I am offended, when artists try to copy the Beatles.

[LoZoccolo]

Someone with a mullet is going around trying to sound like John Lennon, and is writing songs that are similar in style to John Lennon's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL6Uo8DAZKg

On the one hand, altough Oasis was more popular than the Beatles in the 90s, I still respect the fact that the Beatles are the band whom Oasis is often cited as being more popular than, and occupy some of the slots below Oasis' Definately Maybe in the hundred best rock albums.

On the other hand, the Oasis sound is so unique that no one has attempted to imitate them. You see no guy playing guitar and trying to write songs like Noel Gallagher except with a unibrow.

Score one for Oasis.

[rockymountaindem]

1. OTOH, if imitation is the sincereist form of flattery

maybe the fact that nobody is trying to copy Oasis is a sign that the Beatles are far more popular and influential. Maybe nobody cares enough about Oasis to bother copying them, or maybe they just don't have enough fans.

[LoZoccolo]

10. Except that people think it's the best album.

http://www.nme.com/news/oasis/23227

[rockymountaindem]

12. These polls are meaningless

It could be argued that the biggest Beatles fans, the generation who grew up on their music, isn't the "internet generation" and thus that the Beatles were at a significant disadvantage. Furthermore, the fact that Sgt. Pepper's is supposedly the best Beatles album completely invalidates that poll, because anybody with half a brain knows that the best Beatles' album was Rubber Soul. Accept no substitutes.

There are scads of these lists, and every one of them is different. I can't believe there aren't more than 3 Bruce Springsteen songs in the Rolling Stone list of the 500 greatest rock songs. Everyone is going to agree or disagree. I don't even know why people argue about this. I was just being contrary :)

[LoZoccolo]

14. But sales records are not.

Oasis: five platinum albums.
The Beatles: none.

Even Milli Vanilli (with the strength of two Terence Trent D'Arbys and returned grammys) had a platinum album.

[rockymountaindem]

18. Ok, so lead with your best piece of evidence

Don't keep it in reserve for after someone shoots down your weak poll. That's hard to refute. But then, Mariah Carrey is supposedly the most successful recording artist of all time, so, I'm not sure how much it means to be popular these days. Anyway, I'm grooving to the Killers right now, so I'm not concerned with her, or Oasis.

The only music anyone truly needs is whatever they want. These petty contests are meaningless.

[LoZoccolo]

21. Oasis is music that binds a generation.

No other band has done that.

[ComerPerro]

25. the Dead, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Phish, The Rolling Stones

need I go on?

[ComerPerro]

24. Well, all he can do is prove Oasis has 5 platinum albums

which they do.

Its impossible for him to prove that the Beatles didn't have any platinum albums, simply because it is impossible to prove a negative.

But the part of the claim that is provable checks out.

[datasuspect]

49. peter frampton

went plantinum six times on one record.

i think frampton would whip liam's ass with a belt.

[ComerPerro]

50. well, some of their albums are double, triple, quad, etc platinum

[datasuspect]

51. i think hanson could whip oasis' ass with a belt

oasis sucks mighty ass.

[ComerPerro]

52. How much would you pay to see that?

[datasuspect]

54. it would be priceless

[ComerPerro]

23. That's just a lie

Beatles: John, Paul, George and Ringo are the only act in history with five Diamond® albums, signifying U.S. sales of 10 million copies or more. These include the three best-selling albums of the 1960s, “The Beatles (White Album),” “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” and “Abbey Road,” as well as a pair of 1973 hit compilations. The Beatles received their first gold album, “Meet The Beatles!,” and their first gold single, “I Want To Hold Your Hand,” on the same day - February 3, 1964. Music hasn’t been the same since.

http://www.riaa.com/news/newsletter/press1999/111099.asp

I did a Ctrl+F on this page, didn't find one mention of an obscure band called "Oasis".

[rockymountaindem]

28. Oh, snap!!!

Game, set and match. Didn't even need to bring up the movies, the haircuts, the Asian mysticism... yeah, or any of that.

[ComerPerro]

30. do it anyway. Go for the gold

er, uh, platinum.

Or, hell, fuck it, go for the Diamond, something Oasis could never do!

[vickitulsa]

36. Never heard of Oasis.

Seriously.

But then I'm just a baby boomer -- WTF do I know?

[LoZoccolo]

44. This is a song from the album that was named the greatest rock album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ANM31ZUiAg

[TheBaldyMan]

2. I'm just offended by the Beatles, apart from the White album - they suck

and I used to live in Liverpool, try being a rabid Beatle anti-fan there, it can be a little tricky.

[idgiehkt]

3. I'm just tired of the baby-boomers thinking that shit is the be-all

fucking end all of music.

Life went on. I feel for you. I really liked a lot of Paul McCartney afterwards and some John Lennon but Jesus fuck what the hell is so special about 'twist and shout' and 'i wanna hold your hand'.

[TheBaldyMan]

4. don't get me started on that shit McCartney

him and his fund-sucking LIPA. There used to be a couple of really excellent music and drama colleges on Merseyside before LIPA soaked up all the cash.

[Dem2theMax]

33. Life went on?

:sarcasm:

[idgiehkt]

34. LOL

yep.

:rofl:

[Chomskyite]

42. Hilarious

I think this would be like living in Seattle and hating rain, or living in Los Angeles and hating scantily clad women.

[Guy Fawkes]

5. I never knew that Julian Lennon had a mullet.

Go figure.

[Nicole]

6. I'm not offended by a son

trying to follow in his father's footsteps. :shrug:

[ComerPerro]

8. I feel sorry for Julian Lennon

[Nicole]

20. Me too

He lost his father twice, after his parents' divorce & then again when John died.

I think he does sound like his father & he certainly looks a lot like him. So if anyone is going to "imitate" John, Julian would be my first choice for the job.

[philosophie_en_rose]

22. Sean Lennon takes after his mother though.

His new album is cringeworthy.

[ComerPerro]

7. Oasis DID try to copy the Beatles, and failed

They were more popular than the Beatles in the 90s because the Beatles weren't recording albums in the 90s.

But we've been down this road before, you and I.

Oasis is not, despite Noel's claims, the best rock band. They aren't even the best band of the 90s. They aren't even the best British band. They aren't even the best british band of the 90s.

They were big for two or three years.

I don't understand the fascination.

[LoZoccolo]

9. Except that people think it's the best album.

http://www.nme.com/news/oasis/23227

[ComerPerro]

11. And Ronald Reagan regularly turns up as one of our

best presidents of all time.

Thats because, in a poll with so many choices, one small and fringe group of fanatics can really swing the vote, if they all vote in lockstep.

:rofl:

[rockymountaindem]

13. Good point there.

Self-selecting internet polls are crap. Just ask Zogby.

[Dem4truth]

15. I am a newbie but,

Flock of seagulls was supposed to be the new beatles.

[ComerPerro]

16. God damn, is that true?

[Dem4truth]

19. Yes it was all over the news. Flock of Seagulls were the new Beatles.

I am sorry but that always made me laugh.

[ComerPerro]

26. Well, the predictions were correct

[LoZoccolo]

17. Except that the Beatles gave Oasis their vote backwards in a song.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=2577265

[Dem4truth]

27. The Beatles John/Paul gave their music to many groups.

Including the Stones, Mamas n papas, whoever sang red rubber Ball, and most of badfingers songs. They gave away a lot of songs cause they knew they couldn't record them themselves.

[LoZoccolo]

29. Whoever sang "Red Rubber Ball".

Whoever has been forgotten.

Who was on scores of radio stations this summer in promotions for AT&T?

Score one for Oasis.

[ComerPerro]

31. I'd just like to add, to "whoever sang Red Rubber Ball"

I fucking hate you. And I hate your fucking "Red Rubber Ball" song...

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[Dem4truth]

32. Red Rubber Balls would be cool.

eom.

[Chomskyite]

43. If you really want to hear somebody copy the Beatles . . .

. . . it's ELO, Jeff Lynne's band. Noel Gallagher is very Beatles-influenced and even cops a few riffs from them, but Lynne is doing a John Lennon impression and a Paul McCartney impression on the vocals. It's beautiful but you do feel a little embarrassed for the guy.

[RetroLounge]

35. ...

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

R:

[donheld]

37. Elton John did Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds better than they did

IMHO and I'm sticking to it.

[idgiehkt]

38. except my ex-boyfriend

sitting cross-legged like the Buddha out in the middle of Graveyard field about 20 years ago hollering "Lucy in the Sky Delyyyyye" over and over again (he was Japanese)while tripping on LSD. That is my favorite rendition ever, I have to say.

[donheld]

40. Also Aretha did great with Eleanor Rigby,

Barbra Streisand can cover anybody she likes IMHO
Earth, Wind & Fire were great on "Got To Get You Into My Life"
Joe Cocker made "With A Little Help From My Friends"
Stevie Ray Vaughan was great on "Taxman"

The rest I'll agree with you.

[Nevernose]

39. Instead of anti-Beatles threads, just shoot me in the fucking head

Instead of anti-Beatles threads, just shoot me in the fucking head.

At least then it would be less likely to make me just keel right over at your the of taste or discernation. I'd prefer a quick and painless death, thank you very much.

Maybe y'all could go burn old copies of "Rubber Soul" or "Abbey Road" whilest jamming to the pseudo-music of Limp Bizkit, Oasis, Phil Collins, ot Jy Z. Maybe to get the fire started, you could use some old copies of "Paradise Lost" or "The Canterbury Tales" or "Murder in the Cathedral?"

I, too, am offended when artists try and copy the Beatles. Hey. Wait a sec. There was an anti-Oasis joke in the OP, wasn't there? How long have y'all been hurling them, anyway? That shit wasn't funny. I wasted a perfectly good rant on this...

[Chomskyite]

41. Man that kid is talented

I really liked his album Photograph Smile from 1999. Time for him to come out with more music.

[PVnRT]

45. I am offended, by incorrect, comma usage

:evilgrin:,

[LoZoccolo]

46. The comma is where I catch my breath.

I am that offended.

[ComerPerro]

55. Catch your breath every few words, like Malcom's friend

on Malcom in the middle.

I know, you like, Oasis, but this, is going, just, a bit, too far.

:rofl:

[Love Bug]

47. Kicked and nominated!

This is the funniest thread I've seen yet today!

:rofl:

[tigereye]

48. ah, LZ what would we do without you?

bwa ha ha ha ha

[anarch]

53. I guess you probably won't like my band Noel Unibrowllagher very much

:(

[momophile]

56. Who is this 'Oasis' that I hear so much about

but don't remember ever hearing? I lived thru the '90s (and I was in my 20s). Who are they and why would I ever believe they come anything close to the Beatles?

[LoZoccolo]

57. Here are just a few of their high-calibre hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91glaIk56R0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf3EFuEDtic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qocNAYIK3c8

Upon hearing very few bars, you will recognize their international megastardom in a flash.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

58. Hey, there have been a few excellent Beatles covers.

Joe Cocker did several good ones, and Earth, Wind, and Fire's cover of "Got to Get You Into My Life" is great.

Not the same, of course, but then again, that's the point.

[LoZoccolo]

59. There are some excellent Beatles covers.

"Help!" by Oasis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD9k5kqhAq8
"Come Together" by Oasis
"I Am The Walrus" by Oasis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmy0HR1MGx8
"Helter Skelter" by Oasis
"You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" by Oasis