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rebel_yell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:41 PM
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my date loved Sin City
ok, so last night my date wanted to see Sin City. I had seen it, but neglected to tell her about the unbelievable amount of brutality...but she loved it

Hatchet to the nuts..no problem
Hacking a man's limbs off and feeding him to the dogs...A-ok
Dirty Swirlies....Cool!!
A movie where every woman is either a hooker, a stripper, or a barmaid...awesome


Any other females in here enjoy it?




and btw....I loved it. definitely one for dvd
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:46 PM
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1. I loved it...
I never thought it was anti woman. I really thought it was great. If anything, I thought it was anti man with all the nuts getting chopped up. And how incredible was Elijah Wood in that movie? Didn't really have any lines, but he just kinda stared. It was unnerving. I thought it was brilliant. The cinematography with the black and white with selective color was really great, as well.
Duckie
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Horushawk Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:47 PM
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2. Frodo as wingnut Cannibal
was a bit much :puke:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:12 PM
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25. My friend Vijaya liked it
Edited on Mon May-02-05 06:14 PM by Lorien
she called it "great and horrible"-I think the brutality was just a bit much for her, but the pacing, art direction, etc. worked for her.

She may be biased though. She and her husband have been close friends with Frank Miller for ten years now. He was even at a party of theirs two weeks ago.:shrug:

D'oh! Meant to post to the original message.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:48 PM
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3. Marry this woman before she gets away.
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rebel_yell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:03 PM
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4. that could work..
she's really fuckin hot

hoo mama!!!
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:26 PM
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13. Why not?
It sounds like you two have a real Chuck Graner / Lynndie England compatability thing going on there!

(Sorry, I just hate violence.)
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rebel_yell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:36 PM
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22. well I like violent movies
seriously, sometimes ya just wanna see some blood and guts. And Sin City provided plenty of both.
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:05 PM
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5. I also loved it.
But I like violent movies. It is how I get my aggression out without feeling the need to beat the ever loving crap out of ALL the people who really deserve it.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:12 PM
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6. I walked out, left three others inside and sat for and hour 1/2 by myself
I have walked out on a total of three movies in my 25+ years of movie watching.

Horrible. the depiction and treatment of women was the proverbial straw for me.

The filmmaking itself was amazing. I totally respect and admire the process by which the film was made, revolutionary. and the cinematography was stunning too. neither of these were enough to keep me in my seat. (got my $ back too)
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rebel_yell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:15 PM
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7. just what we need...
some whiny feminist..


lol

just kiddingO8)
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:20 PM
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11. I am proud to be a feminist, but I have never been accused of being whiny!
;-) angry and whiny are two very different things. I'll take the feminist charge any day, thanks.

one of my husband's favorite sayings is: 'the truth lies in the joke'.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:35 PM
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8. Hmm
"the depiction and treatment of women was the proverbial straw for me"

I found the strength of the women to be somewhat noble. Their part of town was their own, they ruled it ruthlessly. Their chosen profession was just that, chosen. Everything else in the movie, attempted rape, abuse in a relationship, etc. Seems to happen every day. In NO WAY did this movie glorify these things, it in fact dealt with the perpetrators of these acts VERY harshly.

So. . . what's your problem ? Do you just choose to ignore art reflecting reality ? How do you deal with reality ?
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:18 PM
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10. I left in the first half hour.
if you saw that in the movie, good for you. I didn't.

"In NO WAY did this movie glorify these things, it in fact dealt with the perpetrators of these acts VERY harshly."

in fact, it dealt with violence with violence. Not my bag baby.

Art reflecting reality? LOL. This was a movie reflecting a comic book. Perhaps the comic book reflected aspects of reality, but I can certainly see how the message would be better conveyed by graphic art, rather than in flim.

What's your problem? do you choose to attack people for stupid shit on message boards for entertainment? How do you deal with being like that?

I think you might be a big fan of the comic and your feelings are hurt that I didn't like the movie. Get over it.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:39 PM
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15. First and Foremost
I have problems with censorship. I tire of people deciding small matters offend their sensibilities and decide that all people need to be "protected" from it.

"This was a movie reflecting a comic book."
QUITE true. It was direct reflection. The writer of the graphic novel was given creative control, and precedence was placed on matching the source material. Script, lighting, Positioning of characters, etc. ALL were done to bring his vision into a moving reflection. They are one and the same.

"do you choose to attack people for stupid shit on message boards for entertainment?"
Attack ? In what way did I attack YOU ? Did I use coarse or offensive language, such as you just did ? In NO WAY did I make an assumption on you, the questions I asked were relevant. "Is art reflecting life offensive to you?", if that was what offended you so much. With these same things in the daily news "How do you deal with reality ?" Do you view questions as attacks ?

You tried making an issue out of "treatment of women" in the film. As though it was belittling them or derogatory. You made no mention of violence being distasteful. Had you mentioned that I wouldn't have posted as I did. YOu were making an issue out of a non-issue, as I pointed out.

Perceived victimization is a problem in this nation. It allows for people to oppress others in a self-manufactured defense. This as we see right now in the political spectrum leads to tyranny. I chose to point out how your view was slightly askew, and asked why. Is that an attack on you ?

Do you have a problem with victimization ?

FYI Not a big fan of the comics. I had heard of them, but they weren't my style. I do like his other work though.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:35 PM
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21. "what's your problem" sounded like an attack to me.
don't PM me again. If you have something to say, say it here.

I am not a victim, nor do I portray one on DU. Would you like me to censor my language for your protection? I stated my reaction, never once saying that anyone else need agree with me or feel the way I did. Nor did I ever say that the movie shouldn't have been made or seen.

You said in your PM that I was making a mountain out of a molehill, indeed. You also said you'd hit 'alert' on me. Go ahead. I think a better course of action is to put each other on ignore. consider it done on my part. There is no arguement here. I don't want a fight, nor did I ask for one. I stated my feelings, mine alone.

please leave me alone, this isn't even important, but is becoming so because I don't appreciate your tone or your tactics.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:38 PM
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9. My girlfriend really liked it.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:21 PM
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12. to each their own. nt
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:34 PM
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14. I saw it with my female roommate...
She loved it.
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LSU_Subversive Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 04:54 PM
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16. it took me a few minutes to get used to the violence, but i ultimately
enjoyed it very much. i'm glad i didn't let my typically knee-jerk reaction to violence in film dissuade me from watching it through.

in fact, i seemed to enjoy it even more than my friends who attended the film with me (most of whom were also women). i'm definitely the more liberal and educated of the bunch too.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:09 PM
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17. I loved it.
Especially the bit where the hookers slaughtered all the gangsters and their corrupt cop cronies. I was not the only woman cheering at that part.

Now, if you want to see a really offensive film, I'd suggest "Ichi the Killer." It's so violent it makes the Passion look tame.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:10 PM
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19. Kakihara is so awesome.
I loved that movie... so crazy.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:51 PM
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23. Takashi Miike rocks.
Saw "Gozu" in the theater and recommend it highly.

I recently saw a bootleg of Izo. Hope it gets a theater release here.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:10 PM
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18. i liked it...
:thumbsup:
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:11 PM
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20. I liked it. It is very 1930's.
And so tongue in cheek. :-)
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silverpatronus Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:51 PM
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24. i'm a woman, and a staunch feminist, and i thoroughly enjoyed it
it was truly empowering to women. not to mention it just kicked ass!
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:18 PM
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26. That's what I thought too
I hear people whining about it being misogynistic and I'm like "I just don't see it" These women kick ass!
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