I'm on my first scotch of the evening.

[crim son]

The ex- has revamped his song list to include something about "gotta get you a woman". It sounds trivial but to this guy, everything has a secondary and indeed, a tertiary meaning. Even when it doesn't, which is why we're through.

Cheers to me. This is the Lisa of old, bitter, somewhat buzzed and really, really optimistic. :D

[cobalt1999]

1. who cares what the ex does?

Keep that optimism.

My first girlfriend was a Lisa, maybe that's why I always liked your posts.

[crim son]

2. That, or I am a gifted poet.

Probably it's the Lisa thing. :P

I care. I'm still in the throes of hideous rejection. You know, sorta.

[lost-in-nj]

3. I hear you

I am in the hideous throes of rejection.....
don't understand it for the life of me...

yeah I'm drinking

:hug:

lost

[crim son]

4. It's much worse when you don't understand it

or if you wonder if it somehow should have worked. I'd take my guy back in two seconds if he wanted, but it won't work in the long run.

Lost, you are a fine woman, in every respect. If you've been rejected it's because the person you were with was not your destiny... s/he did not help you become the best you are meant to be. That's what I think, before I've poured my second and my third, and I believe more alcohol doesn't make me any wiser. Yet I drink on. :toast:

[Redstone]

28. lost, if I may interject here, it seems like you're a good friend to crim son, with

good experiences to share, good advice to give, and good sympathies for those case when there's no advice.

Far be it from me to offer an opinion on two other people's relationships with one another, but it seems to me (since I've been the beneficiary of both you friendship and crim son's) that you guys would both benefit from getting to know one another better.

You're both peaches, is what I mean to say.

Yes, the pain is keeping me up again tonight and I'm rambling. But I detect kindred spirits with the two of you. And one of my most fervent hopes would be for people like the two of you (who have been such stalwart friends to me separately) to both be happy, especially if you can help one another to do so.

End of ramble. It's raining now, so I think I can go upstairs and let the sound of the rain on the skylights lull the pain from my mind.

Redstone

[Kutjara]

31. Wise words, indeed, Red. As usual.

On a completely different note: have you gotten yourself a bloody cane yet!?!??!!!?!???!

I hope the pain eases off. Take it easy and perhaps sink a couple of glasses of the tipple of your choice.

:hi:

[Redstone]

37. Actually, I have a genuine Irish Shillelagh on order. Stylish, yes?

I haven't, actually, been too awfully wobbly recently, but that time is indeed coming.

And, though it's inadvisable within current medical wisdom, the tipple has indeed been had.

Redstone

[Kutjara]

42. Excellent! A shillelagh is is an excellent choice both for support and,...

...if the occasion merits it, the delivery of a sound whooping. My late father had one, but we had to take it off him in the end, because he kept threatening people with it.

Regarding medical wisdom, the fact that something like 75% doctors are alcoholics speaks volumes about the curative properties of liquor. Bastard medicos want to keep it all for themselves!

[cobalt1999]

29. We've all been there, Lisa.

Still, you can't look in the rearview mirror for long without going crazy.

[crim son]

34. I've been there once too often.

It makes a body nervous when craziness takes the form of a steady hand and a cold heart. You know?

[cobalt1999]

41. You're a romantic and you'll never have a cold heart.

Life can be tough for us romantics, but it can be far more wonderful than others experience too. Enjoy your drink.

[crim son]

44. Trying.

Succeeding!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. He has crappy taste in music.

;)

[crim son]

7. Well, we agree on about 25%.

He has a strictly lovesongs list on which I love everything except the - ugh - Rod Stewart. He played "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face." No man has ever played that for me. But you know, musical taste isn't everything. The husband listened to Bach and other baroque and I thought he was god. He wasn't.

Hi. Twelve more drinks and I'd love to hear from you. :D

[Starbucks Anarchist]

8. It *is* everything!

:P

[crim son]

9. It's a lot, I agree

which is why I tried to *love* your jazz. :7

[Starbucks Anarchist]

10. I can't think of a jazz-related double-entendre now.

:evilgrin: :rofl:

[crim son]

11. Can you? Being your intellectual inferior, I'm at a loss.

PM it to me.

Sigh. Kidding. I will NOT hound you :evilgrin:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

13. Damnit.

x(

[crim son]

15. I have your best interest at heart.

Plus, it's early. Give me two hours.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

18. I can give you more than that.

Oh... you meant the other thing. :blush:

[crim son]

20. Don't put words in my mouth!

:P Not words.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

25. You responded to yourself, silly.

:P

[crim son]

27. Huh?

It isn't the first time. I am rather stupid, as has been remarked. :P

[Starbucks Anarchist]

35. Nah, just drunk.

:P

[crim son]

38. Not yet.

Two drinks? I'm at the lucid and voluable stage (as in "blethering idiot") You really know how to work your way into my heart, don't you. I'm vicious when depressed. :grr:

[From The Ashes]

6. We should form...

...the bitter STBE wives club. :):hi:

[Fire Walk With Me]

48. May your and Lisa's pain transform into myriad blessings and joy.

[TK421]

12. I'm drinking scotch with you right now, Lisa! Hope you're feeling better!

well...maybe not, cause it's me, but............:D

[crim son]

16. I swear that when I read your post I immediately felt better.

You've been around as I've been through the ups and downs and I do appreciate your bothering to notice. :toast: To you, TK421!

[TK421]

40. love......

:hug: why does there have to be that pesky distance between us?

"sigh"

[TK421]

43. and by the way, I always notice

I may not say it much, but I do...

I wish there was something I can say or do to make you feel better

But you're in Maine, and I'm right outside of Philadelphia.....

And I'm getting mushy now, so I will stop now....harumph!!! cause I'M A MAN, BABY and men don't act that way!!!! :D

[crim son]

45. Maybe it's the scotch

but I'm mushy too. People being nice to me, even people from the Armpit of America, well, it means a lot. :P :pals: :hug: :loveya:

[TK421]

46. armpit of Amurka? WTF?

why are you trying to get on my bad side?

[crim son]

47. Ah, I can't help it.

Are you dumping me? :cry:

[TK421]

49. You? NEVER...I'm hooked on you

did I actually type that?


ummm...I meant to say that you are a ....uhhh a really good friend and a nice pers...



AWWWWW SHIT.....I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[crim son]

50. Oh my.

I love you too, TK421! You have turned my evening around! :loveya: :D :loveya:

[TK421]

51. blushing like a maniac right now.....thanks

my cheeks are about to melt off...thanks for that...only you can do that, you know :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:

shit!!!!!!!!!

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

14. And when the bottle's empty break it over his head.

VERY satisfying.

[crim son]

17. I can't.

A) he's not here and
B) he's a really good guy who was always expecting the worst and who brought it upon himself. Myself. Aw, fuck. Cheers!

[WillyT]

19. I'm About To Be On My 3rd Jack...

And as my old man used to say, don't get mad... get even.

Joke 'em if they can't take a fuck!

Ok...

Goin back for a 4th, LOL!!!

Really hope you are Ok.

Peace.

[crim son]

21. I hope you're okay too.

I was just in the kitchen pouring my second and thinking, damn, I'm damaged. I'm sad but not crazy sad... what the fuck's wrong? Is this age or emotional calcification? I'd be grateful if it weren't so weird.

[WillyT]

22. I Like That...

"Emotional Calcification"

I mean I hate that you may be correct, but I love that you may have diagnosed the problem, LOL!!!

Thanks for lifting my calcified spirits!

:hi:

[crim son]

24. That's why I'm here: that you may take pleasure from

my suffering. :P :hi:

[Redstone]

23. Wait a minute: What the FUCK do you care about "the ex's song list?"

If Im reading this right, you need to make some drastic changes, and you need to make them NOW.

And you know I'm saying this as someone who will be your friend, even when all you other friends are gone.

Do not, repeat, NOT do this to yourself.

Redstone

[crim son]

26. There is only one other DUer who actually knows about this guy.

I think if you did, you would at least forgive me for being sad. But as THE DEITY IS MY WITNESS I shall sin no more with the republicans, nor with any man who desireth me to call him "master." Okay, Redstone?

Bless you. It means I'll be single for the rest of my freaking days.

[Redstone]

33. If I remember correctly, you did tell me about him. And the LAST person from whom

you need to request forgiveness is me.

I'm the one who accepts EVERYONE (and that includes YOU, kiddo) for EXACTLY who they are.

Do you remember that, from our previous conversations? I will talk to you, I will counsel you (if asked), but I will NOT judge you. Not ever.

I'm going to let you down right now, because I do really have to go to bed, but I wish I had the energy to keep talking with you here at DU or on the phone. I'm really sorry about that.

Some day, you need to come spend a weekend with me and Mrs R and Mrs R's Margaritas...I think her stories (in addition to the Margaritas) would do you a lot of good.

Redstone

[Inchworm]

30. You failed to mention

what you were wearing...

:hi:

[crim son]

32. Laughing.

That wasn't an oversight; it's Maine and cold and we can't afford to heat until it's literally freezing. I have on red suede slippers with pompoms, black exercise pants, a pyjama top, a sweatshirt, another top and over that, a big green fleece my husband left when he moved out.

SEXAH!!!! :D

[Inchworm]

36. must be some warm pants!

jest sayin! :evilgrin:

:D

[crim son]

39. So many responses come to mind

but I will rely on my innate dignity. Warm pants, yes. :D

[leftofthedial]

52. first glass or first bottle?

[crim son]

55. An inch in a glass because I'm practicing restraint.

I had two, poured a third and didn't drink it. Good girl.

[leftofthedial]

59. good girl

[Whoa_Nelly]

53. Good on you, little sister!

You deserve the Happy Pumpkin with the kid with the stick out ears!
You go, girl!

[crim son]

56. Nobody deserves that., Whoa Nelly!

Hi sweetie. How are you? :loveya:

[Whoa_Nelly]

61. Meant that silly pumpkin and kid as a representation of life goes on

so it really doesn't matter anymore how the ex acts or chooses to do no matter how subliminal he thinks he's being.

You are so past that!

Am good. Substitute teaching, just had an interview to be a teacher of moderate to severely impaired kids, mostly autistic, and am in the middle of a design job for a living/dining room great space, with a follow up on kitchen reorganization. That job should net me about $200-400 on billable time (more if I do the overwash color change on the walls AND make the window treatments!) And, if I get the teaching position, will start out as a Step 3 on the pay scale, meaning a net take home of over $3K/month.

So, life is going OK for now.

How are you???? :hug: :loveya: :hi: :pals:

[TK421]

54. What brand of Scotch, may I ask?

[crim son]

57. Terrrible, cheap scotch.

You may not ask. :D

[BarenakedLady]

58. I hope you are feeling ok this morning.

:hug:

I think I missed something...sorry that your heart is broken again.

:(

[crim son]

60. Nothing you couldn't have predicted

given that we've broken up ten times already. This time though, I was less understanding and completely unwilling to accept any blame for his jealousy and moods. I miss him like crazy but I'm doing very well. This time I am determined to keep my act together and so far, so good.

It's nice to see you!!!! :loveya: