Democratic Presidential Primary Poll (December 8, 2003)

[Skinner]

Poll question: Democratic Presidential Primary Poll (December 8, 2003)

Poll cancelled.

[Skinner]

1. For comparison, here are earlier polls...

October 15:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=537909

July 7:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2460

[goobergunch]

2. Dean (n/t)

[_NorCal_D_]

3. Clark!

B-)

[joefree1]

4. Molly Ivins supports Dean, me too

My fellow Dems, I think we have got ourselves a winner
By Molly Ivins
FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM

AUSTIN, Texas -- No one has been waiting with bated breath for me to make up my mind about the Democratic presidential candidates, but I have, and you might be interested in how I got there. I'm for Howard Dean -- because he's going to win.
It is the bounden duty of bleeding-heart liberals like myself to make our political choices based on purity of heart, nobility of character, depth of compassion, sterling integrity and generosity of spirit. The concept of actually winning a political race does not, traditionally, influence the bleeding heart liberal one iota -- certainly not in the primaries.
Edit ...
Dean gives a hell of a speech -- even if you're Republican, you should go and hear him just for the experience. But I fretted about Dean on TV -- TV is so important. How could anyone poker up on Margaret Carlson of PBS, not one of the world's toughest interviewers? But then I saw Dean laugh his way through a Chris Matthews interview (which he should have done with Tim Russert, who was hell-bent on gotcha questions), and I know the guy can take care of himself. So he fights back if you get in his face -- that's not all bad.
I know, he's even less of a liberal than Bill Clinton was, but I don't think Dean is a moderate centrist. I think he's a fighting centrist. And folks, I think we have got ourselves a winner here.
More ...
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Dec/12082003/commenta/117981.asp

[robbedvoter]

22. Molly Ivins supported Nader. Canpaign finance reform too. Go figure...

[The_Counsel]

5. I Voted for Dean. Again.

I do find it interesting that there are so many Dean bashers here at DU, and yet he wins poll after poll here... :evilgrin:

[Mountainman]

8. I haven't bashed Dean and I like Clark

If Dean can beat Bush, then we all win. But I think Clark has the better chance at beating Bush because of his ability to bring in more independents and repubs into his camp.

Dean's following is not big enough to win I think and the right can use all the dirty tricks on him that they did on Gore but Clark stands up and tells them "no sir!" like he did to the jerk on Faux. Dean cannot do that.

[meow mix]

10. omg

what DU are u loggin into? i havent seen that.

1 vote for clark plz!

[superflippy]

28. It's his niche

The reason Dean wins so many polls here is the same reason Kucinich and Clark are so high in the polls here: Their initial support grew via online efforts, so their supporters are the most likely to vote in online polls. If you did a pencil and paper poll via a newspaper, for example, you'd probably get a different distribution of votes.

[newyawker99]

41. Hi superflippy!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[unfrigginreal]

6. I wish this thread would show up under announcements

There are some DU'ers that either don't participate in GD or they only participate through the Latest page.

[JohnLocke]

7. Edwards

Great idea for a pinned post :yourock:

[RogueTrooper]

9. Dean

of course ;-)

[TakebackAmerica]

12. Clark

:kick: for Dean, Kucinich, Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, Braun and Sharpton.

No kick for Joe Loserman.

[K-W]

11. Clark

Gep is my favorite, but I dont think he would win a primary today, so I vote Clark because he is a better candidate for the general election than Dean.

[TakebackAmerica]

13. My Prediction:

Dean: 35
Clark: 26
Kucinich: 23

84% is for Dean, Clark and Kucinich

[RWPTRBL]

14. Clark all the way!!!

[Richardo]

15. Looks a lot like the October poll so far...

Verry Eenteresting...

[geniph]

16. Where's the option for A.B.B.?

Anybody But Bush!!!

but in the primary (which our state will not have this year, so I'm going to the caucuses), I'm down the drain with Dennis all the way!

[goobergunch]

17. As of 2:47 PM EST

185 votes cast
Howard Dean (69 votes, 37%)
Wesley Clark (49 votes, 26%)
Dennis Kucinich (37 votes, 20%)
John Edwards (13 votes, 7%)
John Kerry (10 votes, 5%)
Carol Moseley Braun (1 vote, 1%)
Dick Gephardt (0 votes, 0%)
Joe Lieberman (0 votes, 0%)
Al Sharpton (0 votes, 0%)
Don't Know, Undecided, Other (6 votes, 3%)

EDIT: Added Time Zone

[lpbk2713]

18. Gen Clark

With all due respect to the other Dem candidates.

[meow mix]

19. clarks vampires

they cant vote till after sunset =)

[robbedvoter]

24. Cuz - they have jobs?

I was wondering where the first snide remark will come in a poll. Deanie, non?

[Sarge]

20. General Clark is my man

I am voting for the General!

Wesley Clark :yourock:

[TakebackAmerica]

21. Clark is making progress.

Earlier:

Dean 40
Clark 24

Now:

Dean 37
Clark 29


Update:

Dean 35
Clark 30

Update 2:

Dean 35
Clark 31

Update 3:

Dean 34
Clark 32

Update 4:

Wesley Clark (73 votes, 32%)
Howard Dean (76 votes, 34%)

Update 5:
Wesley Clark (80 votes, 34%)
Howard Dean (78 votes, 33%)

[robbedvoter]

23. Clark's the man!

He's running for president, and he is not used to losing.  And if he gets the nomination, he'll go up and down this country and beat on President Bush like a drum.  He'll do 2,000 yards every morning; he'll rappel down any cliff he needs to; he will shake off any small-arms fire as if it were a swarm of gnats.  And he'll get better at the game each and every day.
He hates to lose.  And he doesn't run from fights.
And even if he's never played the game, he's never a beginner at anything.
Dismissed."
****

[TakebackAmerica]

The October and Decrmber polls are nearly identical!

Democratic Presidential Primary Poll (October 15, 2003)

Poll result (821 votes)
Wesley Clark (243 votes, 30%)
Howard Dean (304 votes, 37%)

Democratic Presidential Primary Poll (December 8, 2003)
Poll result (205 votes)
Wesley Clark (62 votes, 30%)
Howard Dean (74 votes, 36%)

[meow mix]

25. cue the music from "Jaws"

clark begins the hunt.

du du.. du du Du DU du du..

[mdmc]

26. Kucinich

:dem:

[DemExpat]

27. He moved in fast........

:kick:

DemEx

[TakebackAmerica]

29. oh yah!

Earlier:

Dean: 40
Clark; 24

Now:

Poll result (236 votes)
Wesley Clark (80 votes, 34%)
Howard Dean (78 votes, 33%)

[Crewleader]

31. Yes! Because...He Is

A Soldier Of The People!
And will get the full support from a wide-range of Americans who are sick of Bush destroying Our Country!


Go Clark!!!:yourock:

[goobergunch]

30. As of 3:36 PM EST

237 votes cast
Wesley Clark (81 votes, 34%)
Howard Dean (78 votes, 33%)
Dennis Kucinich (42 votes, 18%)
John Edwards (15 votes, 6%)
John Kerry (13 votes, 5%)
Carol Moseley Braun (2 votes, 1%)
Dick Gephardt (0 votes, 0%)
Joe Lieberman (0 votes, 0%)
Al Sharpton (0 votes, 0%)
Don't Know, Undecided, Other (6 votes, 3%)

Rate of Total Increase: 1.06 votes/minute
Rate of Clark Increase: .65 votes/minute
Rate of Dean Increase: .18 votes/minute
Rate of Kucinich Increase: .10 votes/minute

[TakebackAmerica]

33. I'm impressed.

A+ for math!

Rate of Clark Increase: .65 votes/minute
Rate of Dean Increase: .18 votes/minute
Rate of Kucinich Increase: .10 votes/minute

[goobergunch]

32. Clark is currently increasing at a rate of .65 votes/minute

while Dean is only increasing at a rate of .18 votes/minute. The total poll votes themselves are only increasing at a rate of 1.06 votes/minute. I find this very interesting.

[Tinoire]

44. Start googling. Word of this poll is all over the Clark blogs

Poll on Democratic Underground
By Anne
Posted to Anne's weblog (News and Links) on Mon Dec 8th, 2003 at 03:29:48 PM EST
New poll on Democratic Underground. Please go and vote!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=849826


http://blog.forclark.com/story/2003/12/8/152948/904

http://anne.forclark.com/

[goobergunch]

45. This post in ATA seems to confirm that

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=8279#8280

[Zynx]

34. Dean.

[UrbScotty]

35. 90-89-45 Clark leads!

WHEW!

[FuriousMNDem]

36. I'm Number One!

I'm the first one to pick Gephardt!

:eyes:

[TakebackAmerica]

37. This is how close DU really is.

Wesley Clark (95 votes, 34%)
Howard Dean (94 votes, 34%)

[PatrioticOhioLiberal]

38. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

ELECT ONE

Clark all the way!!! Cause I want to be proud to say "I'm American" again.B-)

[chiburb]

39. Did anyone welcome you to DU yet?

Nice 2nd post by the way...

[Rowdyboy]

40. Wesley Clark: All Patriot, No Act

vote #110 for the next president of the United States

[meow mix]

42. whos gonna star in the movie?

maybe clint eastwood? patrick stewart?

[goobergunch]

43. As of 4:51 PM EST

Poll result (304 votes)
Wesley Clark (113 votes, 37%) Vote
Howard Dean (99 votes, 33%) Vote
John Edwards (17 votes, 6%) Vote
Dick Gephardt (1 votes, 0%) Vote
John Kerry (16 votes, 5%) Vote
Dennis Kucinich (49 votes, 16%) Vote
Joe Lieberman (0 votes, 0%) Vote
Carol Moseley Braun (2 votes, 1%) Vote
Al Sharpton (1 votes, 0%) Vote
Don't Know, Undecided, Other (6 votes, 2%) Vote

[Skinner]

46. I'm shutting this down.

Our server logs indicate that we've had an influx of new registrations from at least one clark website who logged on to vote in the poll.

I want to say welcome to all of you -- I'm impressed by your enthusiasm. I hope you'll stick around. But in the future I'd prefer if you avoided freeping our polls.

I have instructed Elad to program a new function so that this will no longer be possible.