Fuck I hate job evaluations.

[Bassic]

You shouldn't get bad surprises on your job evaluation, yet we always do here.


Makes me so mad :grr:

[grace0418]

1. I'm sorry Bassic. I hate them too. Although my last one was really good, only because

my boss was passing me over for the promotion I should've gotten years ago but will never get (I'm not in the gossip girls' coffee klatch) and wanted to distract me and keep me from quitting. Hopefully this year I will be able to quit before my next review. Actually, I fantasize about sitting down at my review with my boss and the head of HR and saying "Uh, as long as I have you both here, I've brought two copies of my letter of resignation. Buh-bye."

[Bassic]

2. I think I'm going to be looking for another job.

I mean I like the work, and even the company, but there are no opportunities for professionnal development. This means that wherever you need to improve your skills, you have to figure out entirely how to do t yourself. Sadly, I seem to have hit a wall with some aspects, and would require further guidance that is simply not frggin' available here.

[Patiod]

3. I hate them, too

My immediate supervisor doesn't like me, and wishes she hadn't been saddled with me (I'm sort of a floater who works with everyone in the office, but I had to report to somebody).

I don't take it personally - it's purely a personality clash thing - she's a tiny, neat, precise person who is very uncomfortable with a noisy, not-all-that-tidy woman a foot taller than she is. She looks at me the way Meryl Strep looked at Ann Hathaway in the beginning of The Devil Wears Prada (when she looks at me at all - she does 98% of her talking to me with her back turned or her head down). Her other reports are small, neat, precise young women.

We generally keep our interactions to a minimum, but my annual evaluation is due March 1st. Makes me want to crawl under my desk.

[Bassic]

4. My boss is actually pretty nice,

I just wish shw would discuss things with me as they happen, instead of waiting for the end of the year.

[Patiod]

10. The worst is when it's something from 9 months ago

"You forgot to send out confirmation emails for that aspirin project"
"What aspirin project?"
"You know, the one last summer, that you worked on with Beth. She says you didn't send confirmations"
"OK, but I'm still trying to remember any aspirin project."

[ScreamingMeemie]

5. That's because they have to keep you in "line"...

You know you just can't be that good...otherwise they wouldn't need your boss.

:hug:

I agree...they suck. And I didn't play well with others which is why I now have the job that I do.

[Bassic]

6. Hi MrsG,

thanks for the hug, :hug:

I needed that :)

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. For you...

...anytime. :) :hug: :pals:

[Bassic]

8. I'm very happy to see you around the Lounge again,

it wasn't the same without you. :)

[ScreamingMeemie]

9. Thank you Bassic...

:hug:

It's good to be here. I missed you guys.

[Wapsie B]

47. Took the words right outta my mouth.

Some bosses know of no other way to manage. A well-placed comment here or there can make the employee off-balance, feel guilty about some supposed wrong, or just be easily manipulated. If the employee is a perfectionist so much the better for boss-man/woman. God forbid they should actually try to develop and nurture the true talents of their subordinates.

[rocktivity]

11. I thought I was through with report cards when I finished school!

x(
rocknation

[Bassic]

12. Yeah, you and me both. nt

[redqueen]

13. It really is criminal, the heirarchical system ...

the stress caused by this crap is really counterproductive.

[Bassic]

19. I fullheartedly agree.

It's just bad personnel management to hit them over the head once a year with everything that went wrong in the past 10 months. BEcause, of course, they only summarily mention whatever went right.

[BluePatriot]

14. I'm getting one soon

from someone I don't even work with but is technically my supervisor. This woman actually criticized people in the past for stapling things the wrong way. I will find this review completely counterproductive and useless and will probably say so. (Waaah!! I'm so insubordinate!!)

[Kixel]

15. I agree!

I hate evaluations even though they are never bad. My boss told me the last time that he saved me for last because I was easy-but I still dread going into that conference room.

[BluePatriot]

16. Haha.

I got mine today! Apparently I have no above average qualities - straight 3's on a 1-5 scale except for two 2's (punctuality, (yeah, I show up late) and dependability (I exploded a bit under pressure. Once. 4 months ago. Which to the lifers around here is recent history.) ) Of course, the you-staple-wrong lady probably thinks a 3 is good and to earn a 4 or 5 you must be godlike so it's all in context I guess.

[Bassic]

17. Mostly 3's myself.

A couple of 2's and and couple of 4's. I just wish they fucking told me what's wrong when it happens.

[BluePatriot]

26. I wish they'd bother to give me one "4" in something

That reeked of laziness. It's like....yup...you're average and have no standout qualities! Never mind that you don't get a chance to stand out because you're persistently underemployed making copies with your BA, you're just an average little cog that obviously needs our guidance to achieve more productivity! *barf*

[Redstone]

18. Hey, I used to have to DO them, and I hated them, too.

Redstone

[Frank Cannon]

48. I do them now, and I can't stand them

As both the giver and recipient, I find that having to do them is worse than having to get them.

[jeff30997]

20. "Fuck I hate job evaluations"

I could make a really nasty joke with this phrase...mmm...No.:)

[Bassic]

22. Hey, don't you be getting my thread locked, now!

:D

[jeff30997]

25. Lol!

:)

[Generic Brad]

21. I love job evaluations

I keep track of significant events my employees make throughout the course of the year. At the end of the year I give them a month to provide details they want to make sure I don't miss. Then I meet with them, discuss ratings, talk about everything that will be in the review, and then I write a first draft. They review the draft and get an opportunity to suggest or make a case for any changes.

Even when someone has a poor review, it takes away the sting because they know exactly what to expect before anything is even committed to paper.

Of course, I've never had a boss who did my review that way.

[Bassic]

23. My bosses are not perticularly nasty, but still

we always get bad surprises. I happen to think that if you screw something up, you should know right away. Therefore, we should not get any bad surprises at the end of the year.

Your method seems quite fair to your employees. That's nice :)

[Wcross]

24. In my job, whats the point?

I have no desire to "climb the ladder". I had to sit through a 4 hour class on how to fill out the evaluation (on my off day I might add). I have had to screw with it for two or three hours during my working day over the past year. We even had to do a "self evaluation" which I graded myself as OUTSTANDING on every item. If asked why I did that, I will say "because I didn't see unfuckingbelievable listed as an option".

They are a total waste of time for me.

[wildhorses]

27. they suck and ours is tied into our cost of living raise

we only get one raise a year and it is dependant on our eval-even though it is 'supposed' to be a cost of living raise...

no one ever gets the most allowed...they always find 'something' wrong with everyone...

oh well, NOBODY IS PERFECT...

except upper manangement:hide:


















:yoiks:

[BluePatriot]

28. Ours is supposedly not tied to raises / bonuses

...and I'll believe that when pigs fly.

[wildhorses]

29. yeah--i know what you mean--

all together now---what a fuckin' circle jerk!!

[BluePatriot]

33. Yup.

We just get a sorta-mega-raise every 2-3 yrs vs. an annual cost of living thing, which stings during inflationary times like now >< But, as we have full-paid-by-the-co insurance, it could be worse. One guy in our warehouse has 7 kids, and their insurance and that of his spouse is still free! Our Brit owner is positively enlightened by US standards when it comes to insurance. It makes me hesitate to leave here even though I don't care for the work. We were also given a small sick day bank this year in addition to our existing vacation days. Before that, we had no sick leave at all.

*edit: typo

[Bassic]

31. At least you get a cost of living raise

We don't. Once in a while they get worried because too many people leave at the same time, and they'll raise wages a bit. That happens about once every 5 years.

[wildhorses]

34. no !! really i don't--i only get one raise a year and it is

based on my eval--cost of living is just the way they 'sell' it to us...

hence the circle jerkx(

[Bassic]

36. I agree it sucks,

but it's still better than the complete lack of raises we get over here.

[BluePatriot]

37. *hug* Hang in there

I swear the small new perks we got this year were turnover-related only. We've had people running for the hills for the same job elsewhere at more pay because of the hits to the wallet at the grocery store....It's funny that we'll get speeches about being "proactive" with an obviously "reactive" HR policy like that.

[Bassic]

38. From what I can see around where I live,

either HR is a really difficult matter to handle, or 90% of the people who do it around here are idiots.

[BluePatriot]

41. Oh, don't get me started, LOL

Our HR lady just fell in to it. She used to be the exec. secretary. Our HR stuff is mostly outsourced on one of those "cafeteria-plan" things so no one really knows what she does. Except send out cake memos that make GD laugh.

[wildhorses]

39. you get NO raises??

:wtf: how long have you been there??

[Bassic]

40. We get raises occasionnally,

but that's almost always on a person to person basis, when we tell them we've been offered jobs elsewhere. A lot of people end up leaving anyway because this place won't even match the other guy's offer.

[wildhorses]

42. ---

:hug:

[Bassic]

44. Thanks

That hits the spot :)

:hug:

[Courtesy Flush]

30. I have a theory about them

Almost nobody here gets good evals, no matter what they do on the job.

My theory is that supervisors are instructed to give negative evals, so if the employee ever really screws up, and they want to fire him, he won't have a stack of positive evals to submit to Civil Service as proof he was a good worker. If they ever want to fire a good worker, there's plenty of written evidence to back it up, no matter how happy they were with their performance.

I've had supervisors say wonderful things about my work... orally! Rarely in writing.

[Bassic]

32. That makes sense.

Because I also get really good comments when they're simply talking to me.

[BluePatriot]

35. That is an excellent theory

and explains the mixed messages I am getting verbally vs. what was written down. 'Course, Texas is one of those right-to-hire, right-to-fire states, so I wouldn't think it would matter much in my case.

[wildhorses]

46. you are exactly right

leaving a paper trail...


gawd...what a bunch of fuckwads:grr:

[terrya]

43. We have to fill out self-evalutations as well.

I turned mine in a couple of weeks back. I still haven't heard from my manager about it.

I know my evaluation is going to be crappy this year.

Sorry about yours, Bassic.

[Bassic]

45. It turns out that it's not all bad.

Apparently, my boss's bosses dont agree with a lot of her negative points, so it's at least a little bit encouraging.