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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:00 PM
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Poll question: Favorite female rock star?
I know I missed some,and I have the Heart girls together,but these girls kick ass.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:03 PM
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1.  johnette napolitano or shirley manson
toss-up.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:04 PM
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2. See,I told you I missed some.
These are two of my favorites too.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:04 PM
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3. Pauline Murray
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:04 PM
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4. Shirley Manson and Liz Phair
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:21 PM
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64. I second that...eom
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:06 PM
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5. Gwen Staphonie (spelling?)
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:10 PM
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31. Stefani
nt
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:11 PM
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6. Kim Deal, Kim Gordon
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:16 PM
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35. Very Cool!
B-)
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:12 PM
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7. Wendy O. Wiliams
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:14 PM
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8. I looked on your poll for Janis Joplin, found her on --
-- the blue line, and cast m vote for one of the most affecting human beings I have ever heard sing.

In 1970 Jon Landau, writing in ROLLING STONE, said this about Janis Joplin:

“Our picture of Janis Joplin was based on a pact between Janis and ourselves, satisfying some mutual need to make the world a little easier to bear by making it a little less real. And of course we could never be satisfied with her and Janis finally exhausted herself trying to keep her end of the bargain. Janis Joplin was a human being and was never any of the things we wanted to believe about her. She was beset by the same fears and problems as anyone who sat in the audience watching her. The difference lay only in her ability to express herself for ourselves, through her music and her ability to perform. The rest we made up.”

I miss Janis Joplin. I miss her a lot.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:51 PM
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18. I love Janis also..
... but I certainly never thought of her as described by Mr. Landau in that unfortunate paragraph.

She was clearly as screwed up as anyone and willing to give voice to it. It was not her downfall, it was her art and her exaltation.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:03 PM
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25. I took Landau's paragraph to be pro-Janis -- sort of a
way of saying that she was a woman from Port Arthur, Texas, with the same kinds of fears and self-doubts as the people who paid money to hear her, but that in her case, she had this amazing talent -- her voice.

And my god that voice. One reviewer described it as a psychic talon rising from somewhere deep down in the back of her throat, reaching over the audience to hook into their flesh.

I have never heard another voice like that, male or female, in any genre. Janis was the one-of-a-kind vocalist.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:48 AM
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44. I reread the paragraph...
.... I guess it was the "trying to keep up with us" part that rubbed me the wrong way. I don't think she was trying to "keep up with us", I think she was trying to "keep ahead of herself".

Either way, I also love Janis and thought she was a great talent. Sure, not everything about the way she sang was 100% original, almost nothing ever is.

What she brought was real passion, a real willingness to bare it all.

I sure cannot think of a contemporary vocalist who is popular who comes close IMHO...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:02 AM
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47. Agree on all points. And in my posts here I failed to say --
-- how homesick I am for her. I never met the woman. But I "know" her voice so well. It's in my blood and bones, I think.

Not very many public figures get that bones-and-blood sadness response from me, but Janis does.

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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:43 PM
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67. She was the best
I remember my high school choir director playing the 45 version of "Piece of my Heart". He said, "This woman has a wonderful voice, but if she keeps singing like this, she will lose it in a few years!"

All the others on the list are wannabees. Janis was the first and the greatest!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:45 PM
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69. Yep. She had the fire. If I could change anything --
-- about her career, it would be the backup bands she played with.

I just never thought Big Brother & the Holding Company were the right musicians to back up Janis Joplin.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:15 PM
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9. Aimee Mann... this week
:7
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:17 PM
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10. Debbie Harry is simply debravacious.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:00 PM
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57. She's even Def, Dumb, and Blonde!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:19 PM
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11. They're not stars, but Corin Tucker and K. McCarty are my faves.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:26 PM
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14. K. McCarty of Dead Dog's Eyeball fame?
Kool, very Kool.

:thumbsup:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:34 PM
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15. The very same.
I also love her work with Glass Eye (talk about underrated!)

She has the most glorious voice imaginable, like a punk Sandy Denny. Plus she can wring more emotion from the songs she sings than just about anyone since Van Morrison; I want "Dead Dog's Eyeball" played at my funeral.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:52 PM
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20. yep, I love her
and loved Glass Eye. Used to see them fairly often at the Liberty Lunch in Austin. I once saw them play a double bill with the Reivers - it was heaven. Or, the Reivers may have been Zeitgeist back then. Have you listened to much Daniel Johnston? I love his lyrics.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:54 PM
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21. Absolutely!
Johnston's a force of nature, or at least used to be before he started taking meds.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:01 PM
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24. Don't play cards with Satan
for the recording aesthetic, the joy of Funeral Home and the pathos of Got to Get You into My Life make 1990 one of my fave lps of all time.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:19 PM
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12. Joan Jett performed for the Marines
in Okinawa when my son was based there. (he's back in Iraq for his second tour). He said she really did a great show, performing in the hot sun, and spent hours afterward talking to the guys. He said she looked really good for "someone my Mom's age."
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:56 PM
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22. *sigh* I feel old now.
Time stands still for no man. Or female rock star.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:24 PM
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13. Polly Jean Harvey.
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 09:24 PM by Spider Jerusalem
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:08 PM
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29. Amen
nt
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:04 PM
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41. I so agree............
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:46 PM
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68. Better than Hynde?
No way.

Siouxie from S. and the Banshees is better than Harvey.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:31 PM
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73. I HATE the Pretenders.
And I like Siouxsie, but I don't think she's better.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:45 PM
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16. I can't choose between Chrissie Hynde and Janis
so I just won't vote.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:52 PM
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19. Yeah...
... I felt exactly the same way. :)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:47 PM
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17. Johnette Napolitano, of Concrete Blonde.
:loveya:
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:04 PM
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26. good choice
:)
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:59 PM
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23. Joan Jett. But I have a soft spot for Pat Benatar and Patti Smith too.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:06 PM
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27. PJ Harvey, Shirley Manson, Fiona Apple
nt
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:07 PM
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28. shirley manson
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:13 PM
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34. and kathleen hanna
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:10 PM
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30. Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads
There's another good one.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:11 PM
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32. ooooh
good one
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:12 PM
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33. woo hoo! and Tom Tom Club
:bounce:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:23 PM
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43. She really rocks and so does Polly Jean Harvey!
:bounce:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:47 PM
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36. Chrissy Hynde, Chrissy Hynde, Chrissy Hynde!!!
Not only does she write great songs, she has an amazing stage presence AND plays guitar.

Chrissy Rocks!
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:48 PM
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38. she is such a favorite of mine, I misspelled her first name!!
Oy Vey!!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:48 PM
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37. lauryn hill or mc lyte
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:48 PM
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39. It's hard to choose from this list
but I know I wouldn't choose Courtney Love.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:50 PM
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40. That's Deborah Harry, puhleeze
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:07 PM
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42. What about Joni Mitchell? Is she not considered a rocker?
:shrug:
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Debaser Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:02 AM
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45. Kim Deal and Kristin Hersh
My favourites.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:13 AM
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46. I voted Patti Smith
but did so reflexively before seeing Janice Joplin's name. Both are great.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:04 AM
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48. Bono
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:04 AM
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49. If she qualifies as "rock"...
... Aimee Mann (but she may be considered "pop" instead)

If Aimee is "pop" then I vote Chrissy Hynde
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:05 AM
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50. Janis Joplin
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:11 AM
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51. "I like the you cross the street 'cause you're....precious."
Chrissy!!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:42 AM
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52. Tina Turner
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ImpeachBush Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:44 AM
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53. Joni
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:52 AM
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54. Michael Jackson
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:53 AM
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55. Debora Iyall And why not?
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:56 AM
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56. courtney love=rock star
in every ugly sense of the word and her music is good too.
it was either her or janis, but courtney married another rock star, so she edged out janis.

i know janis did the ultimate rock star thing by killing herself, but courtney still has time.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:11 PM
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Janis only killed herself. Courtney killed her husband.
So is that more of a rock star thing? :shrug:
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:17 PM
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62. i don't think courtney killed kurt
so i left that part out. i think she was smart enough to realize that kurt was the big bread winner, then and in the future.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:30 PM
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72. SHE DIDN'T kill her husband.
She's an asshole; not a killer. She's really brilliant, too!:-)
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:32 PM
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75. Annie Lennox.
WOW; could anyone come up with something better than "Would I lie to you?"
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:11 PM
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58. I voted Pat Benatar.
She's got a great female rock voice. I also really like Heart.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:13 PM
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59. Melissa Etheridge.
I was listening to her before most people had ever heard of her.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:20 PM
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60. Janis.
No question.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:23 PM
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61. Suzanne Vega
A near-genius songwriter.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:20 PM
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63. Bonnie Raitt, Kate Bush, Joni Mitchell, Grace Slick...
to name a few you forgot.
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:25 PM
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65. Sean Yseult
Bass player for White Zombie. She made that bass SING, man.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:26 PM
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70. Yeah, she was good.
What's she doing now, do you know?
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:36 PM
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77. She is playing with a band called "Rock City Morgue"
They have two albums out.
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Joe Power Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:33 PM
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66. Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti Patti
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:28 PM
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71. Anne and Nancy only have two votes?
A travesty.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:31 PM
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74. I agree. Totally underrated
Ann has the best rock voice around. And she still has it!!!
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:34 PM
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76. Kim Deal and Liz Fraser
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:41 PM
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78. Liz Phair and Kirstin Hersch
Because they got balls.
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