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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:31 AM
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Poll question: One never knows, does one?
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 09:42 AM by SouthoftheBorderPaul
Please give reasons for your answer.



On edit: New pic. Last one was too distracting.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:33 AM
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1. I think, therefore
I'll sit around starkers.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:37 AM
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3. You think it's his birthday
or is he a nudist? Alas, some questions are not meant to be answered.
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Clintmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:36 AM
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2. Hot picture! Don't understand the question though...
Am I missing something?
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:38 AM
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4. Look inward for your answer.
Some questions one must answer for one's self.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:52 AM
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5. one never knows, but all always know.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:56 AM
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6. Well put...
Completely inane but eloquently expressed nonetheless.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:58 AM
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7. And the expression makes the statement!
Who cares if it means something...

:shrug:
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:01 AM
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8. Certainly not I.
...And we trudge ever closer to the true meaning of this thread.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:30 AM
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9. Terrence Humbodys-Hedoff knows.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:31 AM
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10. too distracting?
:rofl:
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:34 AM
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12. Yes, naked men provoke many things....
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 11:20 AM by SouthoftheBorderPaul
but not deep, critical thinking.

Now hot girl on girl action....hell, that gets the wheels turnin'!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:32 AM
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11. Oh, I know
:7
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:35 AM
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13. Do enlighten us...
oh, wise one. :sarcasm:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:11 AM
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22. Then I wouldn't be the only one, now would I?
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:15 AM
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23. If you will not agree to disclose what you know,
then I have no alternative but to tase you.



By the way, Debi, that flannel shirt really brings out your eyes.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:32 AM
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30. flattery will get you nowhere....
now, up the voltage -
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:35 AM
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14. Tomorrow Never Knows
Turn off your mind, relax
and float down stream
It is not dying.....
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:36 AM
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15. That's easily the best Ringo song. (nt)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:39 AM
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16. I thought I knew, but I didn't...
and damn, am i glad that i was wrong! :bounce:
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:47 AM
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17. Indeed, all knowledge is wrong.
You were right to question your convictions and to submit to what you know to be true....nothing! :straightenstie:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:48 AM
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18. hahaha
you're not only gorgeous, you're funny too! :loveya:
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:59 AM
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20. How sweet of you to say so....
but flattery will not affect your grade. There are means of persuasion however. Please see me during office hours.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:51 AM
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19. As the great philosopher Rummy has said:
as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:02 AM
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21. I am not familiar with works of the so-called "great philosopher Rummy,"
but from the quote above, I surmise he is a complete dullard....and is therefore fit to occupy a position of great power.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:16 AM
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24. I sure don't.
:wtf:

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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:19 AM
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25. Oh sweet Jesus...
:puke:

Sadly, you will receive failing marks for your lack of insight. See me during office hours if you'd like to "discuss" your grade.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:21 AM
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26. Lack of insight my ass!
That picture illustrates your query PERFECTLY!

I'll take the F, on principle. :)
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:30 AM
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28. Hmmmmm....
Perhaps I underestimated you.....






Nope, I was right. Fail. :clearsthroatinsuperciliousmanner:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:21 AM
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27. oh good god.
Now I'm gonna have to find another pic to get that one outta my head.

:rofl:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:30 AM
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29. Other.
Some people know they know.
Others know they don't know.
Others don't know they don't know.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:32 AM
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31. A brilliant line of quasi-thoughtful reasoning
You have won my approval. :condescendinglypatsstudentonhead:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:36 AM
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32. That reminds me
from On Certainty

2. From its seeming to me - or to everyone - to be so, it doesn't follow that it is so.
What we can ask is whether it can make sense to doubt it.

3. If e.g. someone says "I don't know if there's a hand here" he might be told "Look closer". - This possibility of satisfying oneself is part of the language-game. Is one of its essential features.

4. "I know that I am a human being." In order to see how unclear the sense of this proposition is, consider its negation. At most it might be taken to mean "I know I have the organs of a human". (E.g. a brain which, after all, no one has ever yet seen.) But what about such a proposition as "I know I have a brain"? Can I doubt it? Grounds for doubt are lacking! Everything speaks in its favour, nothing against it. Nevertheless it is imaginable that my skull should turn out empty when it was operated on.

5. Whether a proposition can turn out false after all depends on what I make count as determinants for that proposition.

6. Now, can one enumerate what one knows (like Moore)? Straight off like that, I believe not. - For otherwise the expression "I know" gets misused. And through this misuse a queer and extremely important mental state seems to be revealed.

7. My life shows that I know or am certain that there is a chair over there, or a door, and so on. - I tell a friend e.g. "Take that chair over there", "Shut the door", etc. etc.

8. The difference between the concept of 'knowing' and the concept of 'being certain' isn't of any great importance at all, except where "I know" is meant to mean: I can't be wrong. In a law-court, for example, "I am certain" could replace "I know" in every piece of testimony. We might even imagine its being forbidden to say "I know" there.

9. Now do I, in the course of my life, make sure I know that here is a hand - my own hand, that is?

10. I know that a sick man is lying here? Nonsense! I am sitting at his bedside, I am looking attentively into his face. - So I don't know, then, that there is a sick man lying here? Neither the question nor the assertion makes sense. Any more than the assertion "I am here", which I might yet use at any moment, if suitable occasion presented itself. - Then is "2x2=4" nonsense in the same way, and not a proposition of arithmetic, apart from particular occasions? "2x2=4" is a true proposition of arithmetic - not "on particular occasions" nor "always" - but the spoken or written sentence "2x2=4" in Chinese might have a different meaning or be out and out nonsense, and from this is seen that it is only in use that the proposition has its sense. And "I know that there's a sick man lying here", used in an unsuitable situation, seems not to be nonsense but rather seems matter-of-course, only because one can fairly easily imagine a situation to fit it, and one thinks that the words "I know that..." are always in place where there is no doubt, and hence even where the expression of doubt would unintelligible.

11. We just do not see how very specialized the use of "I know" is.

12. - For "I know" seems to describe a state of affairs which guarantees what is known, guarantees it as a fact. One always forgets the expression "I thought I knew".

. . . much more

http://budni.by.ru/oncertainty.html
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:41 AM
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33. You extra credit work will serve you well, swag.
C+
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:11 PM
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34. I know one thing
I got the CD in the mail today, and will be adding more somngs to the overnight show:)
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:01 PM
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35. Dude, you da' man!!!
A+ for you, laddy!
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