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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:04 PM
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Poll question: Who is your favorite XX Century Composer?
and why do you think so?

I don't have samples of all my favorites, so help me out and post some.

Here are some I found:

Star Wars - John Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izA5_kd72rc

Star Trek - Jerry Goldsmith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvRJcFczDh4

Batman - Danny Elfman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07s0smlPoCk




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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:05 PM
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1. Frank Zappa
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:16 PM
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4. I Like Zappa too, but help me out here
post some samples, puhleeze?

:bounce:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:08 PM
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42. Second!
Zappa was an unbelievable composer. Absolutely amazing.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:41 PM
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44. Frank Zappa, The Early Years
Frank Zappa on the Steve Allen Show - Part One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGPPBwDBJDs


Frank Zappa on the Steve Allen Show - Part Two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufgn__85q9E


And something a little more recent...

Frank Zappa - Live - Montana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCG4Caw7IIc
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:06 PM
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2. Duke Ellington.
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 11:08 PM by Old Crusoe
Ellington's Paris concerts proved to me what a genius he was as a composer and arranger.

The solo piano work alone is exquisite.

Gustav Holst is on your list -- thank you for that. His Folk Song Suites for Symphonic Wind Ensemble are terrific. He's more famous for The Planets, but give those Suites any day.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:17 PM
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5. ...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:11 PM
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3. My dear Xipe Totec...
I just love Aaron Copeland....

His dances from Rodeo, the soundtrack for The Tender Land, the music for Our Town, Fanfare for a Common Man...

The list just goes on and on......

His plain-spoken, yet vivid works, are wonderful and evocative...

They speak to me......:patriot:


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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:21 PM
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6. Krzysztof Penderecki.
I also like Igor Stravinski, Dmitri Shostakovich, Aaron Copland, Karl Orff.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:23 PM
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7. That's just a hell of a great list. Penderecki's THRENODY FOR THE
VICTIMS OF HIROSHIMA is one of the most powerful compositions ever.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:42 PM
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8. Found a link to Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima:
It is eerie. The style is reminiscent of Phillip Glass, but the emotions are more reminiscent of Mussorgsky.

http://www.somtow.com/audio/SOMTOW-Penderecki_for.m3u
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:49 PM
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11. Nicely put. You get some of the "throb" of Glass, but I agree with you --
there's the rush and bruise of the Russians, and the horror of the actual event that inspired it.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:36 PM
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45. Love Penderecki
His Second Violin Concerto, with Anna Sophie-Mutter kickin it on violin, is one of the most beautiful and strange pieces of music I've heard. Quite accessible too, not like a Schoenberg twelve tone work or something.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:45 PM
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9. I voted for the Finn
...cuz I looove Finland.

Rachmaninoff is pretty good, too!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:49 PM
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10. Prokofiev
To me, that's the only answer to this question.:)
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:55 PM
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12. Good one!
I hate that the polls only allow so many choices...

Jascha Heifetz plays March by Prokofiev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNqP-PO66c8
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:20 PM
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49. Agreed! The 19th century boasted a great many musical geniuses...
Beethoven, Verdi, Wagner, Brahms, Tchaikowsky, Fauré -- the list goes on and on. For me, genius means producing a large body of consistently high-quality work, over and over and over, at least 80 per cent of the time.

The 20th produced only one who could be considered a genius on their level, and that was Prokofiev.
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:56 PM
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13. I love all of the Gershwin brothers compositions
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:05 AM
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15. Monique Wilson just put me on a different mental plane
her voice is cristaline; I was mesmerized.

Thank you!

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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:15 AM
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19. It's a beautiful montage
I keep replaying it.

My cousin is a harpist at The Juilliard School. She played in the Juilliard orchestra under the direction of John Williams during the 50th anniversary extravaganza. We're very proud.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:02 AM
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14. By far, George Gershwin...
The greatest American composer, a true polyglot who used vibrant folk rythms, ageless American melodies and blended them seemlessly within a classical structure...

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:09 AM
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16. I love Gershwin, but what about Copeland?
He too merits those accolades.

Grand Canyon Suite and Fanfare for the Common Man; surely these capture the American spirit?

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:35 AM
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22. The spirit....
But not the essence...

Copland captured the romantic side of America, the dream, the myth...

Gershwin took hold of the American pulse, the reality and infused his music with the American experience...

I love Copeland...

But I Adore Gershwin...
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 09:52 PM
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39. Copeland is Pastoral, while Gershwin is Urbane
Different views of America, but neither I think is more or less mythical than the other.

But I know what you mean.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 09:58 PM
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41. Good point....
I did see a performance of Rodeo done by the Cleveland/San Jose ballet that I thoroughly enjoyed...

Maybe if we agreed that Copeland was reminding us of the past while grounded in the present and Gershwin was rooted in the present while looking optimistically toward the future...

In any event, I would say Copeland is my second favorite composer of the 20th century...

Debussy, although half in, half out of the 20th century, is my all time favorite "contemporary" composer...
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:30 PM
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51. On the other hand, Leonard Bernstein...
captured both. He was a neat fusion of Gershwin, whom he probably never met, and Copland, who mentored Lenny and was a major influence.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:50 PM
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47. Grand Canyon Suite is by Ferdi Grofe´ and...
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 09:52 PM by misanthrope
...it's spelled "Copland" but pronounced the same as the version with the "e."
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:12 AM
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17. I like Hindemith,
Bartok, many others
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:17 PM
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48. Oooh! Another good one!
I've sung some of Hindemith, back in my college days. Tough stuff!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:12 AM
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18. I couldn't possibly pick only one; but here's a fun Barber composition..
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:16 AM
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20. Beautiful composition
reminiscent of Gershwin, yet different; more modern.

I loved the xylophone.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:43 AM
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23. It reminds me a little of Debussy, too...
One of my teachers knew Barber; and told me that he was a deeply spiritual man. I feel like that spirituality is present in even the "lightest" of his compositions.

Glad you enjoyed! :toast:
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:26 PM
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50. You're probably familiar with his "Adagio" as well, but...
...have you heard his Overture to "The School for Scandal"? It's yummy...
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:26 AM
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21. My favorite XX composer?
Whoever the genius was that was the first guy to use the wah-wah guitar.

Bow-chika-wow-chika-chika-wow!!
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:58 AM
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24. Bernstein & Sondheim


For Lite Listening
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:39 PM
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52. Bernstein was fantastic; Sondheim is even more so.
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 11:52 PM by IntravenousDemilo
But then, I guess I would say that since he's been my mentor/instructor as a composer for the last 30 or so years. He's also the greatest-ever lyricist of the American Musical Theatre -- maybe even the greatest-ever English-language lyricist, period. Sondheim is a complete musical dramatist, and I think he deserves the Nobel Prize for Literature, for his innovations to, and stretching the boundaries of, the art of musical theatre. Unfortunately, there's no Nobel Prize for Music, and I've always wondered why, since unlike literature, music doesn't need to be translated into another language to be appreciated by people of other cultures. Music speaks directly to the listener without needing to filter it through a translator for foreign consumption (though one could argue that the performer is also a translator, and sometimes a bad performer has the same effect as a bad literary translation).
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 12:58 AM
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25. Igor Fyodorovich Stravinsky
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:30 AM
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53. Seconded
I can't think of any composer who could take every new technique to come along (neo-classicism, serialism, etc) and use each one of them with such complete mastery. Second place belongs to Shostakovich. Third is a tie between at least a dozen more.


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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 01:34 AM
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26. I like John Adams...
especially "Nixon in China."

Also, Thelonius Monk.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 02:31 AM
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27. I voted for Gershwin because you didn't offer Ellington
They are the two top, IMO.
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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 05:12 AM
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28. Erich Wolfgang Korngold
Bela Bartok, John Adams, Harry Partch
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 08:08 AM
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30. Korngold - one of the movie soundtrack pioneers
and he also wrote wonderful works for cello, violin, etc.

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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 06:06 AM
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29. My faves
Classical: Ralph Vaughan Williams, honorable mention Samuel Barber

Film: Bernard Hermann, honorable mention Carl Stalling

Popular: Duke Ellington, honorable mention Cole Porter

And Robb is still a dingbat.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 08:10 AM
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31. Copland, no question.
Edited on Sat Apr-14-07 08:13 AM by terrya
"Appalachian Spring" is just one example of his greatness.

Although Sondheim does come in a very, very close second.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 11:55 AM
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37. Where "Hoe-Down" from "Rodeo" came from....
Copland obviously listened to Alan Lomax's recordings...

http://www.loc.gov/folklife/lomax/americansouth/americansouth.html

Click on "Bonaparte's Retreat"...1937.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 08:24 AM
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32. Varese, Zappa, Penderecki, Glass, Reich, Stockhausen, Stravinsky, Gorecki, Tan Dun
and a few others, like Riley, Monk, Laurie Anderson, Hovhannes, Harry Partch.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 08:30 AM
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33. guess i am old fashioned ---
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 08:57 AM
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34. I like Sergei Prokofiev, Samuel Barber, Ralph Vaughn Williams,
and the wonderful group of English composers who wrote sublime choral music (Gerald Finzi, C.W. Standford, Edward Bairstow, William Walton, Herbert Howells).
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 09:07 AM
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35. Mahler? Nah, he's too dark.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 11:50 AM
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36. Bob Dylan
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 01:02 PM
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38. I've heard a lot of critics claim that Cole Porter was one of the greatest American composers
But I voted for Rachmaninoff. I love Russian music.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 09:53 PM
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40. Gene Simmons.
Just kidding.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:26 PM
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43. A belated Sample of Copeland
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:40 PM
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46. The Elfman. No one else has done so much, in so many varied genres. nm
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:31 AM
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54. Frank Zappa.
Edited on Mon Apr-16-07 12:32 AM by NNadir
Terje Rypdal and John Coltrane are way up there.
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