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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:47 PM
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Oh shit! Oh shit! Just starting reading 1984.
Oh SHIT!

:banghead:

Stop being so damned prophetic, Eric!

:cry::cry::cry:
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:50 PM
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1. Eric? His name has always been George Orwell
*watches this joke fly over the heads of thousands*
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:55 PM
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2. Hahahahahaha.....
:rofl:

Eric Arthur Blair, of course. ;)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:07 PM
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4. I still don't get it.
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 02:08 PM by sakabatou
Wait, nevermind. Thank you wikipedia.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:06 PM
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3. Assimilate, un-person
Resistance is futile.

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:59 PM
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7. That's way doubleplusungood.
Dog, the Newspeak alone gives me a heart attack!

:scared:

:D
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:51 AM
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25. What helps with that
Is when I read it there was a glossary in the back that explained all of the newspeak. Helped me understand some of it when it got real heavy.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:26 PM
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14. Please do not conflate Orwell with Star Trek: The Next Generation sir!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:09 PM
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5. Read "Animal Farm" next
You can just visualize who some of those animals are. I'm still not sure if Squealer is Karl Rove or Rush Limbaugh; although knowing what Squealer's purpose was (to teach the sheep the new message to chant), I'm guessing it's Rush Limbaugh
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 04:01 PM
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8. I've already read FARM.
You read that in 9th grade, and 1984 in 11th grade. (I'm a sophomore in junior English). Yeah, I was freaking out at that, too. Squealer was way scary.
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 04:31 PM
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11. You're way ahead of my pace - I read 1984 last year...
I was in the 11th grade in 1975.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 04:36 PM
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12. Me too...same age
I had to reread 1984 recently, as it had been a long time
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:50 PM
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21. I had read Animal Farm 5 times by age 12. It just fascinated me.
Although I didn't "get it" until I was in high school. Because I wasn't aware of the political references to Marx & all. Kinda ruined it for me. I just thought it was about human nature.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:49 PM
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6. Two fingers or three?
Why not just give me the gun and maybe I'll shoot Big brother, er, I mean, myself...
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 04:02 PM
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9. I'm only through part one, section five.
Geesh!

:P :P

(Although I do know exactly what happens--thank you, Wikipedia and Sparknotes. :D)
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 04:07 PM
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10. Read his "Homage to Catalonia" too. (nt)
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:22 PM
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13. WIMR--if you're serious about being a writer--
--get hold somehow of the four-volume edition of Orwell's letters, essays and journalism. This is *required reading* for any would-be writer. Read it, and see what English prose should be...
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:43 PM
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16. One of those is available free online
(if not all of them)

The one where he bemoans how language is used to obfuscate instead of people using it to be clear. I can't recall the name of it now.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:07 PM
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18. Here you go...
http://www.orwell.ru/library/index_en

Not sure if that's EVERYTHING, but there's quite a bit there.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:21 PM
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15. Yeah, I read it last year
Eric Blair aka George Orwell was a genius in that regard. Animal Farm, too.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:46 PM
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17. that's a great book
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:18 PM
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19. I read it for the first time a few years ago.
And the whole time I was reading it, I couldn't help but think of the bush administration. Scary, indeed!
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:40 PM
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20. Oh No You Di' nt! A cleansing is in order for your mind.
You were not supposed to read that, much less tie it in to today!
Burn IT!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:50 AM
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22. Your thread title kinda makes me giggle.
It just reads funny.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:07 AM
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23. It can fuck you up
but it's a great book.

Mostly for Orwell's use of language and how he shows that words can be used to control and manipulate people.

Still all politics aside, the betrayal at the end is heartbreaking.

Spoilers coming.....




When they torture him and are going to let rats eat his face and he begs them to do it the only woman he's truly loved instead, it makes you sick.


Most of us have read it and use words and phrases from it: the two minute hate, sexcrime, thoughtcrime, or my fave, doubleplusungood.


Khash.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:28 AM
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26. I know...that's so awful.
I already went ahead and read that part, although I knew what was coming anyway. (Wikipedia and Sparknotes :D) It's really fucked-up and evil.

Last four words are the worst, though.


He loved Big Brother.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:14 PM
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27. If you can get hold of this.....
The BBC did a version in black and white that is very faithful. 50s or 60s. And I don't know if it's on video or DVD, but if you can get a copy, please do.


Khash.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:03 AM
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24. remember this
Orwell was an optimist.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:56 PM
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28. I read it for the first time IN 1984, and it was plenty scary then.
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