Pls'spain: Why (kewl) Henry ROLLINS thought Ted NUGENT was kewl?

[UTUSN]

(I'm not culturally with-it. But you knew that.)

Uh-oh. Context for the thread: He was describiing his musical influences when he was a kid. And he mentioned NUGENT at least THREE effing/Cheeneeing times.

[grace0418]

1. I don't think he meant politically. He seemed to have really diverse taste in music.

Which I always appreciate in a person. He's clearly just into music and doesn't care what people think of his choices. I know that most people would look at my music collection and think I had multiple personalities.

I didn't the beginning or end of that show but what I did see was really fascinating. Henry is a helluva public speaker.

[oustemnow]

2. agreed

At heart he's into music that rocks, as Nugent's back catalog sometimes did. (See Rollins' Hallucinations of Grandeur for further evidence.) Hey, it's not like he as extolling the virtues of Prussian Blue or anything.

[realisticphish]

9. He is a GREAT speaker

I've seen him several times, and he can go from absolutely hilarious to heart wrenching in about 10 seconds.

[grace0418]

18. Yeah, he really rocked on IFC last night. We turned it on after it started so I didn't

know the context of his trip (he was performing and touring in Isreal). And we had to leave so I didn't see the end either, but we actually ended up being late because we got so sucked in by the show. I hope IFC plays it again. I'd like to see the whole thing.

I've always thought he was pretty darn cool, but now I am really impressed by his talent and knowledge and intelligence. He seems like someone I'd like to know.

[gbate]

3. Well, Ted Nugent put out some rockin' music back in the day.

[GirlinContempt]

4. Why (cool) Henry Rollins thought Ted Nugent was cool

probably because he liked his music?

[InvisibleTouch]

5. I'm not familiar with his music, but...

...as a person, there are few people in the world that I have more contempt for.

Usually I don't let a musician or actor's politics or personal beliefs influence whether I enjoy their work or not - but for this scumbag, I'll make an exception.

[ghostsofgiants]

14. Please tell me you're talking about Nugent here, not Rollins.

[InvisibleTouch]

15. Yes. n/t

[Rhythm]

6. Politics aside, back in the day Nugent could lay down some killer tracks

Hank's always had eclectic tastes, and in spoken word pieces has always extolled the virtures of THE MUSIC, whether he agreed with the musician's politics or not.

Alice Cooper's a shill for the Repugs now, but back in the day, he was my hero...

[Little Wing]

7. Because he's obviously not man enough to turn down everything

that betrays his liberal values.

I mean, come on, obviously!

[jpgray]

16. I think I'll post in GD about how I will no longer purchase his records

(/melodramatichuff)

[realisticphish]

8. Because Nugent was a kick-ass rock musician

regardless of politics

[LaurenG]

10. I love Rollins and I think this is one of the reasons

he mentions ted nugent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7dR8-3Nc0M

[ghostsofgiants]

11. My guess is Rollins really enjoyed Nugents music.

[skygazer]

12. I guess I'm not culturally with it either

Because I had to click into this thread to figure out what "kewl" meant. :eyes:

[rocktivity]

13. Well, Rollins was an impressionable young tyke during Nugent's heyday

both culturally and politically.

:headbang:
rocknation

[mtnester]

20. A lot of us that are of that age thought Ted was kewl...when we were 15

that was then...we are wiser now.

[slj0101]

17. The same reason why I mourned the day Johnny Ramone died.

It's about the music, not the politics...

[grace0418]

19. Henry spoke at length about the Ramones during the show that was on IFC last night.

He described how they changed his life and how he thinks their music could actually bring peace to the Middle East. The best story was his description of going to his first Ramones concert with a whole group of friends and how every single one of the guys that went to the concert with him went on to form a band.

[slj0101]

25. One of my biggest regrets is never seeing them live.

[Gatchaman]

21. Remember, too, that Nugent only recently turned into a right wing dickhead

Back in the 70's, he was a loincloth-clad madman. He may have been a raving republican nutball, but he kept it to himself. It was only in the 90's after Nirvana destroyed metal that Nugent had nothing better to do than start a radio show and spout his nonsense.

[smtpgirl]

22. Henry Rollins is not on the same plane

Remember he was with Black Flag

I met Henry Rollins in Georgetown in the late '70's, early '80's. He was more than cool. I''ll never forget my conversation with him.



Black Flag (band)

Rollins Joins

Henry Rollins
Twenty year old fan Henry Rollins — then living in Washington D.C. — had corresponded with the band, and met them when they performed on the U.S. east coast. At an impromptu show in a bar, he asked to sing "Clocked In." Since vocalist Dez Cadena was switching to guitar, the band invited Rollins to a rehearsal. Impressed by his stage demeanor, they asked him to become their permanent vocalist, and despite some doubts, he accepted, due in part to Ian MacKaye's encouragement. He accepted, and acted as roadie for the remainder of the tour while learning Black Flag's songs during sound checks and encores while Cadena crafted guitar parts that meshed with Ginn's. Rollins also impressed Black Flag with his broad musical interests during an era when punk rock music and fans were increasingly factionalized; he introduced Black Flag to Washington DC's go go, a distinctive take on funk music.

Rollins was Black Flag's longest-lasting singer, and has remained active in music to the present. When he joined Black Flag, he brought a different attitude and perspective than previous singers. Some earlier songs, such as "T.V. Party" or "Six Pack" (a song written about ex-singer Keith Morris) blended a nearly goofy sense of satirical criticism (of apathy and alcoholism, respectively) with driving punk rock. The muscular, tattooed Rollins became the focus of considerable attention. He was a dynamic live performer and powerful singer, who usually appeared on-stage wearing only shorts. Ginn once stated that after Rollins joined, "We couldn't do songs with a sense of humor anymore; he got into the serious way-out poet thing."<7> Rollins also became known for his frequent fistfights with audience members.

With Rollins onboard, Black Flag and The Minuteman made their first tour of Europe in the winter of 1981, encountering hostile audiences and aggressive skinheads as much as meeting eager fans. They happened to meet punk icon Richard Hell on this tour, and opened a concert for him. Robo was detained in the UK due to visa problems, and never rejoined Black Flag. He was briefly replaced by Bill Stevenson (of The Descendents), before Chuck Biscuits (previously of D.O.A. and later of Danzig) and Emil Johnson each took a turn behind the drums before Stevenson became the full-time drummer.


Liar Lyrics
Artist(Band):Henry Rollins Review The Song (1) Print the Lyrics


Send Henry Rollins polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone


you think you're gonna to live your life alone
in darkness
and seclusion
yeah I know
you've been out there
tried to mix with those animals
and it just left you full of humiliated confusion
so you stagger back home
and wait for nothing
but the solitary refinement of your room spits you back out onto the street
and now you're desperate
and in need of human contact
and then
you meet me
and you whole world changes
because everything I say is everything you've ever wanted to hear
so you drop all your defenses and you drop all your fears
and you trust me completely
I'm perfect
in every way
cause I make you feel so strong and so powerful inside
you feel so lucky
but your ego obscures reality
and you never bother to wonder why
things are going so well
you wanna know why?
cause I'm a liar
yeah I'm a liar
I'll tear your mind out
I'll burn your soul
I'll turn you into me
I'll turn you into me
cause I'm a liar, a liar
a liar, a liar

I'll hide behind a smile
and understanding eyes
and I'll tell you things that you already know
so you can say
I really identify with you, so much
and all the time that you're needing me
is just the time that I'm bleeding you
don't you get it yet?
I'll come to you like an affliction
and I'll leave you like an addiction
you'll never forget me
you wanna know why?
cause I'm a liar
yeah I'm a liar
I'll rip your mind out
I'll burn your soul
I'll turn you into me
I'll turn you into me
cause I'm a liar, a liar
liar, liar, liar, liar

I don't know why I feel the need to lie
and cause you so much pain
maybe it's something inside
maybe it's something I can't explain
cause all I do
is mess you up and lie to you
I'm a liar
oh, I am a liar

if you'll give me one more chance
I swear that I will never lie to you again
because now I see the destructive power of a lie
they're stronger than truth
I can't believe I ever hurt you
I swear
I will never to you lie again, please
just give me one more chance
I will never lie to you again
I swear
that I will never tell a lie
I will never tell a lie
no, no
ha ha ha ha ha hah haa haa haa haaa
sucker
sucker!
oh, sucker
I am a liar
yeah, I am a liar
yeah I like it
I feel good
ohh I am a liar
yeah
I lie
I lie
I lie
oh, I lie
oh I lie
I lie
yeah
ohhh I'm a liar
I lie
yeah
I like it
I feel good
I'll lie again
and again
I'll lie again and again
and I'll keep lying
I promise

[grace0418]

23. That's so cool. I bet just about any conversation with him would be

memorable. I was into Black Flag during my punk rock girl days, but it's only been recently that I discovered how interesting and intense and intelligent a person Henry is.

[smtpgirl]

24. I am 46 now, so that was about 27 or 28 years ago

That was when I was hanging out in Glen Echo (part of Bethesda). I'll never forget Walt Waskeiwitz, he lived on Walhonding Rd in Glen Echo.


Georgetown was about 10 minutes away
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