Sometimes I really dislike weenie-ass people....

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

I have a group of friends and we have varying viewpoints, but about half of us support Kerry and half support bush.

We debate and sometimes it gets heated, but basically at the end of the day, everything is fine.

Well. The bush faction has decided this "divide" between us just stresses them out no end. They want to close the divide and come together and all that shit.

You know what? I don't want or need to. I'm just fine with things the way they are. I don't need to hold hands and sing Kum-bayah with people who are on the oppposite side of the fence from me socio-politically speaking.

What is this insistent need for people to just "smooth things over" and pretend there aren't any differences there when there ARE? Why can't some people just be ok with that?

Odd thing: most of the Kerry faction is fine with things the way they are. We aren't the ones whining about needing to "come together."

[miss_kitty]

1. "They want to close the divide and come together and all that shit."

does that mean they'll all be voting for Kerry then-I mean in the interests of peace of course...on edit: and "smoothing things over"

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

2. LOL!

Riiiight. I actually asked that at one point and they got all huffy like they just smelled something bad. That ended the discussion that time!

I don't know--either they have some kind of pathological discomfort with confrontation or they are afraid their guy is going to lose. Or both.

[miss_kitty]

3. or there is no way they can justify

extending the creeping dictatorship of the cheney-bush junta...

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

4. Yeah

I'm starting to wonder. Our debates are turning into them just flinging insults around about Teresa and we're still trying to have substantive debates!

Then they pull this "oh let's be close and forget all this" bullshit.

No thanks. You are voting for what I consider to be one of the most dangerous, immoral presidents we've EVER had, if not THE most dangerous immoral president we've ever had.

And I'm supposed to just say "hey it's all right! Let's hold hands and sing songs!"

No. No no and no.

[GeorgeBushytail]

5. Their real reason

Your repug friends may want to avoid discuss Bush/Kerry because their man is a disaster. Would you want to defend Bush against intelligent liberals?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

6. HAIL NO!

ROFL! Um, lessee, the Iraq War? Nope, that's a loser of a topic. Ummm, the great economy? Um, no, five of them have been laid off in the last year.

Um............hmmmm.......

:crickets chirping:

[Tangledog]

7. It isn't what it used to be

Even in the Reagan years, and certainly during the Seventies, it was possible to be friends with somebody who was on the opposite side of the spectrum. I think that when you say "the Kerry faction is fine with things the way they are," that's what you mean, that you can agree to disagree on politics, but otherwise still be friends.

Politics has become poisonous and depressing. Gingrich and his coterie deserve much of the blame for making reasonable political discussion a lot more difficult, everywhere. I mean, I hated Nixon and thought he was a psychopath, but I could still get along with his supporters, many of whom got with the program and made it their job to articulate, as best they could, why they supported Nixon.

Now, I automatically mistrust anyone who is too enthusiastic about the current administration, and I hate like hell that it's come to that. It should never have to be that way.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

8. Great post and hear hear

I am too young to have argued about Nixon (born in 70) but I was quite aware enough of Reagan and damn, I don't remember THIS much animosity.

Still--I don't feel this odd need to gloss it over like it doesn't exist. I think they just want to feel better. Not going to give them the pleasure, dammit! LOL!

[Webster Green]

9. "Come Together"....means..........

"Shut the fuck up!"

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

10. EXACTLY

just the fuck what I was trying to say!!!!

Thank you so much, that is EXACTLY what they are trying to say. They are trying to shut us up and shut down debate.

Typical.

[LisaLynne]

11. You're probably getting to them.

Making too many points, showing them with facts and reason that B* sucks. I have a couple of Republican friends left and they just can't talk about it. They have nothing to say. They can't support their position, so they want to avoid it.

It's really sad, though, because there should be differing political views and we should all have good reasons to have them and be able to talk about it. But, right now ... not so much.

And, hey, I was born in 70, too! Woo hoo!