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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:53 PM
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WCVB Poll: Dean Tops In N.H.
BOSTON -- According to an exclusive WCVB poll, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean has a commanding lead over his Democratic rivals in New Hampshire.

NewsCenter 5's Janet Wu reported that Dean enjoys a 29 point lead over his closest competition, John Kerry. The poll was taken after last week's debate, and after the capture of Saddam Hussein.

"He is the only candidate that is dramatically moving. You would think, 'how can he continue to keep going up and up?' His message is still resonating with voters in this state," said University of New Hampshire Survey Center's Andrew Smith. "John Kerry's flat. He is at 17 percent, 16 percent. He has been flat for the last four or five months."

At 46 percent, Dean is just a few points away from the 50 percent cinch-the-election mark. Kerry is stuck in the teens with retired Gen. Wesley Clark and Sen. Joe Lieberman gaining on him.

Breakdown

Dean 46 %
Kerry 17 %
Clark 10 %
Lieberman 7 %
Edwards 4 %
Gephardt 3 %
Kucinish, Mosley Braun, Sharton 3 %
Undecided 11 %

Margin Of Error Plus/Minus 4.6 %

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/2709514/detail.html



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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:58 PM
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1. And yet he would lose to bush by 30 pts with dems ..
crossing over to support bush if Dean is the nominee..

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/nhpoll/nhp45.html
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:02 PM
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2. Here's some later data for you - post Saddam capture
Nationally

Bush 52
Dean 31

Bush 53
Clark 28

NBC/WSJ Poll

So it looks like your argument should be that he gets beat by 21pts. It's still better than getting beat by 25 pts. like Clark.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:03 PM
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3. AND Dean loses to Kerry by 30 pts..................................
Ooops...sorry... that was in January..

Dean '04...The New Democratic Leader of The NEW Democratic Party.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:14 PM
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5. lol
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:16 PM
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6. That's not good
How accurate is THAT poll? It seems to say that an additional 9% of the democratic voters polled would vote for BUSH rather than cast a vote for Dean????

That's just crazy.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:36 PM
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8. Sure he would.
Because Bush is such a STRONG candidate, right?

And because Bush handles people hammering his shitty record so well, right?

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:09 PM
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4. cinch-the-election mark?
He'd better hope so. If Dean goes into the NH primary 28 points ahead, and wins by 10 points or less, he's yesterday's news.

I wasn't aware that any other polls supported this extreme breakthrough. Have I missed something?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:45 PM
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10. And if he wins every other state by 10 points as well? (nm)
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:18 PM
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7. That's great news....
if Clark doesn't break second, then he's not going to get a lot of press coverage in New Hampshire.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:42 PM
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9. Dean has the momentum.
This really is an impressive polling result, but to see Dean leading in the South blows me away.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:47 PM
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11. But he's not electable, remember?
Great news, this poll...

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:48 PM
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12. ooops, he's unelectable in NH!
;-)
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:49 PM
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13. He *IS* Unelectable in NH
Unelectable against Bush, anyway. Or so the latest polls have shown.

It's not exactly news that Dean leads the Democratic field in the NH primary, however.

DTH
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:53 PM
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14. Cool It!
Looks like Dean is peaking to soon, again. lol
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