"I'll fucking kill you, you son of a bitch." Football Coach to 12 year old.

[ohiosmith]

Coach Accused of Threatening to Kill 12-Year-Old Player
By CudahyNow.com

Story Updated: Oct 30, 2007

A Cudahy Middle School assistant football coach was suspended from attending games or practices and is under investigation by police for for allegedly assaulting a 12-year-old player and threatening to kill the youth.

According to a police report, Michael Crawley, 39, grabbed the boy by his facemask and threw him to the ground, yelling profanities and threatening to kill him, after the boy performed a two-person block during practice, knocking over Crawley's son, who plays on the team. Crawley told police, he "lost his cool," and that the boy performed an illegal chop block, which injured his son.

"I'll (expletive) kill you, you son of a (expletive)," Crawley said, according to the report.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Update: Coach sentenced to run gassers.

[flvegan]

2. I'll bet that Crawley boy has a real sweet life.

12 years old with a dad like that. Wow.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. Big deal

What are we, a nation of fucking wusses?

Guy yells at kid. So fucking what?

My hockey coaches used to call us useless fucktards during every practice, and much worse if we deliberately injured other players (until we were ten, after which that was part of the instructions!).

This is dumb.

[Deep13]

5. "...grabbed the boy by his facemask and threw him to the ground..."

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. Try getting clothes-lined from over the boards!

:-)

[Deep13]

12. No thanks.

:eyes:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

58. You were abused

To advocate this behavior is wrong.

[alcibiades_mystery]

59. Oh, yeah, right

I have to get to therapy right away. The lifelong trauma has suddenly dawned on me and I see how damaged I am.

:rofl:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

60. Made my point

thanks

[alcibiades_mystery]

63. If you say so

:hi:

[Lex]

6. and look how well you turned out, eh?

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. Zing!

:rofl:

Nice one.

[Lex]

15. I keed, I keed.

:hi:

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. You got me

I admit it when I get got!

;-)

[Dukkha]

9. yeah because winning is all that matters

That's the American way. How dare anyone question the coach's methods!

[Name removed]

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[ghostsofgiants]

13. Ahh, organized sports are such a positive, uplifting thing.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. Sometimes...

:-)

[ghostsofgiants]

16. I live my life surrounded by jocks...

That "sometimes" can be rare.

[devilgrrl]

18. They're not "work" either

eom

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. The claim hasn't gotten any

smarter over the last two days.

More resentful, yes.

Smarter? No.

[devilgrrl]

33. Football isn't work... and i'm sticking with it.

So quit whining.

[Common Sense Party]

34. Neither is playing a guitar and singing raspily.

But look at how much people are willing to pay Springsteen to hear and see him do it!

I don't envy him his fortune, neither do I envy the footballers or baseballers or golfers. If that's what people want to waste, er, spend their money on, it's up to them.

[devilgrrl]

38. I'm not talking about music, I'm talking about sports, quit changing the subject.

Football isn't work.

[Common Sense Party]

53. No, it isn't.

Neither is being a golfer.

Neither is being a movie star.

Neither is being a pop or rock star.

[devilgrrl]

54. Oh, boo hoo. The guy making my submarine sandwich works harder than Tom Brady...

:cry::cry::cry:

[Marrah_G]

75. I seriously doubt that.

[LanternWaste]

82. Football is art?

Football is art?

[Common Sense Party]

103. No, football is entertainment. nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

56. Plain clueless

Not worthy of serious discussion. Your know-nothing opinions are ridiculous on this subject. You clearly just want to get into some lonely internet "debate." I'll leave it to others. Cheers.

[Marrah_G]

74. They absolutely can be.

[redqueen]

28. He also grabbed him by the facemask

and threw him to the ground.

[Marrah_G]

73. That's different

This asshole threw a kid down and threatened to kill him because the kid hit his son. He wasn't coaching, he was behaving like a jackass. There is a line in coaching and this guy crossed it.

[Maestro]

86. Still not appropriate.

My coaches used to yell and scream at us too, but never saying that they were going to kill us. It's not a case of us being wusses, it is a case of someone being civil when disciplining a child whether it be in sports, the classroom or the home. If we expect more civility in this world, it starts with the adults.

[Deep13]

4. So what are they investigating?

He either did those things or he did not. If he did, she should be shit-canned at least.

[Oeditpus Rex]

11. Hmmm... not sure I'd wanna live in Cudahy

A 23-year-old Cudahy man accused of beating his dog to death with a baseball bat was charged Wednesday with a felony and faces up to 3 1/2 years in prison, if convicted.

Sean Owen is accused of beating his beagle with an aluminum baseball bat because the dog was sick and Owen couldn't afford take it to a veterinarian or the humane society, or have it euthanized, according to the criminal complaint filed in Milwaukee County Circuit Court.

http://www.cudahynow.com/story/index.aspx?id=678831

[Orrex]

21. Good grief

He should have just had the football coach fucking kill it.

[Oeditpus Rex]

25. Nah, because then you've got *three* trials

Including conspiracy.

:P

[Jimbo S]

22. I used to live next door to Cudahy

And some people give me crap about moving to out to Waukesha.

[JBoy]

36. Oh sure

Didn't have enough money to take his dog to the vet. But he had plenty of money for aluminum baseball bats. Fucker.

[ohiosmith]

37. Nice logo. I hate the new jerseys.

:hi:

[RetroLounge]

41. No, you really don't...

The south side of Milwaukee is another world.

RL

[NNadir]

65. Cudahy Mayor Ryan McCue says the city's recreational amenities are just part of what makes Cudahy...

special.

This isn't Cudahy, California, is it?

Cudahy California sucks too. The air there was some kind of solid if I recall.

[Rabrrrrrr]

20. Inexcusable. At 12 years old, that kid shouldn't be receiving threats any more.

Coach shoulda just killed him. Set an example for the rest of the team.

Fuckin' kids nowadays. Being coddled by their elders.

Damn right that guy should be investigated and taken out of coaching. Put him back in Kindergarten T-Ball coaching, where he belongs.

Making threats instead of acting.

What an ass.

[ohiosmith]

23. Have you ever considered a career in youth sports? You are a natural.

[Rabrrrrrr]

24. I can totally work up the failed-life jackass Type-A violent self-loathing misery

that is required for sports!

I'd be a great coach!

[redqueen]

31. ...

:rofl:

[redwitch]

50. Rabrrrrrr, you are the best!

:loveya:

[Rabrrrrrr]

57. Thanks!

:blush:

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

26. The real story is

the coach was channeling Woody Hayes :eyes:

[ohiosmith]

27. Is that a shot?

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

29. Of course it is!

Detroit born and raised......... :)

[ohiosmith]

30. ouch! you wound me.

[sasquatch]

40. Blasphemy

:spank:

[ohiosmith]

42. forgive them, they know not what they do

[SPKrazy]

32. Little too much testosterone?

or maybe a little too much power mongering?
mental illness a little?

fuck

lost his cool doesn't quite describe the intensity of that.

:grr:

[Common Sense Party]

35. I wonder if it was Coach Ricky Jimmy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXt_JhbFG-k

[Mojambo]

39. Alec Baldwin is coaching football now?

Good for him!

:evilgrin:

[Deja Q]

43. Play an online FPS. The 12 year olds there are the same way.

FPS = First Person Shooter.

[Ptah]

44. Already on youtube!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wEVJyf0ft3I

[ohiosmith]

45. that's just plain mean

[Ptah]

48. .

:evilgrin:

[sasquatch]

49. The ghost of William Tecumseh Sherman ascends upon you

:grr:

[Ptah]

51. Oh yeah, Woody was a pe

perfect gentleman.

My bad.

:rofl:

[sasquatch]

52. I don't think he would do that though

[ThatsMyBarack]

46. I'd press charges!

:grr:

[datasuspect]

66. the principal used to give us "licks"

if we got out of line. a thick wooden paddle with holes bored in it (for better aerodynamics). he'd make us sign it too.

[Pithlet]

87. So, that means all other assault should be legalized?

Because kids were and still are paddled in school? Paddling still happens in many schools. My son's school does it, though they have to get parental permission first. It's still illegal to assault people. It's even against the law for coaches. ETA I think paddling should be flat out outlawed as the assault it is, but as long as it exists I don't think it makes it okay for all other forms of assault.

[datasuspect]

94. i'm not going to argue pointlessly

i was just relating my personal experience. not advocating illogical thinking.

me posting anecdotal information does not necessarily mean i advocate all forms of assault.

[datasuspect]

47. "walk it off"

kids need to get tough.

they're the ones who will have to fight each other over precious natural resources after many of us are dead.

[Rabrrrrrr]

55. That's right! This coach should get an award - that kid will be one of the few who live

in the future Republican-designed wasteland in which people will be eating children, stealing from dogs, and rutting around in the radioactive filth looking for protein and sucking on old bandages just to get some water.

[ghostsofgiants]

61. Honestly he should have just shot the kid.

[Midlodemocrat]

62. He assaulted that kid and should be charged.

If it were my child, I'd fucking kill him myself, or sue his ass into oblivion.

[sasquatch]

67. Like your kid would play football

:P:D

[Midlodemocrat]

68. Actually, he wrestles and plays basketball.

:P

[sasquatch]

90. I thought wrestling season was during basketball season

:P
LIAR!!

[Midlodemocrat]

95. LOL. It is. He plays rec basketball, but wrestles for the high school.

SO THERE!!! :P

[sasquatch]

96. What weight class?

:P

[Midlodemocrat]

101. He weighs 160 right now, but wants to lose about 10 pounds.

Which isn't going to happen given how much he works out and how much he eats. :eyes:

[sasquatch]

102. He'll find a way

I used to wrestle to get better at football, I wrestled 215 my freshman and sophmore year, 275 my junior and senior year.

Tell him to lay off the post work out meals ok, my brother was a state qualifier his senior year.

[ohiosmith]

69. ouch

[Midlodemocrat]

71. Well, he's right about TM not playing.

Unless you count the powder puff game where she took out the other team's QB.

:rofl:

[sasquatch]

97. We play rough

:D

[datasuspect]

64. does this kid think the terrorists will ask him about his feelings when he goes to fight

in the middle east in 6 years?

no, i didn't think so.

[TK421]

70. So this is what Bobby Knight is doing with himself these days..

:eyes:

[Marrah_G]

72. My guy coaches HS football

He may swear, rant, rave and generally throw the occasional tantrum, but he would never behave like that guy. He horrifies parents and is beloved by his players, even years after they graduate. Threatening to kill a 12 year old? Not on his worst day. Throwing a 12 year old child on the ground? He'd destroy anyone he ever saw do that.

That man should not be coaching football. Especially if he can't handle seeing his son get hit. Kids make illegal tackles and other mistakes all the time. It's part of learning the game.

That coach should never be allowed to coach again.

[Midlodemocrat]

76. I agree with you 100%. This man has no business coaching kids.

[AngryAmish]

77. Wrong

Football practice ain't beanbag. It is a game of violence and violence is part and parcel with teaching football.

[Marrah_G]

78. The guy crossed the line

he was no longer coaching- instead he was lashing out in anger over his son.

[AngryAmish]

80. If the kid is n ot hurt it is not a big deal

[bridgit]

81. hubby just mentioned his coach used to say he expected to see either...

their blood or the blood of the other team on their jerseys at the end of the game :scared:

[raccoon]

83. Sounds like training for future soldiers. nt

[Pithlet]

85. It's a game that is violent. It's not a game of violence.

There is a difference. The aim is not to purposefully harm others, as a game of violence would be. People get hurt because it is extremely forceful, but the injury itself is not the specific goal. Otherwise padding and helmets wouldn't be worn. And the fact that it is a forceful, violent, dangerous sport doesn't excuse deliberate assault. The coach should be charged.

[ohiosmith]

88. Good point.

[AngryAmish]

93. By your definition, boxing is a game of violence

Yet protective equipment is worn.

Yours is a distinction without a difference.

[bridgit]

79. So the kid's being primed for 'debate' & membership here at DU what's the problem?

:shrug:

[marzipanni]

84. If he can't tolerate his son getting injured

he should advise him to take part in a sport that doesn't involve the players ramming into each other.

[Drunken Irishman]

89. I coached a season of little league football for community service based on anger issues.

I couldn't do it because I nearly blew at the kids. I never did, though, but often had to walk away because I was so angry that I really had that blind rage. It's hard controlling it when your team doesn't run the fucking play you fucking call and then fumble because of the confusion, only to FAIL to tackle and the opposing team RUNS IT BACK FOR A TOUCHDOWN TO SEAL THE FUCKING GAME!

Mother fuck!

Ok, I'm all better now.

I went 3-2 and then left after one season. :D

[Marrah_G]

91. Buy a case of clipboards

and just smash the clipboards on the ground when either your team or the refs act like deaf, blind, and drunk morAns! (clipboards cost less then headsets)

[Drunken Irishman]

92. A coach told me that.

So I did and yes, breaking those helped with my anger.

I don't think I would ever take it out on kids that age. However, by high school...

[swag]

98. hundredth reply?

[ohiosmith]

99. ding ding ding

we got a winner

[sasquatch]

100. 100!!

:woohoo: