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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:25 AM
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Ever have a friend you just stopped talking to?
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 12:31 AM by Drunken Irishman
Not because of a fight, or death, or because they moved. Rather, you two stopped talking for no real apparent reason? Well I have a friend I haven't talked to in about two years and it's bugging me greatly. Mostly because I think I see him sometimes at the store. It's one of those fast glimpses, where you're not completely sure it's the person you think it is. That's happened to me, but every time I try to find him again, to get a better look, he's not there. The last time this happened I was at the store when I thought it was him but it didn't click until a few seconds later. When I went back to where he was, no one was there. I looked around the store for a bit, but couldn't see anyone that matched the description.

Anyway, the story. My friend and I had been really close since high school. We had biology and PE together, back-to-back and then would chill at lunch. After my sophomore year, however, he moved up to Idaho and we mostly moved our friendship to the online community, talking it up on MSN Messenger. Well a year after I graduated from high school, he moves back to Utah after his mother commits suicide. There we pick our friendship right back up, hanging out most weekends and just enjoying life. Then my friend gets the idea that he wants to join the military and he does. This was leading up to the Iraq War and he was adamant in going. He joined, left for training and I thought we wouldn't see each other again. I honestly thought he would die, which angered me greatly. And even though I tried talking him out of going, he thought it was best and so I wasn't about to stand in his way. I was not about to risk our friendship -- knowing he could never come back -- over this. So he left and I sat, wondering if I'd ever see my friend again. Well not long after I get a phone call and it's him. I'm shocked and excited, but I can tell my friend is very upset. He tells me he was discharged because of some medical reasons that he failed to mention during his physical. It was hard on him, but good news for me.

There we continued our friendship. We battled about the war, politics and just about every thing, but we remained friends. Now it's early 2005. I remember this because White Noise had just been released in the theatres and since my friend was a huge ghost aficionado, we went and saw it. That was the last time I saw him for quite some time. Months went by and I didn't know where he was, what had happened to him and I wondered if we'd ever speak again. I contacted his house, only to be told by his parents that he wasn't home and they would give him my message. It felt as if they never did, since every time I would call I got a zero return phone call from him. Finally, around the summer of '05, I believe, I received a call from him. I remember it was very faint, because I could barely hear him. It started out with "do you remember who this is?" and of course I realized shortly after it was my friend. We talked, he told me he had moved out of his parents' house over a spat and was now living in his grandparents' basement. He had a new job and things seemed to be going well. He said he tried contacting me, but never could. I took him at his word and we decided to meet up that next weekend. I was skeptical that it would happen, but it did and we chilled once again. It was great and things went well. And when it was over I remember I was walking inside and he said he'd call me and we'd hang out again. He had my number, I did not have his. He got into his car and left and we've never spoken since.

I've tried looking him up on Myspace, through internet searches and have even gone over to his old house. Nothing. His family has moved, no trace of whether he went back with them. I don't know where his grandmother lived, or where he worked. I don't have a number and only an e-mail address he used on his MSN, the one he used to chat with me all throughout high school up until 2005. Every e-mail has been ignored. I once saw him on MSN, but he was mobile and he never answered my message. Typical, because every time he was mobile, I could never get him to answer.

It's now two years since we've last spoken and I don't know what has happened to him. It's just weird how a friend can completely stop talking to you like that for no good reason. I know we didn't fight and nothing bad happened the day we hung out. Just that the friendship came to a halt and I doubt I'll ever see him again. I mean, my contacts are the same. He knows where I am, knows my phone number and if he wants to contact me, he can. But he hasn't tried, which tells me he doesn't care and that makes it even more depressing. That a friend can just easily throw away six years of friendship. At least that's what I assume, since it's the only thing I want to assume. For all I know, he's dead and I don't want to think of something like that.

Am I seeing him at the store he used to work at, or is it all in my mind? I've seen him a few times, same store and nowhere else. He'll be walking up aisles and by the time I get to those aisles, he'll be gone. There are also times when I think I see him but am too scared to go up to him. Mostly because I fear that if it is him he very well could turn his back to me and our friendship. But the times I have tried to see if it's him, he just disappears, as if that person wasn't even there in the first place.

Sorry for the long story, but this has been building inside of me for a long time and I needed to get it off my chest. I'm also posting this because sometimes when you think of a long lost friend, they come back into your life. It's happened to me before, with an old neighbor, and I'm hoping it happens again.

Thanks for reading! :)
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:36 AM
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1. I get a real feeling from this story that it's not about you.
He's not mad or angry at you and it's not that he doesn't care about you - between his mom, his unstable living conditions, his discharge and whatever else is going on, he feels awkward being in touch. Maybe he has some issues he needs to work out? Maybe he feels embarrassed or that he's failed at something? Maybe he just needs to be on his own for a while? Whatever the reason, it's not a reflection of his feelings for you. I've been in that position before and I've lost touch with people because of it - I wish I hadn't, but it was just the circumstances at the time.

He may reach out to you again in the future or you may run into each other somewhere. Just let him know you're glad to see him, no matter what his circumstances. You're so right - when you think about someone a lot, they often reappear. Think about some fun times you had with him and remember how you felt during those times - bringing feelings into play often helps bring them back around.

And, in the meantime, know that sometimes people are meant to have an impact on our lives but aren't meant to stay permanently.

Most of all though, don't feel that this is something that you've done or not done. I can tell you've been a great friend to him. :hug:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:43 AM
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2. Thanks for the kind words.
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 12:43 AM by Drunken Irishman
Maybe you're right. He has always had some personal issues, whether with family or emotionally and that could be the reason he's distanced himself from me. Hell, maybe that was the original reason and now he's just found a better life and he sees me as part of the bad part of it. I can see how that goes, since I've had friends I really connect with some troubled times in my life, even when they're not at fault for them.

It's just weird, though, because I was really his only friend when he moved back here. He had lost contact with all the other high school buddies and now I just want to know what's happened to him. Two years doesn't seem like a long time, and maybe it isn't, but a lot can happen during that span. I just hope he's ok and things were going well for him. I'll probably never know, but I can hope...and right now, that's all I have when it comes to this situation.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:52 AM
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3. And you know, it sounds like he could really use a good friend like you.
How big is your town or city? Same neighborhood? I bet you do run into him one day soon. Two years is a long time and a lot can change in a person's life in that time.

Or just keep looking online - you never know when he might pop up one day. Could he have moved out of the area - maybe enlarge your search one time and see if that helps? You can always set up a google alert on him too - I do that because I'm in PR, so I have alerts set up for my different organizations. But, I also set up a google alert on myself, LOL, just to keep an eye on what's out there about me. I told that to a friend of mine recently and she said she has lots of google alerts on family and herself and a couple of other people! Who knew?!
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:56 AM
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5. Pretty big city, about a million people.
And that's just the valley. I don't know if he moved back to Idaho (possible), or what. Hopefully he pops up on MSN one day and I can hit him up. But even then, I don't want it to be weird. I hate the idea of me hitting him up and having him say "look, I've moved on with my life...I've got new friends now, maybe you should as well," that'd kill me. :/

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:52 AM
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4. Yes, I think it happens all the time as people move on to
new situations and become busy with new friends, etc. You have to really work at keeping up friendships.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:57 AM
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6. But that quickly?
When you say you're going to call someone and hang out in a week or so, and then never call the person again? It just doesn't make much sense to me. Of course I know friends drift apart. There are many friends I don't communicate with anymore. But not once have I scheduled to hang out with one of them and then just never see them again. Normally it's because I move, they move or we just stop talking. This went beyond just not talking. This went from making plans to nothing.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:11 AM
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7. Yes I think what you described happens too.
The best intentions can get waylayed and in pretty short order sometimes. After that it can be embarassment that connection was not made and the drift apart is made longer and longer. I will tell you something...the next time you see that person on the store, approach that person.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:24 AM
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14. Yes. It can be pretty uncomfortable and awkward....
After you've lost touch for so long, it's a little embarassing to run into them. But after a long talk or a lunch meetup, the ice is usually broken and you either go on with your relationship or realize that you no longer have enough in common.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:15 AM
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8. I have a very strange relationship with one of my friends . . .
she and her now-husband stood up for my husband and I at our small, intimate wedding ceremony. We've been in each other's lives for over 30 yrs., but suddenly a few years ago we just drifted apart. After 8 yrs. went by I decided for the heck of it to call their home. Her husband answered, said he would give the message to his wife and she called back within 10 min. We still don't know what happened and why we spent 8 yrs. apart -perhaps we just needed a break or our lives went on separate paths for a while.
I have a feeling that your friend is dealing with very deep emotional issues - perhaps being with you brings back too many memories of his past family/school life that he can't deal with right now. Who knows? It sounds like you miss him a great deal and you're a good friend to him. If he's meant to be in your life again, it will happen.
I will keep you in my thoughts and hope things work out for you and your friend.
BW925
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:15 AM
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10. One of my best friends from high school--we just drifted apart.
No real reason. He moved, I moved. We tried to stay in touch for a while, and then...nothing.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 02:20 AM
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11. i understand . . .
sad, isn't it? perhaps one day you'll get the *bug* to find him and get in touch once again.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:01 PM
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17. I did call him about 5 years ago. We talked for a bit.
It was kind of awkward...we didn't seem to have much in common, and then we never talked again.

I figure if he wanted to resume the friendship he would call or e-mail again, but he never did.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:44 AM
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9. To answer your question; yes.
I had been keeping in touch with my best friend from grade school regularly for the past 34 years. She is from a very solid, successful, well, educated family; has two brothers, and everyone adores one another. I'm also from a well educated and successful family, but my parents are divorced and neither re-married. My father and I have no contact with my only sibling; my sociopathic younger sister. My mom went from being an atheist to being a born again Baptist. Obviously, it's not a very functional family. Anyway, I always dreamed of having a strong family of my own; a husband, kids, the works. I can't even find a date outside of abusive or manipulative married guys, which are obviously quite unacceptable. She, on the other hand, married her ideal husband. She always wanted two boys and never wanted a daughter, and that's what she has; two adorable little boys. I could only afford a bachelor's degree, she managed a Masters. I've always made more money but she's certainly the more successful of us. At any rate, she stopped returning my calls a few years ago. Now I catch her every once in a while, but she's not terribly interested in talking to me. I know that it's simply because she feels that we no longer have much in common-her family is the important thing to her now, and I can't relate to either her happiness or her struggles. Maybe the same is happening in your situation; perhaps your friend thinks that his experiences have distanced him too much from the life he once had. Maybe it's political and he's been listening to too much talk radio. It likely isn't anything you've done or not done.

I guess that all you can do is hope to see him before he sees you in one of his usual haunts. I hope that you can find a way to rebuild the friendship somehow. Friends are extremely hard to find these days, so losing one can be quite hard. I understand, believe me.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:58 AM
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12. Umm. I feel I have to post this.
Have you considered the possibility that he may not be....among us anymore?
Sorry, but that what jumped out at me. It would explain his not being in touch, and the fact that you catch glimpses of him but by the time you get there he's gone.
Please, do not take any offense. I have to call it like I "see" it.
Please keep us posted.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:32 AM
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16. Don't worry, I've also thought this.
But I've searched the newspapers and his name hasn't come up (their online archives go back into the 80s).
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:13 AM
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13. Yes, I'm afraid so
When I was in grad school I met a girl with whom I had a lot in common. She was working on a degree in museum studies and I already had one and had worked in museums, we both liked Star Wars and Star Trek, military history and alternate religions. After grad school we both joined the Society for Creative Anachronism and had a blast. We hung out together, cooked, read and just had a good time. Then I met and married my husband. "Sue" and I started not seeing as much of each other. Then husband and I adopted our daughter and that put paid to my friendship with "Sue". I see her at SCA events occassionally and we are friendly, but several times over the past four years since we adopted our daughter, I've sent her e-mails, suggesting lunch or inviting her to dinner and I don't even get an answer back. It's sad, because from mutual friends, I heard that she had had a bout of skin cancer recently and I'm sorry that we aren't communicating. But there isn't much I can do. I'll keep her on my Christmas card list and send the occassional e-mail in hopes that she decides to get in touch, but at this point, I don't have much hope.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:25 AM
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15. I don't think you have to worry that it's because of you.
While you were busy with the life you were building, so was she.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 03:05 PM
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18. Maybe it's the other way around?
He stopped talking to you?

I wouldn't worry about it.

And yes, there are a lot of people that I've stopped talking to, for one
reason or another and there's an acquaintance that I avoid like the plague.
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