It's SENATOR Clinton, not Mrs. Clinton!

[mykpart]

Regardless of whether you want her to run for Pres., doesn't it chap your ass how the reporters & pundits refer to her as Mrs. Clinton? Imagine saying Mr. Hatch or Dr. Frist. They can't stand to call her Senator!

[Rabrrrrrr]

1. Well, just to play devil's advocate, they also say Mr. Fuckstick a lot.

Of course, they use that Fuckstick's real name, but I refuse to type it.

The son of the first President Bush. I hear him referred to as "Mr." a lot in the various media, and not "President".

[DS1]

3. Yep

Peter Jennings used to do that a lot.
Drove the FReepers mad.

[Left Is Write]

16. They're so selective about their madness!

I'll bet it didn't bother them when Peter Jennings said "Mr. Kerry."

[Orangepeel]

4. American media?

I'm surprised. It seems like something I would have noticed and I haven't.

[Rabrrrrrr]

7. I've noticed a lot in the last year or so

Of course, it's only been in the last year that I've watched TV, but I've seen it in print a lot as well. Even in the same articles it might be "president fuckstick" once and then "Mr. Fuckstick" later.

And once I started noticing it with Fuckstick, I started noticing it with all politicians.

I think it's the infernally damnable "familiarization" of America, removing the respect of using titles, just like the asshole sales clerks and waiter/waitresses who call me by my first name when I use a credit card and don't call me by title-lastname.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

8. Hear hear!!

"I think it's the infernally damnable "familiarization" of America, removing the respect of using titles, just like the asshole sales clerks and waiter/waitresses who call me by my first name when I use a credit card and don't call me by title-lastname."

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. Thanks!

I'm sick of this "I'm your best friend!" fucking bullshit. No you aren't, you are a sales clerk/teenager/telemarketer/worker-guy. You are providing me a service, and you will do it with respect; just like I will respectfully refer to you as "sir" or "ma'am" until we've established that I can call you by your name.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

13. Beautiful!!

:bounce:

It's so funny that they believe they are making a friend of you or something.

[Orangepeel]

12. that's actually a very good sign

remember a few years ago, some reporter called him "sir" and "Mr. Fuckstick" went ballistic. If the media are getting brave enough to poke him with that stick, maybe they'll keeping edging further.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

2. I'll stand up for her when she stands for me.

:popcorn:

[mykpart]

5. Don't get me wrong - I'm not a big Hil fan,

but I do really LOVE the fact that the freepers hate her so much. That's her best quality! And it's not really sticking up for someone when you simply address them by the title that they have earned.

[Oeditpus Rex]

6. In journalism, titles are generally used only on first reference

Such as "Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger" and "Rep. Nancy Pelosi." Thereafter it's just "Schwarzenegger" and "Pelosi."

In Clinton's case, "Mrs." would be used to differentiate her from the Big Dawg. But if it's clear she's the subject, "Clinton" is sufficient.

But if you're talking about teevee, those people have no rules.

[mykpart]

9. Yeah, I was mostly talking about TV,

and I think they do it on purpose. I first noticed it when Bill Clinton was impeached, and the year leading up to it. All the TV guys would refer to him as "Mr. Clinton." As for familiarization, try calling your doctor by his or her first name and see what happens.

[Oeditpus Rex]

11. Do you get upset with the New York Times?

It's its and other papers' style to use "Mr.," "Mrs.," "Ms." et al on second reference with everyone.

[mykpart]

14. I suppose I would if

I read the New York Times.

[Floogeldy]

15. She is both.

It isn't a big fucking deal.

[ChipsAhoy]

17. Good observation

I'll be looking for that from now on.

[ScreamingMeemie]

18. It's why I call "him" Mr. Bush.

As a sign of disrespect...and it does chap my ass when they reserve that for her...but I do mostly hear Sen. Clinton.

[eyesroll]

19. It depends on the context -- but it bugs the crap out of me when

they call her "Hillary" or "Hill" in a headline. A common journalistic standard is -- would you use the same construction for a man? If so, it's OK. If not, it's not.

And I can't imagine a reputable newspaper putting "Rudy to run!" in a headline, unless it was a quote.
(Tabloids, sure.)