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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:35 AM
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Joe Rogan Confronts Carlos Mencia About Stealing from Other Comics - VIDEO
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:37 AM
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1. So...Carlos was performing on stage, and Joe walked on and
disrupted his act? I only watched about two minutes, and I'd seen enough. As someone who really dislikes Mencia, I think Rogan was totally inappropriate.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:43 PM
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2. That's Not How That Happened
Joe Rogan introduced a comic who once opened for Carlos as a guy who opened for "Carlos Manstealia". After the comic finished, Carlos jumped on stage and demanded that Rogan say that in his face, and Rogan responded. That's the video that you're watching.

Carlos was not doing his act.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:17 PM
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3. Okay, sorry. I only watched the first couple of minutes.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:01 PM
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4. Good to see someone put it to that hack Mencia n/t
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:06 PM
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5. New update.
Rogan is now barred from the Comedy Store.

The aftermath of the video of me clowning Carlos Mencia and exposing him for being a joke thief released its havoc on the internet like a tidal wave of exposure and comic justice.
Unfortunately, it also got me banned from the club.

I got a call from Mitzi Shore the owner of the comedy store yesterday, and she wanted to hear my side of things.
I told her what happened on Saturday night with the whole Carlos thing, and she told me that she would try to work it out.
She called me back today to give me a spot tonight at 10pm, and said that Carlos and I would just have to avoid each other around the store.
She asked me what times I wanted to go on stage this weekend, and I said as long as I got on before Carlos I didn’t care. I said thank you, and hung up.
Then I get a call from Tommy the manager of the club an hour later.
He told me that “they” had decided I needed to “take a break” from the store, and that Carlos was physically threatened by me, and worried about me being around.
That, and they’re upset at me for putting the video up on the internet because they had asked me to stop filming my internet reality show “the JoeShow” at the club.
They also said that Carlos apologized for the weekend, and said that they could advertise that he would be performing there this weekend.

Now, I know this isn’t coming from Mitzi, because I had just talked to her an hour before, so I’m assuming it’s her sons that have made the decision to have Carlos there and keep me out.
Mitzi’s health hasn’t been well over the last years, and slowly her sons have assumed the role of taking over the club.
Whether the decision is financial, because they can sell a ton of tickets with Carlos, or whether it’s personal, because Pauly and I have never really liked each other, either way, it is what it is.

It’s also indicative of this massive problem we have in the comedy community in general.
Here you have a club that basically sells other people’s art. They put the chairs there, sell the drinks and turn the mic on, and the artists do the rest. You have a situation where a comic that’s been known for stealing other people material gets called out onstage, exposed, and then the video is put on the internet for all to see, and their reaction is to ban the guy that exposed him and made the video. To the thief, they sit back quietly and profit from his crime.
It’s truly fucking mind blowing.
There’s not another art form in the world where the creative rights of the artist get as little respect.
If they banned the both of us for this incident, then I would understand that they're just trying to avoid conflict, but the fact that they have told me to "take a break" but they have him onstage this weekend is just a tremendous slap in the face to me, and to the art of stand up comedy.

The first thing I did when I got the call, is to phone my friend Rita over at the Improv in Hollywood and ask if I could get on there this weekend. She bent over backwards to accommodate me, and gave me spots for Thursday night at 10, Friday at 8:30, and Saturday at 10. To her, and Joel over there, I say thank you very much. I truly appreciate the support.
If anyone wants to see me this weekend, that’s where I’ll be performing.

If you want to come down and show your support and have a good time, the address for and phone number for the improv is:

323 651 5810
Hollywood Improv
8162 Melrose ave. Hollywood, CA


I’ve been working out at the comedy store now for almost 13 years, and I’ve always wondered when it was all going to end.
The comics have always speculated that when Mitzi dies the sons would probably turn the place into a parking lot. We always used to sit around talking after the show was over, wondering where we would perform in LA when the end came.
The place was even one of the reasons why I still lived in LA. I would go on the road to certain places and think about moving there, but I could never find a club that I could work out at that was anything like the store.
There’s really no place like it. At one point and time it was a mob run nightclub owned by Bugsy Segal, and the building radiates this weird energy from the years of performers, criminals, customers and experiences.
It’s an energy vortex, and a magnet for crazies. That was one of the best things about filming my reality show there, it was just guaranteed that you would get nutty people to talk to there. They’re just drawn to the place, like moths to a light bulb.

The problem is, Mitzi was always the one that kept the place together.
She’s the one with the true love of stand up comedy. She created it, she nurtured it, and she supported the art form.
As she fades, so does the essence of the club. For me at least, this decision by whoever is in charge over there now to have me “take a break” is the last sign I needed to see that the end is nigh.
It’s been a great time, but like all great times it must eventually end.
I think the way it ended, with a video seen by millions of people is just about a perfect way to go. It’s almost fitting that I get banned from there, because it makes no sense.
Nothing about the comedy store has ever made sense.
That was always a part of the beauty of the place.


If you feel like calling them and expressing your disapproval, or perhaps thanking them for banning me, the number there is 323 656 6225 info@comedystore.com

Unfortunately, this is probably the last time you'll see my name on the Marquee there. It's been great!!


Taken from http://www.joerogan.net/


Kinda stupid if you ask me. It would seem that the store may be playing favorites due to Mencia's draw potential. Yet with these new revalations, one must wonder if Mencia's crap is about played out.

For those of you that do not know George Lopez slammed him against a wall not long ago, because Mecia's HBO special had no less than 13 minutes of stolen Lopes material.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:08 PM
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6. I love hearing jokes about 'Beaners' from a Honduran...
it's soooooo funny. :sarcasm:
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:17 PM
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7. 1/2 German 1/2 Honduran.
I always got a slimy racist feel from his material, now i know why. The whole thing started because Rogan called him "Menstealia" in public.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:45 PM
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9. Add sexist and homophobe to the list...
Mencia's a unoriginal, unfunny, racist piece of vomit. :puke:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:57 PM
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13. Rogan is also a sexist jackass
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 03:58 PM by idgiehkt
I think this is overkill. She liked the penguin movie and he didn't. But what he says to her in this rant...I guess some people here will love it, but I'll never watch anything he ever is in again. I've never liked the sumbitch, I just didn't know why until now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddzHh9bfyY

"I'll wrap my dick around your neck and start you up like a fuckin' lawnmower."

Nice. :puke:

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:14 PM
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14. you have a point....
Mencia's still a piece of puke.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:17 PM
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15. I bothers me he apparently stole from George Lopez
I adore George Lopez
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:20 PM
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17. I caught his special, "Why You Cryin'?" on YouTube.
Funny stuff. :rofl:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:23 PM
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19. yes, he's hysterical
I love his show, too. Sandra Bullock was behing that show because she felt hispanics weren't represented on tv.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:20 PM
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18. That's really what does him in...
stealing from Lopez. Initially Rogan looks like a whiner but the Lopez clip cements Rogan's complaint.

I like George too. :-)

Mencia should be on that FAUX News 'Daily Show' rip-off, he'd fit right in.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:25 PM
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20. I haven't paid much attention to Lopez...
since he started cheerleading for Bush and the war.

Maybe he's woken up.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:32 PM
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21. Oh great.
I had no idea. Crap.

Another one bites the dust. :(
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 05:02 PM
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23. Link?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 05:14 PM
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25. Haven't got one, sorry.
I turned on his "sitcom" once and he was railing about how we shouldn't criticize the war, since the troops are protecting our right to free speech. He was also spouting off on Bill Maher's show, I think.

I remember being disappointed because I had thought him funny.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 05:01 PM
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22. The two people I know who think...
Mencia is hysterically funny are two white boys who are, in a word, bigots who have problems with brown people. They have both said they like Mencia because he "tells it like it is". :eyes:

Uh huh.

Mencia's gag has always seemed to be nothing but racist crap wrapped in brown packaging. I can't stand him.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:18 PM
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8. Good to see someone call that unfunny hack out.
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 03:21 PM by EOO
Now if someone could expose Larry The Cable Guy and Dane Cook for the posers that they are!
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:45 PM
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10. Joe Rogan is a
comic? Who knew!
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:46 PM
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11. Wow. That's great
I've always thought Mencia was an unfunny dumbass.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:48 PM
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12. Mencia is the worst of the stealers out there
And Rogan just nails him here...
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 05:07 PM
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24. Know who else was bad?
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 05:17 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
Robin Williams. Back in the very eary 80s when SF had a very happening comedy scene and Williams had just become a hot act, he would haunt the local clubs, hanging out in the back to catch the acts. It got around quickly that if a comedian saw Williams at his show, he could count on his material showing up later in Williams' act. There was a great deal of open and very verbal hostility at the clubs shown towards him for that. There was one comedian -- can't remember his name -- who even talked about it in his act.

On edit: I just hit google, wondering if my memory was right and found this:

http://www.kempa.com/blog/archives/000108.html

One excerpt from comedian Steven Pearl on Williams:

"Robin Williams has to be in the top three names when there's a discussion of joke thievery," says Pearl. "But, nah, I never touched him. I did hear that a guy had him up against a wall and that it got ugly. You'd know him, he's been in movies, but ain't no way I'm giving you his name. But Robin used to do my material. We'd work together and the next night I'd see or hear that he was doing one of my bits. One, I remember I did at the Holy City Zoo in San Francisco around the time of that Sun City song. I used to do Sammy Davis Jr. saying: 'Hey, I won't play Sun City -- unless I get the big room.' Then, I hear Robin's doing it. I confronted him and gave him s--t and he cut me a cheque right there for a thousand bucks. There were a few more cheques for substantial amounts of money that kept my rent paid for a while. When Robin would come back to the clubs, after he became really famous, some guys would refuse to go on stage till he left the room."

I know that there is nothing comedians hate more than a material thief -- I'm glad Rogan called Mencia on it, and publicly.

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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:19 PM
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16. Okay, it's official
All the comics in the world are losing their minds. :shrug:
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