comments about Israel; he's the one who foolishly called Democratic Congresspeople 'cockroaches;' he's the one who idiotically called for a full reversal of Bush's tax cuts, setting himself up to get crushed in a general election; he's the one whose campaign symbol is becoming the waffle; he's the one whose prior experience was governing a state with a population about 1/6 the size of the city I live in.

At least one of the candidates isn't ready for the big leagues, but I don't think it's Clark.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:10 PM
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3. If they got together and decided it's time...
to put this one away and can Bush...


I am all for it.

Clark/Dean

Dean/Clark


It doesn't matter.

16 years of ass kicking is what I am about.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:52 PM
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4. I agree, either ticket
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 08:53 PM by Rowdyboy
has the potential to put us back on top. Clark is my main man, but Dean is a close second (in spite of some of his supporters who trash Clark at every opportunity)

The combined outreach of these guys could be really powerful.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:38 PM
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9. A bird in the hand...
is better than 2 in the Bush!!!!!
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:02 PM
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20. 16 years...
Hell, that's enough peace and prosperity for almost a generation of people to raise their kids and get a damn good handle on their college educations!

The Warrior and the Healer: the Perfect Storm.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:01 PM
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6. I Think It's Already Decided Between These Two.
The Doctor and the General.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:49 PM
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16. WP: Clark not ruling out VP slot
Reprint from the Washington Post:

http://www.issues2000.org/2004/Wesley_Clark_Principles_+_Values.htm

Clark said that as recently as last week, former president Bill Clinton and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) both encouraged him to run, as did many of their close friends. He said the former president initially was cool to the idea but warmed to it as the draft-Clark movement grew. Clark said he never discussed running with Sen. Clinton on the same ticket, however. Clark, who discussed the vice presidency with Dean at a recent meeting, said he would not rule out taking the No. 2 slot on a ticket.

-- Source: Jim VandeHei, Washington Post, p. A5 Sep 19, 2003

==================

For the record, I could live with a Clark/Dean ticket, too. Either way, it the perfect storm: Warrior & Healer.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:54 PM
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17. But Dean
has not said the same.

From the Dean emails I received after the media speculation of clark as vp, it was given a :thumbsdown:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:55 PM
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18. I have no problem with that...
My preference is Clark/Dean but I'd crawl a mile over broken glass to vote Dean/Clark or Kerry/Edwards or Gephart/Kucinich..We must rid our nation of the "prostate cancer" that is GWB.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:26 PM
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8. From what I've heard...
Any arrangement of this nature is strickly against the law.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:16 PM
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15. No Different Than Clinton Running Again With Gore.
Or Carter running again in 1980 with Mondale planned to stay on as VP even though Kennedy was challenging him.
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