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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:15 PM
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2001:A Space Odyssey special edition out next week
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 07:33 PM by darkstar
http://www.amazon.com/2001-Space-Odyssey-Two-Disc-Special/dp/B000UJ48SG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-7491097-6990453?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192752362&sr=8-2

With all the talk about the upcoming Blade Runner, I was just wondering when 2001 would get the deluxe treatment.

(Sorry if already announced here in the lounge.)

:hi:
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:21 PM
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1. Has anyone ever seen it in Cinerama? What are the extras or what did they put on the DVD?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinerama
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) - filmed in Super Panavision 70; presented in 70 mm Cinerama
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:25 PM
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2. Yep...I did...
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 07:28 PM by darkstar
Saw it when it came out at the age of 9.

It was a singular cultural moment. My friends Dad, a PhD in plant bio-chem, took us. His eyes were filled with tears afterwards.

For reasons both sentimental and on pure "cinema" terms, probably my favorite movie ever.

:hi:


Edit, oh yeah.....

* Commentary by Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood
* Theatrical trailer
* Channel 4 documentary: 2001: The Making of a Myth
* Standing on the Shoulders of Kubrick: The Legacy of 2001
* Vision of a Future Passed: The Prophecy of 2001
* 2001: A Space Odyssey - A Look Behind the Future
* 2001: FX and Early Conceptual Artwork
* Look: Stanley Kubrick!
* Audio-only interview with Stanley Kubrick
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:53 PM
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27. I saw it at L.A.'s Cineramadome in 1988 in its native 70mm
To my knowledge, 2001 was never shot in a true three-image Cinerama, but rather in an anamorphic 70mm frame that would fit on the extra-wide Cinerama screen.




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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:22 PM
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29. I've never seen a Cinerama, I've been only once to an IMAX.


Must have been a totally different experience to watch this movie in Cinerama.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 12:45 AM
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30. It was a great experience
I took my new girlfriend, who was bored almost to death, though I was in geek heaven!

(She later married me, and we've been together almost 20 years!)

Truth be told, as cool as it was to see 2001 in its native format, it didn't compare to two other movies I saw in Los Angeles in 70mm widescreen: Lawrence of Arabia and, believe it or not, The Sound of Music. The extra detail and image in those two films were just jaw-dropping, like seeing those movies for the first time.


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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 08:40 AM
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36. My dad says that's how he saw it in the UK
Three screens across
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:29 PM
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3. I thnk Kubrick was one of the top 3 directors ever...
but I hated that movie.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:49 PM
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5. He's my all time favorite
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 08:08 PM by Mike03
And after him come Scorsese, David Lynch and David Fincher. Then Bob Fosse.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:50 PM
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6. Anybody
who doesn't recognize Hitchcock as the greatest director ever can go to hell.

No personal offense to you. But it's all about The Hitch.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:52 PM
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8. OK, if you say so.
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 08:09 PM by Mike03
Rear Window is certainly a masterpiece. Psycho is a vital turning point in film history. The Truffaut Hitchcock book is probably one of the most important technical books about story structure ever written.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:59 PM
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11. Hitchcock's biggest turd
was better than anything released in the last 20 years.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:01 PM
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13. Family Plot?
Better than Scorsese?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:21 PM
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22. ok
you might have me on that one.

But Hitchcock was old then.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:58 PM
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21. You can keep Lynch and Fincher, but it is nice to see some appreciation for Fosse...
A vastly underrated American Genius
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:41 PM
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25. Fosse is shamefully under-appreciated
He was truly a genius. Many of his works were understood at the time, but then STAR 80 was neglected terribly by critics, and soon after that he was gone, just in the way he predicted in ALL THAT JAZZ. I still think ATJ was the best picture of 1979.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 12:59 AM
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32. I so fucking agree with you!
I met Stanley Kubrick - His brother's birthday party (I was a TV writer... ) It was Kubrick's last visit to the US. Anyhoooo - Stanley was there and I asked him "WTF were you on when you made that movie??? I did my laundry during it and didn't miss anything." I know... I make friends wherever I go. He was super delicious and laughed. We had a hoot. His parents were there along with some big named actors- producers... etc. The band at the party was... wait for this --- The Sons of the Pioneers" It was a western themed party (duh) Monty Montana was doing rope tricks on his spotted pony in front of the house... Monty was at least 80! I will keep that memory etched in my brain forever.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:47 PM
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4. Fantastic, but...
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 07:50 PM by Mike03
This is very exciting, but I have three editions of this film already. How is this edition different? It's been widescreened, remastered twice...

It's my favorite movie of all time, without any qualifications whatsoever, so I'll have to get this, but I'm just curious... what have they done to it that has not been done before?

Next item on the agenda is to do this for THE SHINING. It desperately needs the deluxe treatment.

Also any Kubrick fan must get the book STANLEY KUBRICK ARCHIVES. It is expensive but a must have.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:51 PM
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7. Well here you go....avilable as set or alone
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:53 PM
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9. I own that
Everyone should : - )
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:58 PM
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10. I think these are mostly new?
I can't be sure about all of them. I'm pretty sure most of the 2001 extra content is new, isn't it?

# Commentary by Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood
# Theatrical trailer
# Channel 4 documentary: 2001: The Making of a Myth
# Standing on the Shoulders of Kubrick: The Legacy of 2001
# Vision of a Future Passed: The Prophecy of 2001
# 2001: A Space Odyssey- A Look Behind the Future
# 2001: FX and Early Conceptual Artwork
# Look: Stanley Kubrick!
# Audio-only interview with Stanley Kubrick
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:00 PM
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12. Oh Shit, you are right...
My God, this is the THIRD edition of the Kubrick series.

This is great, but wow they are sure juicing this for all it is worth.

I can't wait. I'm going to have to reopen an account with Amazon.

This is fantastic news... Whoa.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 06:41 AM
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35. I bought the first edition way back when ...
simple packaging, nothing fancy, no special features, just the movies. It has:

Lolita
Dr. Strangelove
2001
Clockwork Orange
Barry Lyndon
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket

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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:02 PM
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This is fantastic.
Thanks for posting this. Otherwise, I never ever would have known about it.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:02 PM
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14. The main thing
is that it will be available on both high definition formats. But yeah, not really all that different. The new editions of The Shining, Full Metal Jacket and Clockwork Orange (even Eyes Wide Shut) are much bigger deals cause it's the first time that they are available on a video format in their theatrically shown original aspect ratio (ie, widescreen) and not in an open-matte 4:3 ratio.

Agreed on the archives--I've got a copy and it's terrific.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:04 PM
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15. This is good to know
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 08:06 PM by Mike03
I had no idea there was anything new to be done to Kubrick's work. I'm ELATED about this.

Film buffs have been quarreling about the aspect ration of THE SHINING for years.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:07 PM
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16. Yeah, it's great
You can see in the archives how all the shots were framed for the theater, but Stanley hated pan and scan so much that he released all the stuff on video open-matte so nothing would get cut off the sides. Of course, he died before widescreen televisions became the norm, but the studios are finally doing the right thing and releasing these amazing films the way they were intended to be seen.

Personally, the one I cannot wait for in high definition is Barry Lyndon...hopefully that and Strangelove will be released soon (Strangelove has the issue of being the only non-Warner film--they made a special deal to include it in the previous sets.)
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:12 PM
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17. Barry Lyndon
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 08:13 PM by Mike03
Is a tremendous film and terribly ignored. It is just incredible.

Do you happen to know if it is true that THE SHINING was intentionally filmed in a limited aspect ratio (television aspect ratio) as opposed to a widescreen? That has been the conventional consensus regarding the DVDs of THE SHINING. To this day, I still see arguments about this on line, and I have never gotten a straight answer on the aspect ratio.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:24 PM
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18. I'm 99% confident that it was shot 1.85:1
you can see the reflection of the helicopter during the driving sequence, and you can also see a boom-mike at one point, and knowing what a perfectionist Kubrick was, there's no way that he would have let that happen. It's open-matte on video cause that's how it was stipulated in Kubrick's estate, but I believe it is his wife Christine (who could ever forget her from that incredible final scene in Paths of Glory) who has asked the studios to make the change now.

And more to the point, it was 1.85:1 in the theaters, so that's obviously the way it was intended to be shown. :-)

Barry Lyndon in a lot of ways is my favorite of his films--one of the most mind-blowing pieces of cinema ever created, in my opinion.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:47 PM
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19. Link to what Kubrick said was the best interpretation of 2001.
By Margaret Stackhouse, a 15 year old junior(!) at a New Jersey high school. I read this in a book by Jerome Agel on 2001. For anyone who doesn't 'get' the movie, it's the best analysis I've read.

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0009.html
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:16 AM
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38. I remember reading that, and awhile back I searched to see what became of her
Sadly, she died at the age of 32.


Margaret Ann Stackhouse was born 24 January 1952 at Plainfield, NJ. She
was the daughter of Doctor James Stackhouse (a descendant of Thomas
Stackhouse, Jr. who came to Pennsylvania with William Penn in 1682) and
Mildred Woodward Stackhouse. Margaret graduated as a National Merit
Scholar from Plainfield High School in 1970 with Highest Honors and
almost perfect SAT scores. She received the Rensselaer Award for
Mathematics and Science, and was selected for the National Science
Foundation's Special Physics Program at Cornell University. Her
philosophical analysis of the movie "2001" received considerable
attention and was published in "The Making of Kubrick's 2001", edited by
Jerome Agel.

She entered Princeton University in 1970 and graduated in
1974 summa cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa, and a Princeton University
Scholar, as well as other awards.

In 1975 she went to Athens and studied modern Greek. She spent the next
2 years in Turkey where she married, mastered Turkish, and became
engrossed in the Middle East. In 1978 she and her husband returned to
New York where she was awarded a fellowship in Middle Eastern Language
and Culture at Columbia U. School of Graduate Studies. Her marriage
ended and she received a Master of Arts degree in 1981. She then won a
year's fellowship at the American Institute of Indian Studies in New
Delhi. She died of a tropical disease in Bangalore, India, 19 October
1984.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:55 PM
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20. the box set has Eyes Wide Shut and NOT Dr. Strangelove?
are you familiar with the robotic phrase "Does not Compute"!

this is long overdue! I have put up with the non-anamorphic dirty transfered copies for too long. It will be great to see these films, especially Full Metal Jacket which has never been released in widescreen format.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:24 PM
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23. Strangelove was produced by a different studio
this is a Warner box-set. Warner had made a special deal previously to have Strangelove included in sets. It'll presumably get released on its own sooner rather than later, I'd think.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:28 PM
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24. There is not enough arable land on this planet...
...to grow enough pot to make the ending of that movie make sense.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:15 PM
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28. Read the book. n/t
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 06:33 AM
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34. LOL
:rofl:

So true. I love 90% of the movie, but the last 10% is just bizarre.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 08:54 AM
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37. Here's what happened
Bowman ... is transformed into a fetus-like being enclosed in a transparent orb of light — the "Star Child". The film suddenly returns to space near the Moon and Earth. Floating in space, the Star Child gazes at Earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film)

But the book ends slightly differently.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:49 PM
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26. Oh my god,it's full of stars!
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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 12:47 AM
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31. I am pumped about this too
HAL, please don't be listening.........
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 04:23 AM
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33. I've never actually seen the movie
even though I've read all the books in that series. I should probably find a copy somewhere and watch it.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:42 AM
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39. Found a cheaper deal than amazon
Buy.com has $10 off if you pay through Google (one-time use only)

2001 Space Odyssey-Special Ed $19.99
Shipping & Handling
Budget: 7 to 9 business days $2.90
Tax (GA) : $0.00
Google Checkout & Buy.com $10 Sign-up Bonus -$10.00

Total: $12.89

(amazon is 17.97 with shipping)
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 05:06 PM
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40. Kick for This Week
Did anyone get this?

At my local store, I could only find the new version of "The Shining," which I have not watched yet.

But I'm intensely curious if anyone has watched either the new version of "Full Metal Jacket" or "The Shining."

What's the verdict on the new box set?

Is this remastering of "2001" superior to the last one?

As a massive Kubrick fan, I'm dying to know what everyone thinks.
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