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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:50 PM
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The fucking dog down the street tried to attack my dog.


I'm out walking my dog and we are minding our own business when this huge Chow mix (this dog is big!) comes running up to us and starts growling. My dog is so friendly, he thinks this dog wants to play with him and he is wagging his tail and trying to get to him. (This Chow is running free -- no leash.)

The kids who belong to this dog are standing about thirty feet away watching this happen, but don't do anything. I yell to them, "Come get your fucking dog..." but they stand there like idiots. Finally they call the dog and he turns around and goes towards them. The kids are holding him by the collar, and as we walk past them, the dog breaks free and charges my dog and tries to grab him around the neck. My dog fights back (he is half the size of this monster) so the Chow grabs his tail and starts biting it and shaking it. I kick at the dog and catch him under his jaw and he lets go.

By this time, the mother comes out to see what is going on. This freakin' Chow is growling and still going after my dog. I told the lady to get her dog on a leash or I would be calling animal control. They finally manage to grab the dog and we continue our walk.

We get to our house and I look back and here comes the fucking Chow!! He goes after my dog again and I kicked him hard right in the mouth. He backed up and shook his head and I thought he was going to lunge at me. I picked up the biggest rock I could find and was about to smash him over the head with it when the woman and her sons came running down the street after him. I said, "Lady, if you don't grab this dog right now, I am going to smash him with this rock..this is fucking bullshit that you can't control your dog!" They grabbed the Chow but never apologized to me.

I was so pissed off when I finally got in the house. I swear to God that I am going to start carrying a golf club when I walk my dog. If this shit happens again, not only will this dog feel a 5 iron upside his head, but Animal Control will definitely get a call.

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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:00 PM
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1. This crap drives me crazy too...today I was jogging with my dog
(on a leash) and two dogs came running toward us...clearly not under "voice control" of the owners...one was a Doberman..the other a Boxer...they turned out to be more disobedient than mean but it scared the crap out of me..as i passed them the owners were chasing both dogs down the street and calling them too "come here" to no avail...I don't get it!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:33 PM
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2. I have a Boxer and he's not allowed to be around other dogs offleash when
he hasn't been properly introduced. Boxers can be aggressive with other breeds, particularly other dominant breeds, including other Boxers. I rescued him and found out the hard way. I took him to the dog park a dozen or more times after I got him and the last time - bam! He got in a fight with another dog. The other dog was on a leash - in an off-leash area - and most trainers and experts say that a dog on a leash in that situation become very defensive and insecure. I ended up with a nasty bite from the other dog while breaking it up - the hard way.

Anyway, after that I went to a trainer who specialized in Boxers and learned that I just have to assert total control in these situations so that the dogs don't fight because the only alpha is me. And Boxers respond well to being commanded. They like to please, but they can be hard-headed.

Both dogs did receive a lifetime ban from the dog park which has a "one-strike" rule. But, the park is massive. Today we hiked for about an hour on other trails. He stays in a "gentle leader" collar. We are still working on it in park situations, but he's getting better. I haven't had any issues socializing with other dogs when they've been introduced. And I try to do that as often as possible to help socialize him.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:39 PM
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3. you showed restraint
I doubt if I would have.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:40 PM
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4. I would be calling Animal Control already.
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 09:40 PM by missb
Really, if a dog attacked my dog *three times* during a walk, then the owners really don't get it and should be visited by animal control. Why wait for the dog to attack again? What if the dog attacks someone else's dog - someone who isn't carrying a golf club?
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:41 PM
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5. I am not overly fond of Chows or their hybrids.
Seems like everything now is crossed with either a pit bull or a damn chow. Ruin a good lab mutt with damn chow blood. :rant:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:50 PM
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7. I saw a stat a while back that chows bite more than any other dog
I don't know if it's true or not, but based on the two my friend's family had growing up I'd believe it. They tend to be territorial, possessive of their people and easily startled by children. I never had one bite me, but I think they bit all the neighborhood boys at some point, boisterousness set them off big time.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:26 PM
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10. and no offense to fans of the fuzzy, black tongued monsters, but they
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 10:28 PM by Kali
seem dumber than rocks as well.

Part of the aggression with kids might be the cute fuzzy teddy bear look may attract inordinate grabbing type attention, but yeah they seem aggressive to me too.



edit - typos and not even drinking, sheesh
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:42 PM
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21. I used to have to deal with them all the time in
Western North Carolina, working for kennels, and what made them so dangerous is they do not signal like other dogs do. The just bite. I don't know why they are different, and sharpeis are the same way (I just call them hairless chows), but most dogs will give you plenty of warning before they bite, glaring, baring teeth, growling, posturing, whatever, but the chows that I was exposed to gave very few of these signals before getting serious. I guess they could be called 'straight shooters' so to speak. That and that they only bond with their owner generally, and don't 'make friends' with strangers like labs and golden retrievers and other dogs like that do. They really do have a unique personality.
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siouxsiecreamcheese Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:49 AM
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26. a chow bit me once
i put my hand out to pet it, underneith the dog's head so as show submission, and the fucker gnawed on my hand. my fingers were dripping blood after that.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:05 PM
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15. I love all dogs, but I am terrified of Chows and PBs.
Some friends of ours have a Chow and are always wanting to bring it over to play with my girls (2 rat terriers - under 12 lbs.) I've got to think of a way to tell them that it's just not going to happen. I just don't trust that dog and never will. Am I wrong?

I would have done just what the OP did or worse.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:17 PM
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16. Just tell them it's probably not a good idea to have such a size disparity
Chows have their good points (they are intensely loyal, for one thing) but I wouldn't let one around a small dog myself. They're just too apt to bite first and ask questions later and with such a small dog later might be too late.

PBs actually tend to be pretty cool tempered dogs. Raised by people who care and made part of the family, they have some of the best pet traits of any largish dog. The problem is that they're very needy emotionally, and people who don't socialize them sufficiently and chain them or dump them in the yard and ignore them create problem dogs (to say nothing of people who fight them or want them for intimidation and breed and train for aggression, though I suspect the neglect scenario is much more common.) Being terriers, they do tend toward dog aggression, but many are okay with other dogs and even cats and other animals.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:21 PM
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17. That's a good idea.
They'll understand that and be OK.

On the PB thing - a friend in college adopted one that must have been treated badly. To her, he was very loyal and not a problem, but to others he was a terror. I got in the car once and he damn near bit my face off. I *felt* his teeth snapping in front of my face. I just can't get over that.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:29 PM
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18. I can understand that.
It's difficult at best to get past a bad experience. I got bit once, by a pit rottie mix, and it took me a while to really be comfortable around dogs again.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:42 PM
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22. Mandatory muzzle?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:46 PM
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6. I have a scar from being bitten by a Chow
Its the only dog bite I've ever had in my life. Nasty breed.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:56 PM
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8. Definitely file an incident report with cops& animal control. Build that monster and its
fucktard owners a nice file with local authorities. It just takes a phone call. And it will pay dividends next time it happens. Too bad about your scare. But way to go looking out for your guy. It must feel good to at least know you can be clutch in a crisis.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:01 PM
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9. Turn them in. You might be saving that dog's life
or preventing serious injury to the next dog or person he charges.

That's bullshit.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:34 PM
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11. Good point
If animal control comes out now and puts the fear of god into them on keeping that dog leashed, getting him trained, etc it may prevent a bite and save his life. Or maybe his people will find him a home with people who can handle the breed, which would be good too. They're very challenging dogs at best.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:45 PM
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13. A reality check might help that family make a good change.
I was just charged on the beach by a chow mix - a huge beautiful puppy that looked about 10 months old and who didn't know how big it was. It just wanted to play but if I'd been a kid, he would have knocked me on my butt. Off leash and his owner was about 100 yards away yacking.

I practically bit HER ear off.

And after that, I am going to carry something when I walk alone or with my puppy. Better to be ready than to be sorry later. :(
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:46 PM
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23. It drives me crazy, this kind of thing.
I had a pit mix for 10 years that was leash aggressive. I would go to parks where animals were supposed to be kept on leash and I would have to tell people, 'you need to keep your dog away from my dog' and they would say 'my dog is friendly' and I would be like 'well, mine isn't'. She wasn't a danger to people, except she was not tolerant of children so I didn't let them around her, but she would jump other animals if they came near her when she was on a leash. She didn't try to kill them or any thing, just scare them away. I don't know why people don't just use common sense.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:54 PM
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24. Ugh...I don't get those people at all.
We had a German Shepherd that was awesome with people & animals she knew, but aggressive towards strangers, basically she was over-protective. Every once in awhile, I'd be walking her and some asshat would decide their (always smaller) dog should become friends with mine. And they'd always say, "oh but my dog loves other dogs." It's like "hey asshat, my dog obviously just wants to eat your dog. Do you not see the hackles going up and the low growl?"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:00 AM
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25. Sometimes I think people don't understand that they're not
getting an accessory but a life when they adopt a pet. Drives me nuts, too.

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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:39 PM
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12. Forget the golf club, call Animal Control now...
A call now could potentially save the life of a dog, a kid, or even an adult.
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SoyCat Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:46 PM
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14. Definitely call animal control. A chow mix is the reason
my mother has to carry her cell phone and a hammer when she gets her mail each day. No one seems to know who owns the damned dog but it is terrorizing the whole neighborhood. Animal control has been out numerous times but hasn't been lucky enough to locate it. **Yet**
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:29 PM
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19. Anybody who doesn't obey a leash law should spend a few hours in jail.
Maybe THEN they'd get it through their thick heads that they can endanger others--and their own dogs--by not keeping them restrained.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:37 PM
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20. You need to call animal control.
You need to file a complaint about this. The dog is a danger to other animals. That process needs to get started rolling so that they can actually do something in the case of something else happening. Seriously, call and file a complaint about this. Sometimes it takes several complaints in the process before they can take the dog. If you are afraid the dog will get taken straightaway, then ask them what their protocols are for dealing with it. I wouldn't let my animal get hurt again; in the case that this does repeat and you have vet bills you have to sue them for, prior documentaton will help a bunch.
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scarpa43 Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:38 PM
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27. A simular thing happened to me once
This was at least 10 years ago, but I was jogging through my neighborhood and a kid about 12 years old was riding his bike with his dog (about 30-40 pounds) running next to him. For some reason this dog came right for me, I looked around for some place to go but there was nothing.
As soon as the dog got close enough I kicked him in the head as hard as I could, the dog just shook it off and tried to bite me again.
Repeat this a few more times and the kid on the bike said something like "my dog does not like you", to which I replied, "if you don't come get him I am going to kill it".
It took a guy in a car driving past to get between me and the dog for it to give up, and like your story, no appology, he and the dog just kept on down the street.
After that I did not jog on streets without some kind of self defense, normally some kind of mace I could just clip to my waistband.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:04 PM
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28. self-delete
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 02:15 PM by chaska
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:04 PM
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29. I can't believe this. Why do people just put up with this shit...?
Thread after thread, same thing. Next time, next time, NEXT TIME.

FUCK NEXT TIME! Call the police, for god's sake! You were attacked ... repeatedly!

Go after the sons of bitches! If not for your sake then for others who may not come out so lucky as you.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:05 PM
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30. the girl up the street kicked my dog
now it needs an operation
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:13 PM
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31. I would be on the phone with the police and Animal Control
immediately.
x(

You were assaulted, twice.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:35 PM
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32. i'd shoot the little bastard.
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