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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:05 PM
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Does this place exist?...
...Looking for a locale that contains a majority of the following criteria:

Location at/close to sea level where the air is nice and oxygen-rich

Decent air quality

Low humidity

Mild summers

Strict limitations on cigarette smoking in public places

Active jazz scene

Progressive/liberal populace with cosmopolitan attitudes

Any ideas?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:06 PM
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1. nevermind
Edited on Sat Feb-25-06 07:13 PM by DS1
might be a little off with that low humidity thing
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:35 PM
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2. California coast
The farther north, the more liberal. Santa Barbara to Santa Cruz or Pacifica is the general area.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:37 PM
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3. Sacramento area has a pretty jazz thing, there is a festival every year
http://www.sacjazz.com/


and we have almost no humidty but it gets wicked hot here from about april right on through early oct.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:40 PM
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4. San Francisco
All except maybe the jazz thing.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 07:42 PM
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5. Vancouver, BC
I'm not clear on the jazz scene, except that there is one. I can vouch for the low humidity, having gotten on a plane in Atlanta in mid-July, arriving YVR in the evening. Dined al fresco on Granville "Island," twenty feet from the water. No bugs, even. And the water smelled gooooooood.

Someday. Someday.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 08:58 PM
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6. San Francisco. Or better yet, across the Bay....
Tiburon (1st choice) or Mill Valley (bigger town)
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 09:00 PM
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7. we call it
woodstock, ny. or Beacon, ny. :kick:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 09:02 PM
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8. Maybe Portland OR?
Edited on Sat Feb-25-06 09:04 PM by Blue-Jay
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:36 AM
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9. Humboldt County, CA
It's humid, but it's a COOL humid.

Sorta like the opposite of a dry heat, ya know?

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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:07 AM
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14. Isn't Arcata in Humboldt County?
The. Best. Police. Log. Ever. http://www.arcataeye.com/index.shtml

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:50 AM
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17. Yes, yes it is
I personally prefer the Mill Valley, CA police log, but de gustibus. :shrug:

I also know the ex-wife of the editor of the eye, so I've heard nasty things about him. :hide:
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 09:35 PM
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31. I literally stumbled on the Eye -
a neighbor gets the paper, and I tripped over it. At any rate, the police log can be extremely funny - I wish our local police reporters had any sense of humor at all. I guarantee Fairbanks, Alaska could come up with some real winners.

I've never been to either Mill Valley or Arcata - just coincidence!!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 09:52 PM
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32. The scary part about the Eye
is that you read the Police Log with an eye towards recognizing people you know! :scared:
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 09:57 PM
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33. Shoot, Xema, I do that here with the regular cop report!!!
Finding at least 1 a week................ :P
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:42 AM
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10. active jazz scene
:rofl:

the place you describe does not exist
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:44 PM
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19. What's so funny?...
...I missed the punch line in there somewhere.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:35 PM
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21. among musicians, finding a vibrant jazz scene is a holy grail
there are few places with a good jazz scene.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 06:00 PM
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28. It seems from things I've heard...
...that things are better in some places than in others.

I think "vibrant" or "active" are relative terms. Most places have nothing, zero, zilch as far as jazz goes. No one is expecting anything like ca. 1952 52nd Street, but a town with even three or four joints is considered very active nowadays.

Along those lines, I've heard aficionados and musicians refer more kindly to New York, Chicago, Atlanta, pre-Katrina New Orleans, San Francisco, Seattle and Vancouver.

One also has to realize that musicians' standards are always going to be fairly high. What most want is a large variety of joints all filled with respectful, attentive throngs. Of course, we know that isn't too terribly likely with what is evidently an esoteric art form.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:49 AM
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11. Edmonton, Alberta
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:51 AM
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12. If you find that place let me know. I live in San Antonio Texas.
:rofl:
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:41 PM
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18. Well...
...the posters of messages # 5, 6, 7, 13, 15 & 16 seem to think they know where that is.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:54 AM
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13. Seattle n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:36 PM
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22. That was the same mistake I made - the poster is after low humidity
;-)
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 06:10 PM
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30. Low humidity can be relative...
...How is it compared to a place where the humidity averages in the 70s year 'round, and even higher in the summer?

Also, humidity itself is gauged in relative terms. Air at 90 degrees with 50% saturation holds a lot more water than 55 degree air does at the same percentage.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:46 AM
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15. Santa Barbara, California - but very expen$$$$ive
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:48 AM
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16. Amsterdam
Nice town!

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:53 PM
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20. Shhhh...we don't like to spread it around
Too many people will come. Don't tell anyone. We don't want anymore people here. Shhh...(washington state)
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:01 PM
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23. San Diego. Pay no attention to the "red" label given to it.
Its rapidly turning blue here in SD.
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:26 PM
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24. Newport, RI
They have a jazz festival every year-don't know about strict limits on smoking, though.
But-most places around here do have indoor smoking off limits now.
Summer heat doesn't seem so bad close to the shore, either.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:31 PM
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25. try Central California, on the coast
Santa Barbara, for example. Good luck!
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:36 PM
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26. Coastal climates are not really very low humidity
not compared to desert areas, anyways. The LA basin has about 40-45% humidity compared to 5% in the desert.

Also, most of the West Coast gets damp fog.

San Diego is probably your most ideal. High cost of living, though, like much of California.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 06:02 PM
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29. LA Basin is bone dry....
...compared to the Gulf Coast.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:37 PM
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27. The Maine coast is most of that---
but *I don't think* it's got any good jazz scenes.

:grr::grr:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 11:44 PM
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34. Santa Cruz, CA! It's got everything on your list and more....
:hi:


I love it here.
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