May as well just kill myself right now

[Susang]

Banana Republic now carries a size double zero for those gals whose size 0s are just too damn big! :eyes:

http://www.bananarepublic.com/browse/product.do?cid=12069&pid=362037

This must be a new development, since they don't even have measurements for it on the size chart. I guess if you have to ask, you're just not their market.

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. That's just insane.

Super insane. Really crazy insane. I had a friend who didn't fit into the "bigger" 0's so she would shop junior's or even (sometimes) wear a girl's size 16...sigh.

[Debi]

2. I used to wear the size 0 jeans - now there's a 1 in front of that 0

Oh, to be young with a high metabolism again :sigh:

[regnaD kciN]

50. As long as there isn't a 1 in front of the 00...

...who cares?

;-)

[Susang]

7. Wow

What the hell are we letting these companies do to our heads? :shrug:

You know, the first thing I do when I buy clothes now is cut out the size tags. I wear what fits and I don't want to define myself by what number the company assigns to that.

[GirlinContempt]

9. By cutting out the tag

aren't you sort of confirming that the number means something?

[Susang]

13. Obviously it does matter

Otherwise why would Banana Republic be sizing their clothing this way? By cutting out the number, I feel that I'm removing the value the company has assigned to it. If you can ignore the emotional baggage that comes along with clothing sizes that's great. Not everyone has that talent and this is the easiest way I've found to deal with the issue.

[Bunny]

3. My oldest daughter wears a size Double Zero.

She did NOT get that from me! :D

[supernova]

4. My best friend in college wore a size 1

She's the absolute littlest person I've ever met.

[LeftyMom]

5. Catering to the tweak demographic?

My Mom wore a 00 when she was back when she was tweaking. She was 5'7" and under 100 lbs. Not a pretty sight, but speed freaks need clothes too and it's certainly a growing demographic. :shrug:

[Susang]

6. The thing is

There's no such size! A double zero doesn't exist! Next they're going to use negative numbers, it's insane!

Last time I was at my parents I took out some clothes I had in storage from the late 70s/early 80s when I was ridiculously skinny. They were size 2s or 3/4s. I compared them to my younger sister's clothing, some of which are zeros and my clothes were smaller!

It's a big scam to make people think they're thinner than they really are. I want no part of the brainwashing. x(

[miss_american_pie]

10. Vanity sizing

It's hard to find companies that aren't doing that these days.

[AngryAmish]

35. ding ding

[LeftyMom]

11. Yeah, size inflation is definitely an issue.

I was a 6 before I had LK. He's almost 5 and I'm a 6 again, but I weigh 10 lbs more and almost all of it settled in my hips and butt. There's *no freakin' way* the same pants I wore pre-pregnancy would fit, I probably couldn't pull them all the way on, let alone zip them up, but I got fatter at a slower rate than the rest of American society so my pants size stayed the same size. Also, the same style of underwear I've worn since high school is too big now and I'm the smallest normal size! What the hell do really thin people have to do, buy thier undies in the little girl's department?

[MissB]

22. Isn't that size "deflation"?

[tigereye]

21. yup

and 12-14, which includes most average women, are "large or extra large." It's incredibly annoying.

I like Chicos, they do it 0,1 and 2.

[Arkansas Granny]

37. How right you are about changing the sizing. When I was in

high school way back in the 60's I wore a size 12 dress and was considered to be quite slender. Now, 40 years older and 25 pounds heavier I wear size 8 jeans. Does that make sense to you? They've done something to shoe sizes, too. Since I was 12 years old I have worn a size 9 shoe, but over the last couple of years I have had to buy size 10 and can't get my foot into a 9. My old size 9 shoes still fit so I'm pretty sure my feet haven't grown.

[GirlinContempt]

8. My sister bought a 00 in the US once

Your sizes are so weird. Everything fits way bigger. Good for the ego ;P

[Nikia]

12. The unfortunate things is that it perpetuates "smaller is better"

Whether or not the sizing system has changed or the clothing is really smaller, girls and women think that it is better to be a lower number even if they are at a normal or lower than normal weight. Unfortunately, some women, especially when fully grown, will never be able to be "0" or "00" even if they were literally skeletons due to their bone structure. Even more women would be unhealthy if they if they wore that small of a size.
We are so numbers driven about our weights and sizes (I don't think that it is just people with ED). I don't think that most men are so concerned about their size and weight unless they are obese. A man who was an equivalent of a size 6 wouldn't really want to fit into a smaller and smaller size.

[Midlodemocrat]

14. I think it is just to get the younger girls to buy their clothes.

Personally. My daughter wears a double 00 in gap, br, aeropostale, etc., but she could certainly wear a 1 or 2 in Target, Kohl's, etc. I think they are just trying to attract a younger, and by default, perhaps smaller, crowd.

[stanwyck]

29. I agree. It's marketing.

women feel much better about themselves when they wear small sizes. We're superior...when we're smaller. We brag about how we can get into a size _______. Personally, I have 3 sizes of jeans in my closets. I can wear all three sizes. It's a game manufacturers play. And I've been guilty of buying jeans or pants I really wasn't that crazy about because they were a size smaller than I usually wear.
Stupid. But that's the psychology behind the 00.

[Nikia]

30. I think those sizes may be more appropriate to young girls

Who haven't changed into full grown women. Not only do women tend to have different fat distribution than girls in their early teens, we also do grow our frames in spots like our shoulders and hips.

[GOPisEvil]

15. What kinda twig do you have to be to wear size 00?

Women who tell they wear a 4 look tiny to me. :wow:

[In_The_Wind]

16. me too

[Callalily]

17. This thread is quite

disturbing to me! When I tell guys (and others) that I weigh 127 (yes who would lie about that weight), I sense that they think I'm fat. I work out a lot, and feel that I can't be in the competition mode unless I'm at least 125, or I loose too much muscle. I'm totally happy with my physic, I'm comfortable where I'm at. I feel bad for those that do not! Oh btw, I'm a rower.

[GOPisEvil]

18. If you're a rower, then you've got muscles.

I think a lot of guys are threatened by the fact that you can probably kick their ass. :D

[Midlodemocrat]

19. Good for you that you are happy with yourself.

More power to you.


:bounce:

[XemaSab]

20. Watching the olympics

I noticed that the women were all what would be considered OBESE for a model or an actress, like 5'6" and 135 lbs, but they all looked good and you KNOW they're in good shape. Our ideas about what's heavy are pretty out of touch with reality.

[Robb]

24. Bear in mind

Most men have no idea what women weigh, or should weigh, or what is a lot or a little for a woman.

We're rather clueless, as a group. :)

[Wetzelbill]

36. that's a great weight

who would think that is fat? Unless you're 2 feet tall or something. I swear, women have to deal with the biggest BS ever. You must be relatively muscular I would think. Especially in your back and shoulders, which I think is great I love that look. Going any lower you're losing your strength etc. I'm a former wrestler, I used to cut an alarming amount of weight, and I can tell you this, it works if you have time to recover and you're in shape, but it doesn't work if you don't allow yourself to gain it back. As a rower if you were to constantly diet and be losing weight, you could never compete at your best level. You couldn't do it. It's good that you're comfortable with that.

[Shine]

23. That is ridiculous.

what bullshit. Don't even get me started...... :eyes:

[khashka]

25. It's sick

and perpetuates the cultural idea that only skinny women are attractive.

Of course petite women need clothes that fit, too. But almost every woman I know is dieting. And none of 'em are really fat! It drives me crazy!

Khash.

[Oeditpus Rex]

26. This is getting a bit of use lately

But it's always appropriate.

[BlueStorm]

27. Oooh can I use that in my sig for now?

Hell I'm taking it! Thanks Rex!

Blu

[NickB79]

33. Mmmmmmm

That's nice :evilgrin:

[grace0418]

49. O Res, BlueStorm, Nick...

I love you all! :)

[hfojvt]

28. Do you mean

they still do not have a size small enough for you?

That's gotta be a bummer.

[Xipe Totec]

31. I think I just found their target market (warning - graphic)

Double zero should be a perfect fit for the Mummies of Guanajuato.



http://poetry.rotten.com/momias/

[redwitch]

32. Have you seen the movie "real women have curves"?

Fabulous movie about women and self image. I highly recommend it!

[Wetzelbill]

34. nothing like the realistic beauty standards set for women

Don't you know you all should be pixie stix? C'mon! It's not that hard!

[Ellen Forradalom]

38. You may as well kill me right now

because I need that size. That's because they scaled their sizes WAY UP. Their 0 is what a 4 or even 5 used to be.

Ever since I bought a skirt from them that hangs off me, I've been asking everyone I know (as well as Banana Republic clerks, who shake their heads in understanding), "What the fuck are people smaller than me going to wear?" Well, now I have the answer.

[madrchsod]

39. double zero in petites?

a few years ago my daughter could fit into double 00 but now she claims since she`s gain 5 lbs she`s getting fat..115!

[ismnotwasm]

40. There are certain cultures and ethnic backgrounds

Of women that are really quite tiny. I've seen very tiny Vietnamese and Cambodian women for instance. I'm sure standard American sizing does NOT fit them at all. We continue to to be the great melting pot. I live in an area with a very high pan-Asian population, and some women are just tiny. (Not that you have to be from an Asian culture to be tiny!)

I agree with the manipulation of sizing in general, however.. Bought a pair of pants--Levi's no less, at Target at a size I most definetly AM NOT (4) The whole thing would be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic.

[NC_Nurse]

41. one of my daughters wears double zero

it's a phenomenon caused by the fattening of America. Companies have increased the actual size of each size number, so truly petite women's sizes have practically become negative numbers! She is 5'3" and weighs around 105lbs. She has never dieted or had eating issues.
She's just petite, unlike her sister and me. I went straight from girls 14 to a 9-10 in juniors....sigh. Of course those were the anorexic, deeply tanned 1970's so I felt like a beached white whale! :D I look back on the pics of me then and think DAMN! I was pretty hot!

[Starlight]

42. Vanity sizing has sized many petite women out of clothing lines.

There is a demand for small sizes and I'm glad to see more manufacturers acknowledging it. :thumbsup:

[mdmc]

43. you poor girls

my friend was a size zero, now I think she is an 8...but happy.

Guys are lucky. We just need to go to war and make money...have hair and a hard on.

You poor girls.

[blondeatlast]

46. OOPS--self-delete, meant to reply to the OP. nt

[samplegirl]

44. I dont want to make anyone mad in this post.

Im petite and have a hell of a time finding jeans
that fit right.
I was just born with a very small frame. I wish I was bigger it would be easier to buy jeans.

The problem is everything that they make petite
is geared towards super low rise or teenie-bopper
looking crap.

I use to literally jump for joy when I could find
a size 1 jean.

[blondeatlast]

45. Suggestion: Check out Newport News online (URL follows)

They make fashionable jeans in petite, regular, and tall sizes made for women, not juniors. I'm a size 4 and couldn't find jeans long enough for me in my size in the stores. I received a catalog from them once and gave it a shot--perfect fit and they come in dozens of colors--and very affordable.

Edit--the URL would be helpful--sorry!

http://www.newport-news.com/

[samplegirl]

47. thanks will

have a look.

[BlueIris]

52. I'm ultra-petite, too. Born that way. Finding pants that fit is hard.

So I look like a dork in most clothing.

[blondeatlast]

48. Size deflation--my 10 lb. loss yielded a me a FOUR size reduction?!

I've gone from a size TWELVE--to a size FOUR with just a 10 lb loss? I don't think so.

I can understand dropping one or two dress sizes with a 10 lb. loss, but 4 dress sizes?
I used to sell high end clothing and they traditionally deflated sizes for ego's sake, but this has happened in the lowest markets like Target (higher end apparel I can go down yet one size more).

I'm not bragging--I get a lot of crap about my weight too. The loss was due to a health issue--I didn't try to lose it; but now people who knew me then and now think I look unhealthy--but I'm not.

[SoCalDem]

51. It's just vanity sizing..to prove to them that all the puking was worth it

For AGES..sizing was fairly standardized according to measurements, and somewhere during the 80's everything went haywire..


Here's a challenge to those reed-thin double zeros (in more ways than one)..

Order a vintage suit from ebay or an oldies site.. Order it in linen, wool, or cotton-sateen.. Order a size EIGHT or a SIX..

hint:

Those skirts were STRAIGHT..no elastic.just zipper and an unforgiving button.. Those jackets were not "comfort-cut".. They were TAILORED..

same goes for pants... My aunt had a specialty shop during the 50s to the 80's.. I worked for her all through my teens and ordered the youthful stuff.. We had a line of slacks called fem-Forms. They were the best fitting slacks on earth and were sized kind of like men's pants.. waist, inseam..

anyway.. a 23 inch waist and a 33" hip was a size TEN... (that's measuring the BIGGEST part of the butt):evilgrin:

The couture stuff we ordered was always at downsized at LEAST 2 sizes , because if they were willing to pay the extra cash, flattery was a part of the price :)

We had a size chart from Ship & Shore in our fitting rooms.. pretty telling

30...22...32...size 8
32...23...33...size 10
34...24...34...size 12
36...26...36...size 14
38...28...38...size 16
40...30...40...size 18



here's a good article about it:

http://www.fitme.com/Fitme/html/PublicRelations/coverage/Vanity_Sizing_AZ_Rep_0104.htm