Why the hate for Steely Dan?

[Taverner]

They were an impressive group - excellent songwriting and very snarky lyrics.

They did make their play on many AM stations in the 70's, but then again so did the Stones.

[supernova]

1. I don't understand that either.

:shrug:

I love Steely Dan and most 70s prog rock for that matter.

[NNadir]

2. Great "snarky" lyrics. The critics are just a few malcontents.

Not everyone on DU has good musical taste.

I like your use of the word "snarky," btw.

[Taverner]

7. Fagen is the master of snarky

Kid Charlemagne is a good example

[WritingIsMyReligion]

15. I adore Fagen.

He's such a lovable malcontent asshole. And a fucking smart one, at that.

:D

[callous taoboy]

19. Thing is, he's very nice and low key in person-

I have a friend who ran their fanzine, MetalLeg, who managed to get me a VIP pass at a show. Met Becker and Fagan and they were both just really cool and laid back. They were in high spirits because it was the last show of the tour. Becker is funny as hell. Fagan is more introverted. It was a real honor to met them as their music has had a powerful impact on my life and it took me through some harrowing times when I was an adolescent.

Fagan's new one is a must have.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

21. You mean MORPH THE CAT?

I've got my eye on it, trust me. ;)

I would kill to meet Fagen and Becker.

:hi:

[BlackVelvetElvis]

33. Are you talking about Pete?

I met him in Chicago and he gave me his unused ticket for their 1993 show (the first concert after that long hiatus) because I was a fan (I also developed the pics that he shot from that show). He told me to print extras for myself. What a nice guy!

[Ryano42]

3. They are obviously Neocon

Scum :P

:hide:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

12. Oh, yeah, way Bushbots.

:P :P

[jukes]

4. i'm afraid they're a bit cerebral

for your average listener, but i love the Dan!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

14. They're so crafty.

;)

[jukes]

17. apsitively!

}(

[WritingIsMyReligion]

22. Woot!

:evilgrin:

[jukes]

25. OMG, not the "WOOT"

*PLEASE* don't get them started on the woot...

[Arugula Latte]

29. Yeah -- Those Dan Dissers ain't got no smarts !!!

I loves me the Dan! :thumbsup:

[JVS]

5. Some people don't know a good time if it falls on their faces and wiggles

That's why!

[KitchenWitch]

32. *snort*

:rofl:

Great visual!

[LSK]

6. who????

Im not really into classic rock like some of you guys are. I couldnt name one of their songs.

[LostinVA]

8. I can never quite get past their name... it's all I can think about

[WritingIsMyReligion]

9. Oh, I know.

:rofl::rofl:

[LostinVA]

16. I'm impressed you know that, Grasshopper... good for you!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

23. Poor William Burroughs.

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

31. You crazy Mainers...

[Taverner]

26. They said they wanted to give their band a little more thrust...

[WritingIsMyReligion]

10. 'Cause they're not some fringe indy group who's been

suppressed by "the Man"? There seems to be some serious vitriol around here for so-called "popular" groups--as if liberals are too good for those who made it, and need to support only the starving--albeit talented--musicians out there. I call bull. I'm all for helping those who haven't had "the break"--and probably won't get it, ever--but, contrary to common progressive opinion, not all who are or were "popular" suck. Just look at the 'Stones, the Beatles, Elton John, and, yes, the 'Dan.

:shrug:

[Elidor]

11. I think some people look at them as being of the same ilk as

The Eagles and Rush: extremely overproduced. I love them, myself. Some types of music are meant to be slick.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

13. I'd rather listen to a thousand hours of the 'Dan and The Eagles

than even one hour of, say, today's country-western. There are far worse so-called "musicians" to rag on than Don Fagen and Walter Becker, or Don Henley and Timothy Schmitt.

:shrug:

[warrens]

18. So slick they repel water

I don't hate them, but I sure don't understand why people who otherwise appear to have musical taste can tolerate their lite jazz music. Kenny G with vocals.

[callous taoboy]

20. Um, "Don't Take Me Alive," "Bodhisattva" are lite jazz? What are you

smoking, man, sawdust?

[WritingIsMyReligion]

24. Mmm, because "Reelin' in the Years", with that guitar, is "lite jazz."

And Steve Gadd's drum solo at the end of "Aja." An absolute bit of "lite jazz." Yeah.

;)

[Taverner]

27. The stuff is far from Kenny G my friend

The guitar solo on Aja...or the solo on Third World Man...or the syncopated bead from The Fez...

They truly introduced jazz concepts into rock...whereas Kenny G just played innocuous pap.

[maxsolomon]

28. Early Dan, fine

then they got too smooth for me. snarky lyrics aside, too AOR, MOR.

my GF knew a lot of guys in cover bands & that's all they'd listen to - drove her nuts & she got burned out on them.

[tkmorris]

30. I liked them but.........

"Hey Nineteen" made me want to go on a killing spree. Really. Seriously.