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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:03 PM
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Religion And Politics
I came across this piece, originally written by Scott Beach, in 1979, and is meant to be HEARD, really, rather than read...it is an axample of fast-patter...but I found it amazing how close he got, in 1979, to describing the social and political climate...and the level of civility discussions about religion and politics maintain...in our current culture.

Religiona And Politics
By Scott Beach (1979)
(to be read outloud in one breath)

Religion and politics often make some people lose all
perspective and give way to ranting and raving and carrying
on like emotional children they either refuse to discuss it
with reason or else they prefer argumentum ad homeinem which
is a hell of a way to conduct a discussion well anyhow not
long ago I was talking about the elections and how the
campaigns were ignoring the issues and sticking instead
to invective and personal crap that had nothing to do
with the substantive problems of running a government
which is all true as you know if you followed the speeches
and so called debates of the candidates anyhow one of the
guys I was talking with said not a word in the whole
conversation except at the end when he suddenly chuckled
and said we were all full of **** and why didn't we all go
live in Russia or China if that was the way we all hated
the United States of America next thing you know the whole
blooming discussion is more like a brawl and the epithets flew
thick and fast and the noise was incredible someone said "son of
a bitch" and I think he said "bastard" I couldn't be sure it was
all so confusing well anyhow I was attempting to get it all
back on a rational level I tried for example to talk to the
one who had started it all and I asked him just what did he
mean we were all full of **** was he making a statement of
fact as he knew it and where was his documentation to back
up his claim I think Socrates would have been proud of the
way I refuted his argument that is I tried to refute it but
all he could offer by way of rebuttal was more of the same
about how we were all full of **** but he wouldn't say why
he just kept on repeating it that and the part about Russia
and China and Communist dupes and I'll have to confess that
I got a bit angry and told him to stuff his ideas up his ass
which you don't have to tell me is hardly a way to convince
anyone in an argument then he got salty and threatened to
give me a punch in the mouth if I didn't shut up and I really
got hot and the others did too and we all beat the **** out
of Mr. Conservative and after all he had only himself to be
blamed this is still a free country and anyone telling a
fellow like me "brother you're full of ****" better be
good and ready to answer politely when asked if he'd care
to say why!"
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Skelington Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:08 PM
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1. "Two great tastes........that taste like crap together". or,
was that peanut butter and chocolate ?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:33 PM
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2. I remember hearing this
on a Dr Demento show nearly 20 years ago...
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:02 AM
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3. Yep.
Dr. Demento DID play this a number of times on his show.
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