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Chuckup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:24 PM
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Are you lonely? If you answered yes, well...
your heart may be in trouble, for real.
http://www.healthtalk.ca/social_heart_050105_34993.php
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:30 PM
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1. Interesting
I guess I'm screwed then.
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Chuckup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:31 PM
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2. All the lonely people
where do they all come from?
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:33 PM
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3. They come from a life of poor choices and fear of choosing
They slip and slide through the days until they find themselves where they are and it is too late.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:42 PM
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4. Not necessarily
That's really not fair of you to say. How do you know why someone is lonely?
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:46 PM
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5. Just an observation
from personal experience.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:47 PM
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6. Ah
Well not from mine. :shrug: Everybody is different really. With me, personally, I'm too busy with school to make friends and all the one's I knew from high school except one don't talk to me anymore. Heh heh. :shrug: Oh well. Life is still life.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:47 PM
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7. nonsense
I fear wishing I was alone much more than being alone
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:56 PM
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8. There's a difference between being lonely and and being alone
<ope>
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:01 PM
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11. Very true
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:10 PM
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12. I have found that lots of folk who are "lonely"
just cannot stand their own company - they're not used to doing things alone. They can't go to a movie alone or out to eat alone - it's quite pitiful.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:08 PM
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16. Can't or don't want to?
I'm almost always alone. I have pets and I'm comfortable with being alone, but I do get lonely from time to time. If I want to see a movie alone, I'll rent one from Netflix. If I want to eat alone, I'll cook myself dinner. Why spend money on gas, tickets, dinner, tips etc. if it's not going to be a shared experience? The purpose in going out, IMO, is to see your friends on neutral turf where one doesn't feel like a guest and the other doesn't feel the pressure of being a host. I'm a good cook, and I'm a tightwad. Dinner and movies alone sound overly indulgent, wasteful, and bloody boring to me.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:00 AM
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20. it's not boring at all
some movies have to be seen on the big screen!
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:20 AM
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22. Nice to meet a fellow traveler.
I too pity those who will do anything to not be alone and cant seem to go anywhere without company.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:26 AM
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23. well, Lorien just seems more comfortable at home
I live alone and get a bit stir-crazy and have to get out - but it's true, I've known many people - especially women, who must have company and it is a bit sad to me. Not to mention that you increase your chances of meeting someone if you get out there!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:40 AM
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28. I didn't say that I was more comfortable at home
I said that I use my resources for dinner and movies when I want to meet with friends. I don't want to clean the house up for company. I don't want to wash loads of dishes every week. I'd rather meet them someplace where other people can do that. I don't have vast financial resources to throw away on an evening of self indulgence. If I really want to treat myself, I'll save my pennies and go to Paris (use to spend four day weekends there regularly when I HAD money). To each his or her own.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:28 AM
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39. OMG I can relate to you there
my apt is a disaster right now - I work 12 hour shifts at night and marvel at how badly the place falls apart when I seemingly spend so little time there during my work days. On my first day off I do a major cleanup and then it goes to hell again. YUP I have declined to have people over because of it. :D
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:33 AM
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26. TRAVEL is different
Edited on Mon May-02-05 01:21 AM by Lorien
I've traveled all over Britain, Europe, and the North American continent alone. I just know where to spend my money and time (since both are limited). The AMC and Bravo don't hold a candle to Switzerland.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:28 AM
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40. what is that black/white cat's name?
that is one cool face
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:01 AM
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41. Miro
after Juan Miro the abstract painter-though he's more often called Jabbacat, Buddhacat, or Fatty Lumpkin, lol!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:30 AM
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24. Our big screens come with obnoxious kids
no thanks. My TV is big enough!
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:36 AM
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27. I usually pick a matinee showing or a very late showing
It helps a little at the theatre I go to.

:)
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:43 AM
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29. I live near Disney World
There is no theater at any time of day without obnoxious kids. When I go with friends to the theater, we have a hell of a time finding seats that won't get kicked throughout the show.
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:50 AM
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30. I probably wouldn't go to the theater either if I was in your situation
that sucks
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:33 AM
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25. I can do those things on my own no problem.
I just get really lonely for adult conversation. I have neither the time or the money for dating. Sometimes I just wish for someone to share things w/ and I sometimes wish that I had someone there for me at the end of the day who could help cheer me up when I am down.
It just gets really hard raising my daughter on my own sometimes.
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:07 AM
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31. I feel the same way
I would like have someone to sit down with and watch a movie, joke around with, carry on a discussion, etc.

I don't know.....

:shrug:

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:41 AM
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32. Maybe it is because my main conversations
in person are w/ a four year old or about that same four year old. sometimes, I just want something more.
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:50 AM
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33. I understand
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:02 AM
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34. It really sucks sometimes
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:15 AM
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35. That it does
You'll eventually find someone

:)
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:24 AM
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37. when my daughter is older I might have more time
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:26 AM
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38. That's understandable
:)
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:57 PM
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9. that was deep
:hi:
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:16 PM
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14. I just heard on the news
Edited on Sun May-01-05 10:17 PM by FuzzySlippers
that this doesn't hold true for women. That women's health often improves after divorce while men's gets worse.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:59 PM
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15. If you factor in that divorced women receive much more support then
a divorced man does, both financially and emotionally, then you would have to factor that into the equation.

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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:34 PM
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19. Divorced women receive much more support financially?
How do you figure that?
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:13 AM
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21. Alimony and the sale of shared assets are a couple.
These days women inititate more divorces then men, so they are often better prepared for the divorce.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:12 PM
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42. Ain't that the truth
<ope>
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:08 PM
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17. Some people are lonely because they are not extroverts
As discussed in another thread. But preferring to be alone does not necessarily mean one is lonely so I don't know how that fits in with the whole heart thing.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:14 PM
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18. More often they come from abusive homes
suffer from chronic depression, anxiety attacks, social phobias, or have been raped (in the case of many women). Those aren't "poor choices"-that's either mental illness or a learned distrust.

"fear of choosing" what does that mean? Are you talking about men with a fear of commitment?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:59 PM
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10. Life sucks, then you die of heart trouble...
It's the way of the world.x(
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:10 PM
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13. I live alone but don't feel lonely
Edited on Sun May-01-05 10:11 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
I do have good friends, but my only immediate family is my brother who is a typical republican - asshole. As for heart disease, it's a hereditary factor on my father's side, and I do have coronary artery disease.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:16 AM
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36. Ah shit! Now I'm having chest pains! FUCK!
Thanks buddy!
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