Four Vikings Charged in Boat Scandal

[AngryAmish]

<http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=1409538>

" Quarterback Daunte Culpepper and three other Minnesota Vikings were charged Thursday with three misdemeanors each for taking part in a bawdy boat party earlier this season on Lake Minnetonka.

Culpepper, Bryant McKinnie, Fred Smoot and Moe Williams were charged with indecent conduct, disorderly conduct and lewd or lascivious conduct, according to court papers.

Prosecutor Steve Tallen's decision was based on findings by the Hennepin County sheriff's office, whose investigators reviewed allegations of lewd and drunken behavior aboard a floating party Oct. 6 that involved some Vikings players.

Crew members complained that some people took off their clothes and engaged in public sex acts during the cruise, according to Stephen Doyle, an attorney representing the boat owners, Al & Alma's Supper Club and Charter Cruises in Mound. The crew members identified 17 Vikings among about 90 people on the two boats. "


All I gotta say, as a Bears fan, is hahahahaha!

[oregonindy]

1. and you ijits who keep giving money to corporate ball are they ones footin

the bill.

hahahahahahahaha.....

[SpiralHawk]

2. This is another vile volley in the War Against Xmas !

Or then again, maybe not.

[hatrack]

3. I had this image of a bunch of guys with horned helmets and bearskins . .

Whew - what a relief - just pro athletes humpin' and bumpin' in public!

:eyes:

[Pirate Smile]

12. After the pirates attacking the cruise ship, I initially thought we had

vikings attacking boats as well.

:yoiks:

[KittyWampus]

17. I am so glad you, of all DU'ers, posted that!

:rofl: I mean your name is Pirate Smile :)

[Demeter]

4. For A Moment, I Thought Real Vikings and Longboats

Just goes to show how sports minded I am not.

[aquart]

7. See? So did I.

[AnneD]

10. Me too....

then I thought, well duh, what else are Vikings suppose to do, crochet Christmas dollies? Guess Spam has replaced lutefish (mental note-never eat fish with cream sauce again-esp if surrounded but drunken Swedes, Norwegians, or the Finnish).

[Missy Vixen]

15. Watch out for the Swedish relatives

>never eat fish with cream sauce again-esp if surrounded but drunken Swedes, Norwegians, or the Finnish<

Ah, you've experienced the trauma that is lutefisk... :scared: My father's side is Swedish and, well, delighted in foisting truly nasty food items on small children. To this day, I pass the smorgasbord at IKEA and have flashbacks.

Julie

[Demeter]

18. All My Swedish Ex-In-Laws Are Dead

Survival is the ultimate winning position.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

28. Lutefisk:

The Piece of Cod that passes all understanding. ;-)

[AnneD]

30. Thanks...

I wasn't sure of the spellin, but sure of the smellin....

[JVS]

32. The look of revulsion and betrayal on their tiny little faces is such...

a reminder of the innocence of childhood.

My second cousin had a baby daughter about a month ago, and in just a few years we will be able to pass of strange scandinavian (Our Grandmothers were both Swedish, and were best friends) fish on that child! Oh what joy it will be!

[xchrom]

13. i'm in the amen chorus...

[MaineDem]

19. They needed a cloak invisible

(Obscure movie reference.)

But I thought about real Vikings too.

[snooper2]

21. I did the as well...

Starting thinking about where they would be living in the World... :eyes:

[daleo]

24. I thought Hagar the Horrible might have scammed Lucky Eddie.

I hope I got those names right.

[cmd]

53. Me, too

I just thought, so what, that's what Vikings did - along with every other civilization at the time.

[MrMonk]

5. "Performing lewd and sexually suggestive acts with a can of Spam"

[SpiralHawk]

9. "Whatever floats your boat (in private)" - Secret Republican motto

[Qanisqineq]

6. .

Daunte, thought you said you were completely innocent?

:spank:

[Ian David]

8. Bloody vikings!

[Sandpiper]

11. What a heinous crime

A bunch of grown men drinking and having consensual sex with grown women.


Who's going to judge the case, Cotton Mather?


:eyes:

[Rambis]

14. Vikings fan but...

sex acts with prostitutes in front on minors is a big deal in anyone's book. Not all the employees were 21 which isn't mentioned here.

Stephen Doyle, the attorney representing Al & Alma's, said sex acts were performed in front of employees, and many of the employees were fearful for their safety. The boat captains decided to end the cruise early and turn around because of the activities.


Bud Grant where are you? Bear fan you are one a done if you make the playoffs. Orton can't win you a playoff game.

[myrna minx]

25. And,,,if you are a small cocktail waitress

who is there to to her job, where do you run to if you become "interesting" to a 400lbs linebacker? I don;t care if football players cavort with hookers, but the harassment of the staff on the boat is nothing that anyone should have to go through.

[TrogL]

16. I think the problem was where, not with whom

[SoCalDem]

27. Sex has never before occured on a boat??

Rich, athletic guys with money having sex with cute, willing women... I don't see the "outrageous crime" angle here..:shrug:

It's not like the women were kidnapped from a middle school, drugged and spirited away on the high seas..

[LisaL]

40. Never mind they did it in front of boat workers, some of them

under age. Those boat workers did not sign up for the peep show. The vikings aren't charged with rape either, so your comment about middle school kidnapped girls doesn't make sense.

[SoCalDem]

41. I think they were stupid to think they could get away with it,

but the boat company had to knwo that things would get crazy.. Shame on them for having underage workers, and shame on the owner of the boat for not asking more questions and using better judgement when it comes to renting out his boat..
I was surprised when the whole thing happened, that the boat was rented..It;s not like these guys are paupers..

This stuff happens all the time.. and the stupidity of it always gets me.. When we lived in Indiana, a bunch of COPS got busted for having "naked swim parties" with underage girls no less...where did they have these parties?? The Howard Johnson's indoor pool.. Stupidity is not limited to jocks..

[Sandpiper]

42. How underage are we talking about?

Under 21, or under 18?

[DemonFighterLives]

50. These boats were usually rented for the cruise and food and cocktails

It was never meant to be an orgy boat.
As a Minnesotan, the team was doing terrible at the time and for them to go out and act like a bunch of drunken druggy sex crazed maniacs was sickenting.
Apparently it signaled that the they were out of control.
I'm glad some got busted and more probably should have.
They made the whole state hold their heads in shame and I don't have a problem with drinking or sex.
:beer:

[0007]

20. whoopeee!

[Beausoir]

33. You are wrong.

The old "boys will be boys" crap doesn't work here.

What these "men" did was disgusting and illegal. Several young women were terrified that they were going to be sexually assaulted by these over size, overpaid pigs.

I am Minnesotan and a Vikings fan and I am outraged at what took place.

[Sandpiper]

43. Yes, and here are their disgusting and illegal acts

From the charging document:

Daunte Culpepper - Got a Lap Dance

Moe Williams - Got a Lap Dance

Bryant McKinnie - Gave Oral and Got a BJ

Fred Smoot - Used a two-headed dildo on two women



Oh the humanity.



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1215051vikings1.html



Now the latter two I could see as being over the line, but the first two? Big deal.

[Beausoir]

47. I'm glad you came around to my point of view.

Way over the line indeed.

[MN ChimpH8R]

48. Getting a lap dance is pretty small beer

criminally speaking. If they'd done it at Deja Vu instead of on a hired boat out in the middle of a lake, it would never have ever been heard about. Tempest in a teapot as far as Daunte and Moe go.

[Beausoir]

51. You are leaving out a few facts.

Nice try though. The Vikings need more apologists.

[MN ChimpH8R]

65. Not an apologist

but the real issue here is not WHAT was done, as there is no question that the participants were consenting adults, but WHERE it was done. These idiots should have rented a room in a strip club rather than a boat on which a bunch of teenage servers were working.

[KitchenWitch]

58. A little known fact is that it is illegal to give and receive oral sex

in the state of Minnesota...It is one of those antiquated laws that never seems to come off the books.

[MN ChimpH8R]

64. I believe that statute came off the books

a few years ago when it was declared unconstitutional and the state AG and Governor Jesse had no interest in challenging the district court's decision. I don't think it was ever appealed to the Minn. SCT. Also, The SCOTUS declared Texas' "sodomy" law unconstitutional a few years back - that was that got the reichwingers ready to string up Justice Kennedy.

[alarcojon]

22. As a Packers fan, I am so tempted to gloat

but I don't think there is anything different about the Vikings here. It could have, unfortunately, been any football team - probably any professional sports team.

[hippiechick]

34. As a <former> Packers fan, and Green Bay native ...

... I have to agree completely with you.

Many, many incidents of drunken lewd oogling, grabbing, groping, cat-calling, following women into the ladies' room, dance floor and parking lot (simulated and real) sex that went on at Lothario's, Sebastians and Top Shelf over the years ...

[MadisonProgressive]

38. a Packer fan?????

Watch it, you might get kicked out of the state if you say that too loud!

[hippiechick]

45. I'm already out.

Been living in Indiana for about 5 years.

HippieKid's dad played for the Pack in 90-91.
Or should I say, sat on the bench for the Pack in 90-91. ;)



:hi:

[MsAnthropy]

23. Will they have to register as sex offenders now?

[AnneD]

31. Only if...

they intend to go grocery shopping ;)

[Karmakaze]

26. Ok so let me get this straight...

19 Vikings were among 90 people on those two boats, yet only four were charged, and they were all black?

Hmmm....

[Bacchus39]

29. so???

maybe they were the guilty ones

[Karmakaze]

62. No women? No one else at all?

Just four black men getting their freak on with each other while everyone else stood around horrified?

Ummm ok...

[KitchenWitch]

63. All of the teammates on the boats were unwilling to talk to police

therefore none of the women were charged.

[shantipriya]

35. Vikings

So what? Why should anyone be surprised.After all, most pro-sports player are sex maniacs who have hundreds of ready and willing women to satisfy their sex needs.

[MsAnthropy]

36. It is an annual event--they just got caught this year

They are rich enough to buy their own boat to party on--why they had to hire one and expose the hired help to their behavior is incomprehensible.

[MadisonProgressive]

37. As a Packer fan I second the HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

[Beausoir]

39. As a Vikings fan I say......Convicted Rapist Green Bay Packer Mossy Cade.

May 23 - Cornerback Mossy Cade of the Packers is found guilty on two counts of second-degree sexual assault in Brown County circuit court. Cade assaulted a woman who was an overnight guest in his De Pere home in November, 1985. (Cade served one year and three months of a two-year sentence and was released in 1988.)

People who live in glass houses..........

[MadisonProgressive]

44. That was a LONG time ago and we fired his ass immediately

Are you going to dump Culpepper? I thought not...

[Beausoir]

46. How can I fire Culpepper?

Please tell me. I would love to see him fired for this.

I wasn't aware I had that power.

[Left Is Write]

56. Don't you know that as a Vikings fan...

you are responsible for everything the players and the organization do?

[LiberalFighter]

59. Self Delete

[Left Is Write]

55. Two words: Mark Chmura.

[LiberalFighter]

60. Chmura had sex with a 17 year old babysitter

and had planned to run as a Republican

MARK CHMURA, FRM. GREEN BAY PACKER: I have disappointed many, many people, and for that I am truly sorry. I promise you nothing like this will ever happen again.

No Packers appeared in court as a character witness for Chmura, even in Wisconsin, where fans bleed Packer green and want Vince Lombardi made a saint. The basic questions remain unanswered, what was Chmura doing at a friend’s house during an after-high school prom party? Why was the friend serving alcohol to minors? What did Chmura do with that young girl?

[MrScorpio]

49. Only in America

What is the big deal?

[fishnfla]

57. Scorpio-the deal is

there were young female employees on the boat. They weren't there to party, just doing their job. Some of the stuff going on there wasn't in their job description.

[Beausoir]

52. So many apologists here. Very telling.

And we wonder why professional sports programs are out of control.

What the Vikings players did was NOT acceptable behavior. They were using dildos on naked prostitutes, in public, in front of young female employees who were very offended and frightened.

We should certainly expect more from grown men.

This has nothing to do with sexuality, yours or mine. It has to do with decency and obeying the laws.

Whether or not a few men on this thread wish they were there to watch is beside the point.

Exposing young women to this kind of filth and frightening them with out of control sexual behavior is wrong.

At least it is in the state of Minnesota. Fortunately.

[Maestro]

61. Have to agree

What they did was arrogant and selfish. To do this in front of others, especially the dildo adventure, when they were not expecting this is wrong. If they wanted to party like this consentually with others, do so behind closed doors not on a deck of a boat.

[Left Is Write]

54. Al & Alma's?

I went on one of their cruises once.

A propos of nothing, really. Just happened to think of it.