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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:09 PM
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Poll question: New Jersey
Suck or blow?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:11 PM
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1. New Jersey?
What exit?
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:12 PM
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2. Let's look at the whole state...
(Yes, Cape May and points south of AC are beautiful, albeit expensive)
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:14 PM
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3. Garden State my ass.
What a dump.
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:15 PM
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5. Exit 8a here.....
bite me




that is all.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:18 PM
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7. So, you're from Stone Harbor or Cape May CH
My wife is from N Wildwood (Anglesea)...exit 6 off the parkway.
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:19 PM
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8. OOOPS sorry...
that's my Turnpike Exit, sorry for not being more specific.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:21 PM
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9. Try Garbage State*
They have so much trash in that state they actually pay other states to take it.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:49 PM
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44. Yes, but...
would you really rather live in place that TAKES our garbage?

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:47 PM
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42. Just as a small aside...
it got the nick "Garden State" from the huge numbers of small truck farms that used to be here.

Some still are. We even have a few dairy farms left.






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nyrnyr1994 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:15 PM
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4. In between suck and blow...
Need to hear more from each side before I decide...
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:15 PM
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6. Decent album
Bad Medicine always gets my adrenalin flowing.

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:24 PM
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10. It's hallowed ground
I was born there
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:25 PM
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13. Same Here
Born in Montclair - raised outside Morristown.

Mrs. CO Liberal is from East Brunswick.
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:03 PM
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21. You can't choose where you're born
but now that you're all growed up and haired over, you CAN get out!
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:24 PM
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11. Got stranded in newark once
on my back from sailing from Martinique to Antgua. Plane was late and missed my connection back to fly-over land. They put me up in a hotel... 30 minutes of freeways and mostly run-down industrial wasteland to get ot he hotel. $10 to activate the phone. Very rude staff at the front desk, over priced drinks in the bar. The next morning I opened the curtains to see a large parking lot and beyond that a 20 ft high fencewith razor wire on top, and beyond the fence a prison. Rude people shoving into the check in/ security lines back at the airport. New Jersey exceeded my expectations. Haven't seen the rest of the state though :)
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:27 PM
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14. If you think that's bad try the Jersey shore!
Jammed packed with rude people. You have to pay to go on the beach. And everyone sounds like Joey Bottafuco! My only comment was, "So this is hell."
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:32 PM
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15. I usually break out laughing when...
I hear some Jersey or New Yorker make fun of a southerners accent...I tell them about how classy they sound with that clothes pin stuck over their nose.
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amandae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:25 PM
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12. Never been there ...
but this is where my ancestors are from ;-)

:hi:
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:35 PM
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16. Lived in North Jersey for a year
hands down the most depressing year of my life.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:43 PM
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17. Thems fighting words, people!
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 02:49 PM by tjdee
There are a LOT of people here, it is very crowded....but...
Both our senators and our governor are Democrats, and we have voted Democratic for president for at least 12 years consecutively. Many of our Republicans are in fact conservative Democrats.

Plus, we're close to New York City, the center of the universe.

From where I sit, NJ ain't so bad.

In fact, up north we even got cows. Cows are nice.

:-)

Also, I don't *have* an accent! I don't say "cawfee" or "Joisey" or anything, and neither does anyone I know. I'm constantly mystified at how people always come up to me like "New Joisey, hahaha"...I'm always like, what the f*** are you talking about? Everyone who talks funny in New Jersey is probably from New York ;-) .
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:00 PM
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20. Famous People From New Jersey
Grover Cleveland
Frank Sinatra
Connie Francis
Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
The Shirrelles ("Will You Stilll Love Me Tomorrow")
Lou Costello
Bruce Springsteen
The Happenings ("See You In September")
Alfred Vail (helped Morse invent the telegraph)

Also, Thomas Edison did most of his most important work in Menlo Park and South Orange, NJ. The Seeing Eye trains guide dogs for the blind outside Morristown. And Thomas Nast drew many of his most famous drawings (including the ones that popularized the modern image on Santa Claus) while living in Morristown.
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:01 PM
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26. You Forgot
bon Jovi

and Ken'sPen
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:21 PM
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29. And CO Liberal
and Pete Lucia - original drummer for Tommy James & The Shondells.

I'm sure there are others.......
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:38 PM
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37. And both...
Christina Aguilera and Pink

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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:51 PM
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18. The Right Armpit of America
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 02:54 PM by youngred
the land where the statewide pasttime involves duct tape, body bags and sleeping with fishes. Where the best thing to do is go to the Shore (come on its a beach for crissake, how cool can it be?). The blasted and stupid turnpike makes me wish to wretch with displeasure everytime I'm forced to use its confining confines. And what fucking dumbass decided it would be a good idea to name the rest stops after famous jerseyites? It's a fucking rest stop expensive gas, bad food, overpriced scholck and dirty bathrooms...and that's how you choose to honor the greatest residents of your state? The Garden state only if you count the pillbox gardens out people's windows and the accent is like fingernails on the chalkboard.

I could go on and on but I'll leave it at F*ck Jersey :P
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:02 PM
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33. man a screed like that can't even get a reply
I was (mostly) kidding but c'mon, aren't any jerseyites going to defend their very liberal and democratic state
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:03 PM
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34. Democratic, yes
Liberal, no.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:43 PM
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39. I defend nothing about New Jersey...
because hardly anyone has seen anything but Newark Airport, the Turnpike, the Shore, and the malls. And Atlantic City.

They are all indefensible, but help keep those nasty strangers out, or at least in their place.

We hide the good stuff.

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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:49 PM
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43. You claim to live in Washington and Rochester
and you have the nerve to say anything about NJ? The WORST thing you could say about Jersey is it reminds you of home.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:22 PM
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46. The good things about Both can't be found anywhere in NJ
Upstate - Garbage Plates, Proximity to Canada, Snow, Fall, Foliage, Apples and accompanying festivals, snow days, Abbots Ice Cream, and the Raging Rhinos

DC- Free Museums and galleries, Beautiful architecture (as well as some ugly stuff), more temperate climate, Metro, vibrant night life, and is the center of things (which Jersey isn't in anything other than Hockey every once in awhile).
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:00 PM
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19. I had to go with other
If you could only cut the Cape May part of the state away from the trulay urban areas, you might have something worth keeping.

I spent enough time there to know that I will never voluntarily reside in that state.

Since I know that the must be some good and rational people residing there, I won't pick on it too much.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:04 PM
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22. Best boss I ever had was from NJ
I know absolutely zero about NJ and am unable to proffer a "sucks" or "blows" opinion, but the best boss I ever had was a proud native of that state. He was handsome, very charming, always pleasant, gregarious. But also very loud and not the sharpest tool in the shed. Is that the norm?
:shrug:



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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:15 PM
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23. Parts suck, parts blow, and parts
are pretty darn nice. I liked the boardwalks along the beach. Wish we had stuff like that out on the Pacific coast.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:26 PM
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24. New Jersey, home of intersections with a strip-mall in each corner.
Now, don't get me wrong, there are some very pretty spots in NJ, but it seems like the whole state developed too fast. You have residences, and shopping malls, and little else in many parts. Oh, and vast colonies of old people, my grandfather included...
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:58 PM
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25. Other. It's Just Another Place
I don't hate it. I don't love it. It's Ok. We have two sites there that i visit at least once per year each. People are people, and places are places. I'm a bit jaded on the whole "great place/rotten place" thing, i guess.
The Professor
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:03 PM
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27. Is This Ron O'Neil? Or Someone with Delusions of Grandeur?
Bite me twice.

I'll a put a Princeton neighborhood up against the one you're dug in.

Your Man in the Faculty Lounge,
G.G.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:08 PM
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28. The only good...er...great thing about New Jersey
is leaving it.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:22 PM
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30. Good setting for a mafia TV show.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:25 PM
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31. I think it's more of a Reality show...
I think the Sopranos is modeled after the McGreevey administration.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:42 PM
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32. the best place on earth
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 04:43 PM by name not needed
weve got some pretty wierd places. check out www.weirdnj.com
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:11 PM
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35. the parts that suck
are either across the river from philadelphia or are by new york. everything else is pretty nice. the area i live in is nice but conservative. but no rw freeper types that give ingsoc praise 24/7
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:37 PM
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36. Not updated for a long time, but...
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:40 PM
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38. The New Jersey State Gestapo once gave me a ticket in that state
New Jersey can kiss my black ass.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:46 PM
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41. Driving while black can be a challenge in NJ. However...
my 31 year old black son says things are improving.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:44 PM
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40. Getting better all the time...
NJ has come a long way during my lifetime. Nj used to filled with rascist jerks. I don't see nearly as many rascist jerks as I used to see. NJ also has a lot to offer..... being next door to NY. :7
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:01 PM
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45. It has cheap gas and that's about it
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