A Time Limit on Rape???

[pokerfan]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1584786,00.html

The accuser and the defendant agree that after he began to penetrate her and she wanted him to stop, he did so within a matter of seconds and did not climax. Even so, during deliberations, the jury sent a note to the judge asking if it was rape if a female changed her mind during the sex to which she consented and the man continued until climax. The judge said it was for them to decide. They convicted the defendant of first-degree rape, among other sex offenses.

[ThomCat]

1. What that article doesn't tell you

Is that this was in the back seat of a car, her and two guys who held her down and coerced her into concenting. It was rape, no doubt about it. This issue of her giving or withdrawing consent is a total distraction.

[redqueen]

5. How nice of them to muddy the waters that way...

:(

[Phillycat]

2. Clarifying.

The sequence of events was:

1. They begin to have consensual sex.
2. She says no.
3. He withdraws in a few seconds.

??

If this is the correct sequence of events, then I would say no, that is not rape.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

Agreed

assuming that it took those "few seconds" for him to hear her statement, comprehend, and reposition himself.

[av8rdave]

6. If it started as consensual, then he stopped within a few seconds of her saying no...

I would say he respected her wishes.

In all fairness, if I were in that situation, having sex that I believed both of us wanted and then heard "no," it probably would take a few seconds (at a moment like that) to fully realized that she means "stop, I no longer want to do this." At that point, obviously the only correct thing to do is stop, but it realistically could take a few seconds to understand what's going on.

[Phillycat]

9. Exactly.

I've been in...ahem..compromised positions where I'll say "Wait, stop!" because the SO is laying on my hair or I have a cramp in my leg. I imagine it would take a few seconds for any guy to translate, "No" as "Stop having sex with me." A few seconds seems reasonable.

[redqueen]

3. Oh God...

I hope the MD and NC laws are struck down unanimously.

This is just sickening. :cry:

[youthere]

4. NO means exactly that.

No always means no. Any time. Any place. Any circumstances. No means no. No exceptions.

[Little Wing]

7. Oh yes, I remember now

You had that brilliant post in GD accussing just about every male in the world of rape. :applause:

[youthere]

8. I think you have me confused with someone else.

You may want to check your facts. For one thing I rarely post in GD, and for another I have never made such an accusation. Your "memory" needs a little work.