Firefox "Nightmare" for Microsoft

[Jack_Dawson]

As well it should be...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6827283/site/newsweek/

:toast:

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

1. I just changed

and i am so FUCKING HAPPY

Foxfire is AMAZING....although, i am unhappy about how long it takes for picutres to load....but thats a small price to pay for NO popups!

I just wish my office would change now...

[CatWoman]

2. someone posted instructions on how to make pages load faster in Firefox

it was about last month, I think.

Sorry, but I forgot which DUer posted it.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

3. humm...ill have to search for it

thanks for the tip!

on edit: I can't seem to find it yet, but if anyone can help point me in the right direction, id greatly appricate it!

[KitchenWitch]

7. here is the link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=242&topic_id=1052&mesg_id=1052

[mhr]

24. Thanks!

eom

[LDS Jock]

37. wow.. thanks for posting this

I missed it before. It is like a new toy to play with.

[ET Awful]

10. If you find, can you post it here?

I'm looking myself :)

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

27. i found this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=242&topic_id=1052

[ET Awful]

31. Thanks!

It works :)

[KitchenWitch]

5. Look in one of the computer forums

[Maat]

4. I changed a few months ago.

I love it.

[McKenzie]

6. Opera is lightning fast

I'm using Internet Exploiter right now but only coz I just installed a new HDD and am too lazy to find the disk it's stored on and my Linux OS doesn't recognise my $%$£%$^ modem. I'm partisan coz it originated in Europe...Oslo to be precise. Firefox is good but it's a Johnny-come-lately on the speed scene.

Opera comes bundled with links to PGP, Anonymizer etc...Micro$oft would never entertain those proggies.

[Nomad559]

8. Mozilla Firefox Support

http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php

[Nicole]

9. I love Firefox n/t

[miss_kitty]

11. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha

ha!
:7

[Mojambo]

12. Microsoft has run up against a superior product

And they don't know what to do.

[porkrind]

41. Right. They can't buy up Firefox.

:) After using tabbed-browsing and popup blocking, I could never go back to IE. I've been using Mozilla/Firebird/Firefox for years and I love it.

[ashmanonar]

13. i love being a mac user...

:D...i don't have to put up with any of gates' ultra crap...(the only MS program i use is word, and that's for compatibility issues (working on a school intranet, school has a laptop program).

safari is excellent, camino is decent, firefox is pretty damn good, and mozilla itself is pretty damn good too.

[SeanQuinn]

14. Only use Win32 when ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

Period, eom. I use Fedora Core 3 Linux to cover everything else.

[stpalm]

15. type this into your adress bar: "about:mozilla"

[KitchenWitch]

18. holy shit

that is funny!

[DS1]

16. I like this quote

"Microsoft is constrained by its unique responsibility to make sure it works smoothly with all existing Web pages"

Bullshit. Coders are constrained by market share to make sure everything runs with Explorer, Explorer is coded to put up with the sloppiest html possible, it's a vicious circle.

[tridim]

17. It's a nightmare for web developers too

And I don't want to hear the typical W3 standards lecture. Our product uses Windows Media, and it doesn't work on Mozillla at all. All these people switching are causing us major headaches. It's certainly their right, and I'm not totally against it, but as a startup business it's costing my boss money that he doesn't have. Honestly I hope it doesn't get worse.

[Jack_Dawson]

19. So you're "for" IE?

:shrug:

[tridim]

22. No, and I'm not against Firefox either

It's just that when people download a new browser like Firefox and expect our product to just work, it causes some problems.

IMO the benefits of Firefox aren't worth the wholesale switch, although it is a good browser. There's really nothing inherently wrong with IE either if you have a popup blocker installed. Since day one, IE has constantly been the best at displaying pixel perfect HTML and DHTML. I'm a website perfectionist, so that's important to me.

[Solon]

25. Never had a problem with Windows Media on Firefox....

unless embedded, maybe because you are using a closed source file format, that maybe is the real problem. There are alternatives, out there you know.

[tridim]

28. It's embedded and uses custom script commands

Trust me, it only works on IE. It's not the ideal solution, nor is it open source, but it's the only current way to do exactly what we want. I'd love it if Firefox played nicer with windows media and script events. Hopfully they will soon.

[durablend]

40. Java doesn't always work either

Usually it does, but it'll occasionally fall asleep loading or just crash altogether (the broswer will quit functioning and you have to kill the process manually through Task Manager).

[MuseRider]

20. Good.

I adore my Mozilla, switched about a year ago after reading about it here on DU and have never looked back. I disabled my IE and my computer has never run better.

[CarpeVeritas]

21. Mr. Gates now has many many coders working on the problem...

writing viruses for firefox.

[LynneSin]

23. Sworn diehard Opera user here

I was so peeved - I went to Expedia to look up rates for hotels and it wouldn't use my Opera browser

[pinniped]

39. Doesn't Micronut own Expedia?

That would explain it.

I've often found that sites that don't work well with Opera work with Firefox, which is why I run both on my puter.

[frylock]

26. still don't like the way firefox manages my bookmarks..

it just dumps them all in alphabetical order; it doesn't seperate my folders from the links I just drop into Favorites. I use it if I'm *ahem* looking for something over on Astalavista, or song lyrics (for whatever reason, some lyric sites try and install spy/adware), but I still spend the vast majority of my internet time using IE.

As for tabbed browsing: don't use it, can't get used to it. I've been opening links in a seperate window for so many years now, that if I open a link in a new tab, I inevitably close the browser by accident.

[Biased Liberal Media]

29. My Firefox keeps crashing

at least every other day. Anyone have this happen to them and what have you done to stop it??

[OneTwentyoNine]

33. You've got problems elsewhere....

I've never had a crash because of Firefox. Need to do some checking on your system or re-install the OS.

[no name no slogan]

30. Firefox is great, Opera is even better

Opera has been the real trendsetter with standards support, features, etc. Opera has had tabbed browsing for several years, and is still the fastest browser on earth.

However, I still like Firefox, and as a web developer I use Firefox, Opera and even IE in my daily work. IE has been standing still since 5.5-- 2+ years, IIRC, and is getting its lunch eaten in the "browser wars".

[OneTwentyoNine]

32. Aww....dat to bad..

I've been using Firefox for a couple of months,its great! I'm also using the Thunderbird Mail client,I wish they'd go ahead and mesh the two,but its not that big a deal to use it as a stand alone.

IE is an old,clunky security mess. I don't miss it nor will I go back.

David

[TyeDye75]

34. Ive had Firefox about four months now

Its a hell of a lot better. When I did the rounds visiting family for Christmas I downloaded it for all of them too and they've sent me e mails saying how much better it is.

[Allenberg]

35. I've been using FireFox for about 6 months

and I absolutely love it, especially the tabbed browsing.

[slor]

36. I just changed...

and will never go back, I LOVE IT!!!!

[pinniped]

38. The download manager is pretty cool. I don't recall Internut Exploder...

having that feature but they may have since implemented (copied) that into their new crap browser. I dunno because I only use IE for .mht.

Opera has a nice DL manager too.

Well color me irresponsible too.:eyes:

--and for anyone to suggest otherwise is just irresponsible--