Is Tony Blair a woman in drag?

[jos]

That voice! That hair! Could he really be Margaret Thatcher's illegitimate daughter?

I report. You decide.

[maxanne]

1. oh boy

yeah, what could be worse or more insulting than being called a woman. :eyes:

[XanaDUer]

3. I know...

I guess that's about as insulting as it can get...throwing like a girl, being a woman. :eyes:

[kixot]

4. Women wouldn't understand.

Immasculation is one of the highest forms of insult to a man, it strips us of our pride as well as our confidence. If a woman is seen as tough and rugged when compared to men it's a positive quality, even sexy; but what woman wants a girly man who can't stand up for himself? THAT's why it's insulting.

edited for spelling and subject/verb agreement.

[iverglas]

8. duh, and that was all exactly the point

"Immasculation is one of the highest forms of insult to a man, it strips us of our pride as well as our confidence. If a woman is seen as tough and rugged when compared to men it's a positive quality, even sexy; but what woman wants a girly man who can't stand up for himself? THAT's why it's insulting."

Allow us to assure you that it is equally insulting to women to be characterized as someone who "can't stand up for <her>self".

At least, to normal sensible women. Like one might be likely to find around here, and one might consider it advisable to refrain from insulting.

It's also quite irrelevant to the concept raised here. Margaret Thatcher really wasn't all that "girly", I don't think. Suggesting that Blair is a younger version of her isn't in any way suggesting that he "can't stand up for himself".

Quite the contrary: she was seen by many as "tough and rugged when compared to men", and that very definitely was *not* regarded as a "positive quality"; she was derided for it -- google will find you several things if you ask for Thatcher "man in drag", and it really was not intended as a compliment on her ability to stand up for herself. It was an attack on her lack of "femininity".

If men behave like women, it's bad because being a woman is bad: it means being unable to stand up for one's self and all that.

But if women stand up for themselves -- behave like men, which is good -- it's bad. Somehow the logic just doesn't work. Unless one thinks that "standing up for one's self" is good when a man does it and bad when a woman does it, and "being weak and sissified" is good when a woman does it and bad when a man does it. And that way lies mental illness for women.

Either way -- calling a weak man a "woman in drag" and calling a strong woman a "man in drag" -- is insulting to women.

And the initial post didn't seem to be saying that Tony Blair was like Margaret Thatcher in the sense that he stood up for himself. It seemed to be that he was doing that dog standing on its hind legs thing that she presumably did:

"Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs.
It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all."

Tony Blair trying to "be a man" is as pathetic as Margaret Thatcher trying to "be a man", is the message I got; Tony Blair's imitation of a man is as bad as hers, and he's really just weak and sissified: a woman.

But heck, I'm open to the idea that it was just a bit of a clumsy joke about two crappy people who are supposed to be so different actually being very much the same. ;)

.

[FireHeart]

12. Well said!

I'm getting SO sick of hearing this crap on the DU...and everywhere else, for that matter. The utter idiocy of such statements is enough to make one :puke:

[jos]

11. Oh please!

That's not the point.:eyes: It wasn't running down women. It was just an observation.

Actually, now that I look more closely, he really looks like a jack-in-the-box.

[kixot]

2. I don't know about that.

But he's certainly been acting like *'s little BITCH!

[commander bunnypants]

5. Well you know what they say about those Brits

Even the naked chef seems a little girlie to me but I hear he married a real looker.

Just kidding just kidding- to my British friends

Its Britains answer to Antrax Ann Coulter

Bahawawaw

DEMMAN

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

6. No, but Pat Sajak is

According to my brother.

[SOteric]

7. Think about it...

Have you ever seen Tony Blair and Ann Coulter in a room at the same time?

[transeo]

9. An insult to drag performers everywhere

Speaking as a drag queen, my drag king friends would horribly insulted by that insinuation, as I am by the idea that Thatcher was a drag queen. I mean, come on - those clothes, the makeup - no self respecting drag performer would ever go out in public looking like either of them.

:hi:

[number9]

10. He's obviously a male poodle in drag

yup

edit: forgot to add dragging his butt on the carpet behind * and begging for a treat.

[cosmicdot]

13. "No sex please, we're British"

"Love flies out the door when money comes innuendo." Groucho Marx, 'Monkey Business'

from an AbFab episode, Patsy's sister visits New Years Eve and comments that she "thought all British men were Gay" to which Edina's ex-husband's boyfriend replies: "if only"

it seems that it's getting to the point that Americans can't have a sense of humour anymore ... nothing is funny ... or allowed to be funny ... everything is taken at face value ... perhaps that's why writers of Britcoms are more successful

"No sex please, we're British"

"The play revolves around a newlywed couple who have just moved into an apartment above a bank where the groom works. When the bride receives dirty pictures in the mail, it nearly costs her husband his job. To complicate matters, the newlyweds have unexpected guests - such as a mother-in-law.

"Here's all this pornography coming in and they're trying to get rid of it before anybody notices," said Sam Richardson who plays a bank cashier. "I come in for a normal day and I'm dropped in the middle of it. I get blamed for everything."

No Sex, Please, We're British takes place in Windsor, England. In farcical fashion, there are puns and lots of slamming doors. Characters are not who they appear to be.

"It seems like half the cast is in various stages of undressing," said Zan Yassin, who plays bride Frances Hunter.

"It sounds a lot more risque than it actually is," she said. "The most risque part is the title."

Much of the laughter relies on subtle British humor, actors said.

"There's a lot of wordplay and innuendoes," Richardson said. "I catch new jokes every time I read it."

[cosmicdot]

14. "No sex please, we're British" - dupe posting

msg deleted on edit - duplicate

[stanwyck]

15. If the male DUers are the more enlightened

of their sex, we're really in trouble. I've been disheartened by the sexim of our so-called liberal brethren. From the many who have derided Title IX, and have defended the "Bambi" hunts, to the ones who use "woman" as an insult. If these are the progressives, we're hurting, sisters.

[FireHeart]

17. It's not just the sisters who are hurting...

but the brothers as well. A few idiots try to appear to be "enlightened" but it's a poser--they are no more enlightened than their freeper *true* brothers.

Ugh.

But it's true the women will be hurt. Which is what their intent is, always has been and always will be.

Sick freaks--trying to play both ends of true liberality.

[Tyler Durden]

16. Tony Blair is an ALIEN.

To paraphrase Morgan Freeman from "SEVEN":

I would not be surprised if his head split open and a UFO popped out and flew around the room.