Are you sick of HOWARD STERN and his humiliation of women???

[laugle]

I think Howard's time has come and gone. How many of you are willing to pay for satelite radio to hear him?

[Daphne08]

1. I wouldn't pay to listen to him

[tjdee]

2. I don't think Howie Stern humiliates women.

I think some of his bathroom humor is stupid, but I did listen to and enjoy his show for a number of months when I had occasion to be driving that early.

I think he's great, and his being on Sirius...I'd consider satellite radio now, whereas before I had no reason at all to consider it. I think it's a pointless medium. Unless you're fighting the kind of censorship issues he is.

Double you EN be cee!

[TK421]

3. He was funny at first, but now he just bugs me

I find most of his material to be outdated...fart jokes are just a thing of the past. As far as him demeaning women, well, thats Howard for you. However, please understand that all of this is part of an act. I would not pay for satellite to listen to him.

[rfranklin]

That's what all the old farts say...

He was funnier when he was more hungry and sex starved. All the guys who were married like him or just couldn't score could relate to his humor. Now he's worth millions and millions and has a super model banging him so he's not so funny or genuine.

[Elidor]

4. Stern never floated my boat

The women are probably the only interesting part of his show.

[belladonna]

5. Eh, I'm a woman and he doesn't offend me that much

Granted, I don't listen to him that much, even though I have Sirius. The women who go on his show know what to expect and, for the most part, seem to enjoy it. Howard is Howard and always will be.

[laugle]

15. Women enjoy it, I find that very offensive!!

considering that most of them have been abused, sexually or otherwise, and Howard knows that and exploits it. He's an ugly guy who hates women because of their rejection of him and loves humiliating them.

[LynneSin]

17. Get over yourself

Not every woman that goes on that show has been exploited in the past. I'm a woman, in fact I would say a feminist and I've been listening to Stern for over a decade. You can't exploit those who go on that show because those women went there on their own free will. Not everyone in this country is as intelligent as we are and you find that the women who do that show aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

But Stern does the best celebrity interviews because he asks the questions that no one else will. And Stern is a biggest support of both women issues (choice) and gay rights. He's been very vocally supported of both and also freedom of speech. Hell that man was on a mission to try and get Bush out of the office and will regularly rip Bush a new asshole on a weekly basis.

I use to think how you did then I listened to his show a few times and I found it funny as hell and recognized that he's not a sexist pig at all. He just knows how to find the craziest people out there and make a good show out of them.

And if you've read anything about his real life, he was married to the same woman for over 20 years (faithful the entire time) and after his divorce and about a year of dating, he has now been a commited relationship with the same woman for about 5 years.

It's shock radio. Don't like it? Don't listen to it.

[laugle]

22. Hey, I agree with all that you said except,

you failed to mention that he does exploit many pathetic women to get ratings and I really hate it. I liked some of the humor because humor is good for you. But I really think his time has come and gone. Also, I used to enjoy the celebrity interviews, but it seems no one comes on much anymore. In any case, the show is crap and very stale....

[LynneSin]

34. WRONGWRONGWRONG

As I've stated - you cannot exploit those who are willing to go on that show and do what they do. It's not like he has an ad in the NYPost that says "Wanted: Woman with 34DD breasts and a history of neglect and molestation for local radio show. Must be willing to get naked and spanked by a rotting fish".

These are willing women and I don't feel sorry for any of them. Hell he's had ivy league graduates in there willing to show off their breasts, should we have a pity party for them too.

From time to time I do find him offensive and when that happens I turn off the radio. But usually the next day I'll be back to again enjoy his show.

And right now I'm torn because I was always going to get Sirrus radio because I wanted Stern for in the morning and the full broadcast of Air America. (XM only did a partial) But then XM just struck a deal with AAR and I'm so torn over which satellite station I want to get.

So for now since I can't get AAR (not in wilmington) I'm going to hold off until the end of the year in hopes that AAR gets a station in our state. If not then I'll have to decide.

I enjoy Stern for what he is - pure entertainment. Compared to someone like Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly, you can hardly call Howard Stern someone who exploits. Just take the whole Terri Schiavo incident - at least the woment that Stern 'exploit' are alive!

[laugle]

40. Well I'm glad to see you find some of it offensive,

maybe I am older than you 52, but even Howard knows that he is exploiting the crap out of these women. In any case, I admire your candor but can't help but feel that you have a lack of respect toward your own gender. Maybe it's your age, experiences or something else.... please don't post something nasty to me because you and I disagree on many things....thank you

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

43. I am offended that you think that a woman who finds entertainment

in his without habving a 'lack of respect for her own gender'?? :wtf: lighten up, princess!

[LynneSin]

47. You know, I was almost going to tolerate your comments

...until that fricking crap about the 'lack of respect to my own gender.'

Don't even fucking go down that path and no, I'm not some young'in here in the lounge. That is just downright offensive especially from someone who I would normally perceive as a progressive thinker!

You know, it's not just women that he 'exploits'. He's got plenty of dumbass men coming in on that show to that get humiliated including regulars like High Pitched Eric, Beetlejuice, Gary the Retard and Crackhead Bob. All of these men and many many more get just as exploited as the women. In fact, every one of those men have disabilities that Howard takes full advantage of on a regular basis. I don't hear you bleeding your heart out in angry because of this?

To be honest, this has nothing do with women being exploited - maybe it's just your own insecurities that he has such attractive women on that show and you inadequacies of competing with this. Hell, I'm an overweight woman and I have no issues because to me, it's a reminder that I would rather be smart as I am that some dumbss with 34DD breasts.

You really should look in the mirror when it comes to "lack of respect to my own gender" because the one thing I would never do is be that fricking insultive to another woman who I know is a liberal thinker and probably out there working hard for progressive causes like I have for the last 10 years with my donation of time and money to Planned Parenthood, NARAL and Emily's List.

Don't go down that path - it's just wrong and it always will come right back in your face!

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

49. See her post #44.... WTF does she know??

[laugle]

51. Hey lyn lighten up, this is my last reply because I can't spend anymore

time on this subject. First of all I am 52 happily married, very attractive, very financially secure okay. Lets get the personal crap out of the way. You and I disagree strongly. I'm not going to sit here and insult you. But I do think you are rude and I think you think the same of me. So lets just end it. I see no useful purpose in insulting each other and I really have to go. If you want to continue this send me a private message I will be happy to answer.

[LynneSin]

53. Maybe you should think twice before you posted crap where you said:

but can't help but feel that you have a lack of respect toward your own gender.

I find that offensive to the core and offensive to all women here at DU

[laugle]

58. yes, I do believe it sounds that way, but you know I don't know you,

that's how it sounded. You know the old saying " woman are their own worst enemy" it seemed to be true. Frankly you sound very intelligent and thoughtful as well and I don't think you need anyone to speak for you. Understand that it is easy to have misconceptions about people when posting on message boards and don't take offense because I really don't know you. Peace..

[LynneSin]

60. It's fine......I know I don't know you either

but the fact that you and everyone else who posts here is pretty much a progressive liberal peace-loving person, the last thing I would ever do is question their respect towards these things.

We live we learn

[laugle]

64. LYN, I got to go, but

thanks for your replys, hope you get what I'm saying, I can only express my opinion which is why I clarify with the fact that impressions can get scewed because you don't know the person. My intention on my posts isn't to insult, but as you know it sometimes happens. There were many things we agreed on, and some we don't. That's life, right....hope to talk with you again. I think you are cool...

[LynneSin]

68. I'll forgive you only if...

..you spell my name right - it's Lynne, just like in my screen name.

All is in the past

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

54. You STARTED this thread... WITHOUT A COMPLETE PICTURE!

Wahh, you got caught talking about shit of which you have ZERO knowledge, only what you deem to be a politically correct comment!!

Then you ATTACK those who have a better understanding of the subject matter!??

[Name removed]

80. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

84. Heh...

Yes, it's 'butting-in' to reply to a thread on a public forum. Oh wait, are you *really* someone else?? hmmm??

Ignore... oh my, how ever shall I survive without replies including the wit of your poorly-informed opinions? :eyes:

[Cadence]

82. Well I have a very in depth knowledge of the subject matter

and I happen to agree with her. It seems YOU are the one that is attacking. As I've read through your comments I found myself becoming infuriated until I got to the part about how you're reading Howard Stern books for knowledge and understanding then it all became clear. This from someone who relates their physical likeness to a 3 year old cartoon character. O.k. Sure.

:wtf:

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

85. Please help me understand

how did I attack? She SAID in post # 44 what limited exposure that she has to the subject about which she posted. Is it an attack to refer to a post in the same thread?

Cutsie snark on my name/appearance. I'm impressed, it's probably been a loong time since Jr. High.

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

87. OK, just got a few more things to say...

I don't know why the harsh words, again, I was not attacking. My problem is/was not with the opinion. If you don't like him, super! I did call the OP out on SUCH nasty accusations to Lynne, just because Lynne has a differing opinion.

Stern is not everyone's cup o' tea. Neither is 'Larry the Cable Guy', it's all entertainment. But, to say that she feels that a person with a differing opinion has a 'lack of respect for her own gender' is worthy of questioning. Especially given the fact that the OP said she does not listen to the show.

Oh, I did not read his books for 'knowledge and understanding'. I didn't even pick up the first for entertainment. I, like the OP, had an uninformed poor opinion of him. A friend challenged me to read it and then discuss. I read and found that I enjoyed his ability to tell a good, funny, sometimes inappropriate story. I don't agree with everything he says... or even MOST of what he says. It's entertainment, not a religion nor a political statement.

And seriously, I've got no qualms with you and don't know where the hell the snark came from. Last time we interacted was eons ago, and there certainly was no 'bad blood'.

:hi:

[RevolutionaryActs]

78. My mother, who is very, very liberal, loves Howard and she's 56.

:shrug:

[tjdee]

24. I would date him in a second.

Just like many of the women on that show, and I have not been abused/whatever. I realize that he is doing a job, like anyone else is. His audience likes all that, that's what he gives them.

He doesn't exploit those women, if anything those women exploit themselves. Porn Star X or Y know that if they're on Howard, the sales of their calendar/whatever will skyrocket, for example.

[Renew Deal]

31. Have you seen his girlfriend?

[sundog]

36. there you are

:pals:

:hi:

[belladonna]

74. Awww, I missed your reply in the flame war that ensued

Missed you, hot stuff :loveya:

[RevolutionaryActs]

6. I don't think that's true.

He doesn't force them to do anything they don't want to do. These women, who are usually strippers or playmates, go on his show knowing full well what's going to happen. If they don't want to do it, they shouldn't go on his show.

I like him, and I think it's insane the censorship he's had to deal with, considering he's been saying these things for 15 years and now he gets a fine? OK then.

I'm glad he'll be on satellite radio and be able to say(and do) what he wants without worrying about getting a huge, pointless fine.

[AlCzervik]

8. exactly! sometimes just the banter between him and Bababooey has me

laughing out loud in my car especially the days he has on Ralph? the limo driver.

[tjdee]

11. The worst was when Oprah explained a tossed salad and Howie

couldn't even play the clip of what she said.

Because if he did, he would get fined by the FCC--even though Oprah had just said it the day before (or so) on national network television at 4 in the afternoon.

The censorship on the radio is outdated and just ridiculous--that whole period was must listen Howard for me.

[RevolutionaryActs]

77. I know! That was just ridiculous!

F'ing nuts.

[LynneSin]

13. I second what Rev says

:D

[laugle]

19. I agree with you to a point, but

come on he exploits the hell out of some women who just need some money to live. Granted, when they want to plug something, they know what they are in for. He is still a pig, the spanking machine is really annoying. People need to get a life, and not live vicariously off this crap!

[RevolutionaryActs]

75. If you don't like him, don't listen to him.

Plain and simple.

Most of the time those women who go on his show are use to all of that stuff. People listen to him the same reason they go to a strip joint.

I find when he's not talking about women's breasts he is funny. He's a pervert, he's gotten famous because of that, so why get pissy about it now? He's been on the air for over 15 years.

[sundog]

28. right on rev

he is a guilty pleasure of mine :blush:

[DawgHouse]

7. I don't feel that humiliates is the correct word

maybe "exploits"? Anyway, it's the same old thing time after time. I wouldn't pay to listen to him but that's just me.

[KoKo]

9. He just loves Women...he takes every chance he can get to show how

well he can "screw" those women he loves. And...he even became sort of a Dem Mouthpiece to show "just how far he goes in loving and screwing women."

Ain't he the Best...Just love to hear his "swill." It's even better when he "goes down on them" on his show...but that was just for the "TV Media." We know he had to do it for "ratings." Otherwise he is "pure in his dislike of females."

Hey....it's a big world and diversified. We Dems need a "Limbaugh of the Left" and "in your face kind of Male Supremacist" who talks "real dirty" but is really just one of us, here :eyes:...it makes for good company, doesn't it? :shrug:

[LynneSin]

10. He's not humiliating women

He's humiliating dumbass people. And btw, we all loved him during 2004 when he was going after the Bush Administration and trying to get people to vote for John Kerry.

No one forces these women to be on the Stern show. I find him a hoot and I'm still torn between getting XM (Air America) or Sirrus (Stern).

[KoKo]

69. Well...not "everyone" loved him...some of us just passed those posts by

after reading the "sig line" with his name in it. :D

[samplegirl]

12. I think hes a pig

I hate the way he rates every womans body parts and tells her to
get implants.
If God wanted all of us to have size D boobs we would all have them.

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

14. I think he's misunderstood. And a lot of his show is NOT about sex.

... though, I have not heard him daily since I moved away from Chicago 4 years ago.

I think more people with open minds should read his books. He's a very witty and intelligent man. And a superb story-teller!!

On edit: I think he also helped me understand men in general a lot more. A lot of the things that some women find SO offensive are really just silly men being silly boys. And... OH, women have their own brand of girl silliness.

[tjdee]

18. He is really smart, I agree.

First, I listened because I wanted to hear this "pig" in action, so I too could be like, ewww, what a jerk.

But that never happened.

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

27. I read his books first, same reason... I wanted to see how bad he was...

and I was hooked!!

[KoKo]

70. Some of us females didn't really care for the way Stern explained "men"

to us...or the way he may have "tried" to help us understand them, though.

To each his/her own...:shrug:

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

72. See, he was not trying to 'help us understand', it just helped ME

undestand. No, he is not always right, nor politically correct or even MATURE in many cases. He's entertainment. I don't like EVERY song that Zepplin recorded, but most entertain me. Yes, we all have different tastes. I happen to like a good deal of his work.

Note- this is not directed at you, but more to the OP:
I do not think it's fair to judge others because they happen to find entertainment in something you don't. Least of all when your exposure is extremely limited.

[anti_shrub]

16. Stern shows respect when it's required.

When he has a female guest on that isn't a stripper or porn star he treats them with the same respect as any male guest. I've even heard him admonish people on his show if they cross the line.

I mean, if you have strippers and porn stars on, what are you gonna talk to them about? I doubt a discussion of world affairs is going to make for exciting radio with someone who sits on people's faces for a living.

[Left Is Write]

20. I was sick of Howard Stern the first time I heard him.

I don't think he's as clever or interesting or funny as he thinks he is.

[radwriter0555]

21. Luckily, the off button works PERFECTLY.

*whew*

[Mojambo]

25. You said it.

There is nothing bad about Howard Stern that can't be solved by turning him off.

If someone's not willing to take that simple step then they kind of deserve the agony that Stern causes them.

[laugle]

35. Stern to me is like fox faux news, I

will turn him on once in awile to see what he is up too. But he has some girl on the spanking machine or the women are naked and being judged...you can even tell that Howard is bored with his own show....it's the same old tired crap!!!! Anyway, the question is about what do you think about him, not how we should turn it out.

[LynneSin]

37. I would hardly say Faux News...

...since Stern is especially critical towards the Bush administration when it comes to choice, gay rights and free speech.

Not going to see that on Faux News

[laugle]

42. The comparison was because I can only turn on fox and stern for 5 minutes

[Mojambo]

38. Well, actually the question was "Are you sick of him?"

And if you are then you wouldn't be listening.

I've just kind of got a problem with people who listen to Stern just so they can be outraged and angry about him. That's the kind of vibe I got from this thread.

[LynneSin]

39. Yes, like all those religious nutjobs

Seriously! If I found Stern to be that offensive to my religon I surely wouldn't want to be stuck listening to him on the radio

[laugle]

44. First of all, I am not listening to him, he is on

TV here on the "E" channel, so sometimes I click it on to see what he is doing, I liked some of the humor and celebrity interviews. But lately it seems he always has some woman naked or on the spanking machine. Needless to say I do turn him off!!!!

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

48. AAAH - the truth comes out!!

His E! show is about 1% of his total show, and they pick the 1% that makes the most shocking TV for that!

Jeebus, you base your whole opinion on such a small, intentionally shocking percentage!?!?

Really, what do you know? Read his books, listen to his show before you condemn others, claiming that they have huge sociological issues because they pay attention to the WHOLE picture, not just a spoon-fed portion of it!! :eyes:

[donco6]

23. Can't stand him.

Just never really got his schtick. ??

Must be an East Coast thing.

[CanuckAmok]

26. Nope.

And shouldn't you be baking?

[Renew Deal]

29. I like him and am willing to shell out some cash for Sirius.

I won't get it just for him, but he is a factor.

[TreasonousBastard]

30. No, no, and no...

Stern's the smartest shockjock we get around here, and although I rarely listen to him any more, "humiliation" is a crock.

Are the Springer TV show women who go for the Jerrybeads being humiliated? How about the Girls Gone Wild bimbos? Who forced them to do that? Willing participants all, and if they are in some way humiliated, they just jumped at the bait.

There was a guy called Ugly George on cable in NYC who did actually seduce women on camera and dumped them. He seemed to actually think that what he was was doing was some sort of art, but he was exploiting and humiliating them. Your basic slimy turd.

Stern isn't in that class at all. Sex is dirty, smarmy, and funny, and fun, and Stern plays that up for all he can with willing players who think the same way. And know the game and how to play it.

[Bouncy Ball]

32. If you don't like him, don't listen to him.

It's pretty simple, really.

[YankeyMCC]

33. I'm going to Pay to listen

If it was just about him I might not have. But it is shows like his, the Daily Show (which you have to pay for by paying for cable), and the like that will be the only bastions of free speech left.

Free speech is only for the people with enough disposable income for cable and sat radio now.

And for free speech to mean anything it must be exercised and boundaries tested. Howard does this well and in an entertaining way.

Generally I don't think he humiliates women or anyone. There have been moments I think he has crossed a line I would draw personally but if that didn't happen once in a while it wouldn't be half as interesting and entertaining.

[rocktivity]

41. Howard jumped the shark when he got divorced

Until then, he had the best the both worlds--Hugh Hefner by day, Ward Cleaver by night. Nothing he said really meant anything because everyone knew it wasn't real--once the "On Air" light went off, he was going to go home, mow the lawn, to help his kids with their homework.

But his divorce sucked the fantasy out of his shtick. When he talked of banging supermodels, his regular guy listeners could fantasize along with him. But he CAN bang supermodels now because there's nothing to stop him. Where there was once vicariousness is there is now good old-fashioned jealousy. Either marry that supermodel or take on more anti-conservative vitriol, Howard--in order to save your career, you'll have to get respectable again!

:headbang:
rocknation

[deutsey]

46. He jumped the shark with me when he joked about an airline crash

in DC back in the '80s when he was on DC101.

I've never been a fan of his, but that incident really soured me against him.

[DS1]

66. I don't listen to him anymore, but I have heard both sides of him

when he was married, and when he wasn't. Now he just comes off as really really desperate, and it's lame.

[gollygee]

45. I hate Howard Stern

well I don't hate him - I don't know him! But I don't like anything he's done because it's so irritatingly sexist. Over the top sexist. That isn't funny.

[Radical Activist]

50. Now that he can't complain about censorship

what will his show be about? There's something to having limits, and there's a certain entertainment value to hearing someone push the limits for the sake of rebellion. Will his show become so vulgar and pornographic that he'll lose some listeners?

[valis]

52. ABSOLUTELY. I cannot stand the pig.

I'm not so much for banning, but I hope people don't pay for watching his crap.

[Mojambo]

55. This is what I don't get

Why do you care? What is it to you whether people pay to listen to him or not?

I get that he's not everyone's boat, he's not really even mine, but what is your interest in whether others like him or not?

[valis]

56. I think we would live in a better world if people did not spend money

and time watching that crap. And I hope they don't.

[valis]

57. He's so damn boring, anyway... Same crap over and over...

[laugle]

61. AMEN!!!!

[Mojambo]

59. And you feel comfortable setting moral standards for others?

That's cool, not really my thing...

[valis]

62. So, expressing an opinion is setting a moral standard... Novel concept...

[Mojambo]

63. Not forcing, setting. n/t

[valis]

67. Wha?

[LynneSin]

65. You look at how Hannity, O'Reilly, etc exploited Terri Schaivo

and you realize that at least Stern has never exploited a woman who had no way of defending herself. I'm sure every guest on that show realizes what they are about to get into when they're on the show and I'm very sure that the Stern show has lawyers to make sure that any guest who isn't a willing participant doesn't get on the show and exploited

[sleipnir]

71. The women whom he mocks on his show are beyond stupid.

It's not that he's humiliating women in general, he's humiliating STUPID women. He also takes shots at stupid MEN, but you probably didn't notice that.

Howard is Howard. He'll attack whoever he wants, and it's usually stupid people. Sometimes, he even falls into that category and he'll later mock himself for his own foolishness.

I'm not going to pay to hear him, but he's an interesting voice on the radio, to say the least.

[valis]

73. I liked the movie Private Parts though....

[Vektor]

76. If women stopped going on his show...

...and ALLOWING themselves to be degraded by this imbecile, there would be no one to humiliate. See my sig line - it pretty much sums it up.

[valis]

79. Good point...

[richmwill]

81. Wow...

I didn't know that Brent Bozell posted here!

[dxstone]

83. I'm sick of people calling him a comedian...

He's NEVER been funny, ever... and the assholes he surrounds himself with are even less talented than he is...
As Bill Hicks would say, he's a demon sent to earth to lower the standards for everyone...

His sad attempts at humor so often reveal a total bankruptcy of creativity and invention, a mental slovenliness and sloth that is just not all that attractive to some of us... the guy possesses a truly ugly inner child, the kind no one can really love cuz it's just such a fucking asshole...
He's funny in the same way John Wayne Gacy is funny...
as in, NOT.
If it weren't for the lesbians, I probably would NEVER have listened to him at all... but even that got tired very quickly.
And he does degrade his women guests, of course he does, that's his entire schtick. And yeah, a lot of 'em ask for it... so what?
They pay this asswipe millions of dollars to bore people to death. That's what pisses me off most.

D X Stone
http://presidentevilonline.com

[fleabert]

86. you couldn't pay ME to listen to him.

but I don't think he should get fined the way he has. that's bullshit. He's an asshole, but come on!