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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:38 AM
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Is the US Planning for "Global Union" by way of terror and financial fall?
For those that are in the LIHOP/MIHOP camps ... of which I am one...you have to ask yourself another question...what is the purpose?

Others feel that PNAC is the driving agenda and indeed it could be. I would like to raise the thought that is more layered in it's approach with the end state being "global union" of all countries.

Why Global Union?

1) If you are of the understanding that corporations and the global elite basically run the world...own our politicians ... own our media etc.... we aren't that far away.

2) Global Union allows "those" more control. Call it Global Patriot Act etc.... one global army...with global spies...global currency...global energy resources ...etc.


3) Natural resources (oil) have seen their peak in production and there are plenty of guesstimates for depletion (20-30 years). Either you have less people or allocate resources among countries or "chosen few".


The globalists and corporation know this is coming...how do they create such a global union with DISPARITE POWER IN THE WORLD TODAY?

You create an invisible evil that everyone must FEAR....that we all must FIGHT...where we all are open to downfall....the "trojan horse" for global union is "GLOBAL TERROR"

The US would never agree to this idea. We are a strong and independent country...sure we need oil and trade like all countries...but we feel "above the rest". But over the years look at what has happened:

* Our "investment nest eggs" have fallen with the "stock market bubble".

* Our US dollar is at multi-year lows and falling with much greater downside. Gold has been rising for 2+ years.

* Our trade deficit and federal deficit is out of hand. Over $1.5B needed a day to fund our debt. And foreigners are concerned about the US

* Our manufacturing has moved and continues to move away to cheap labor countries.

* Our health and social safety nets our very much a concern. Social Security and medicare and going away over time. 35 million americans with no helth insurance and more.

* You can fill in the rest......

This has been a process ...more than a decade of planning to bring the US to the same level as other "weaker countries". You saw the Tommy Franks article. All it would take is another attack and there is a thought where there is a need for a "military form of government"...and away with the constitution.

With another "terra attack" many in America would subscribe to a :

* we need need to come together to fight this terra and be open to "new global social safety nets"..."global resources"..."global etc..."


My hope is I am wrong. But I do feel that shrub is a puppet doing his job for those calling the shots...for those not wanting 911 investigated...for those who control our monetary and fiscal policy. The reality is that the next terror attack will be THE FAULT FOR THE NEXT MAJOR MARKET DECLINE and fall of the US Dollar to such levels that our economy will face larger unemployment levels and worse.

Your thoughts?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:46 AM
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1. Engineered Extinction (another view)
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 10:46 AM by cthrumatrix
Vol. 19, No. 24
December 1, 2003
Table of Contents More on Jobs


Engineered Extinction
by William F. Jasper

Government policies threaten our jobs, economy and national security by destroying America’s basic resource industries — mining, forestry, farming and ranching.

Imagine an America of closed factories, shuttered offices, and millions of unemployed blue-collar and white-collar workers. Imagine a United States of America that is no longer the leader in any major industrial or technological sector — a U.S. of A. that is dangerously dependent on foreign suppliers for many of its critical military supplies and weapons components. Imagine an America that depends on foreign producers not only for virtually all consumer goods but even for basic foodstuffs. Imagine an America that is no longer a land of optimism and opportunity for our younger generations because it has ceased to be competitive globally and has regulated jobs, careers and entrepreneurial activities into oblivion. Imagine a rusting and decrepit America that can no longer economically support its aging population. Imagine a dependent America with supplies of food, oil and other essentials interrupted by war or terrorism. Imagine regular electrical blackouts and brownouts similar to those that afflict developing countries.

Not a pretty picture. But, unfortunately, the above imaginings are gradually becoming reality. We are witnessing the piecemeal economic destruction of the wealthiest, most dynamic economic powerhouse in human history. The American economy is dying, but not from natural causes. It is being strangled to death in a coordinated pincer attack. America’s ability to survive, produce and prosper is being systematically destroyed by socialistic taxes and regulations that make U.S. production of virtually everything increasingly uneconomical. Simultaneously, the same legislators and government officials who are impeding American producers are opening the floodgates to cheap foreign goods that are not burdened with the same debilitating taxes, regulations and mandates.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2003/12-01-2003/jobs.htm
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rapier Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:17 PM
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4. BS
What a load of stool.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:00 AM
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2. These guys are trying the phrase Global Union
because so many people got scared when poppa Bush coined the phrase New World Order...
it don't matter what you call it, it is PNAC plain and simple.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:09 AM
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3. Britain in secret EU army deal (slowly coming together)
Britain in secret EU army deal

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Naples
(Filed: 29/11/2003)

Britain has taken a dramatic step towards a fully-fledged European army, signing up to Franco-German proposals for a planning headquarters outside Nato, it emerged yesterday.



The deal reached by British, German and French officials in secret talks in Berlin this week establishes an "operational" command in Brussels, allowing the EU to run day-to-day battlefield missions for the first time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/29/weu29.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/11/29/ixportaltop.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=149105
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