So much for Simpsons tonight; that terminator tv show is starting.

[Deja Q]

The opening monologue alone... poorly read or the person is striving not to laugh and puke.

[DarkTirade]

1. I'm sure the show will suck...

but on the bright side: Naked Summer Glau.

Damn it, now I wish I had a TV... :\

[Orrex]

3. To my surprise...

The show actually sucked a great deal less than I had expected. It's certainly far superior already to that awful Bionic Woman. And as much as I like Linda Hamilton, her voiceover in T2 was no better. I'm betting that they sought to match the sound/feel of the current one to the one we'd already seen.

Assuming that all three films (so far) are canon, then there are some matters of continuity that they'll ultimately have to address, but in the grand scheme that's a minor consideration.

I'm not entirely thrilled with they way that the actor played the surrogate Arnold terminator (assuming it's another T-800), but John Connor's character was played convincingly, and even Sarah gave a satisfying portrayal.


I'm sufficiently intrigued to watch again tomorrow.

[DarkTirade]

4. Yeah, all that...

and naked Summer Glau, right? :)

[Orrex]

5. Briefly

And she took out three guys while she was starkers, incidentally.

[DarkTirade]

7. Ah to be a fly on the wall in that movie set...

I've had a crush on her ever since Firefly. :P

[quip]

15. That was awesome, except the director should be fired

That camera shot was panned WAAAAAY too far back ;)

[Orrex]

17. Oh, you...

Come on--you got to see most of her leg pretty clearly when she high-kicked that one guy.

[quip]

21. Even in HD it wasn't satisfying (and I don't even HAVE HD)

:shrug:

BTW, that particular time slot was supposed to be 24's season 7 debut! :grr:

This show is a pale trade-off IMO.... :mad:

[Orrex]

23. Why don't you buy Kiefer another round and let him drive you home?

IIRC, Jack Bauer from 24 is still doing 48.

That, plus the writers' strike, really put the kibosh on this season.

[quip]

24. Yeah, though I've read that he is a model

prisoner. Wouldn't THAT be life imitating art: he breaks out of prison, someone tries to tase Al Gore and Keifer brings him to justice, only to discover that the whole global warming issue is a canard invented by....

Well, you get the idea. :crazy:

But yeah, between the strike and the striped suit, 24 is 20 leagues under the sea... :cry:

[Fox Mulder]

6. I've liked her ever since I saw her on an episode of "Angel".

She's cute.

[Dogmudgeon]

12. I thought it was pretty good

The whole idea of the Terminator franchise now seems to be the idea that one's fate is the real Terminator; that we are all running from our fate, but someday, like John Conner leading the rebellion, we will conquer it. And the jump from 1999 to 2007 allows the writers to kind of "rub it in". Short-period time travel as a dramatic technique is pretty successful.

The acting was quite good, too. Hope it can be sustained.

--p!

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

14. I caught a sneak peak (saw the leaked pilote episode) a while back.

First time Summer Glau came on screen, I was trying to place her. She was even more striking than I remembered her.

I liked it. It was ambitious enough, and has potential to be good.

I kind of hope it completely ignores Terminator 3, personally.

[Orrex]

16. It seems that they may already have done so (SPOILERS)

I kind of hope it completely ignores Terminator 3, personally.

Since they jumped to 2007 at the end, then we're already out of sync with the timeline of T3 (which I actually found to be generally satisfactory). However, if T4 (starring Christian Bale) goes ahead, then they'll likely need to decide whether to keep it consistent with T3 or with the series.

Curious!

(incidentally, I dig your screen name. I just watched that again this weekend.)

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

20. I think they're diverging

The movies will probably be a different entity than the television series, even though they both came from the same source material. Since in T3, Skynet went online before 2007, where the television series is sitting at right now.

I'm fine with that.

My major problem with T3 was that it completely negated everything about the first two movies' underlying theme: "The future is not set, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves"

When actually it turned out to be: "Whoops! Skynet was destined to be created! Guess you suck, huh? Now eat nukes." :shrug:

[Deja Q]

18. That was Linda Hamilton?!

Maybe if they paid her more, she wouldn't have come across so bored and/or embarrassed...

I'll have to re-watch T2 again... never saw (or cared for in the previews) T3...

As for continuity, it's better to avoid the 1997 thing. :D

Maybe I should give it a go, but if "Firefly" could take what was in westerns, "Blake's 7" and improve upon it without having to make a copycat of the original entities, that seems less hypocritical than just digging up an old show, adding Buffy humor and violin music, parroting any topical social issue, giving it the same name, and calling it a re-imaged show...

"Firefly"'s difference is that it took a concept like prostitution and compared it to something in such a way it was deemed the more noble profession. And, yeah, it was a well written episode. I think the episode's title was... "Shindig".

Trouble is, "Firefly" demanded thought and wasn't another Trek TNG clone so people didn't care.

[Orrex]

22. No--I think I was unclear

I was comparing the current voiceover with Hamilton's from T2. Specifically the part after the confrontation at the Dyson household, when the camera shows the lines on the darkened road, just as the series opened.

I always found her voiceover to be flat and kind of perfunctory, so when the current VO had the same sort if ineffectual monotone, it "fit" the tone of what had gone before.



IMO what killed Firefly, more than its demands of thought, was its timeslot. Friday primetime is notoriously unkind to science fiction series.

However, pretty much every science fiction show that gets cancelled is praised by its fans as being "too smart to be successful" or some variation on that theme...

[DarkTirade]

26. However this was a clear case of Fox bolluxing the show before it ever hit the airwaves.

As they did with NUMEROUS other shows in the last few years. Some of which never got a following, but many of which garnered a huge following afterwards.

[Release The Hounds]

2. Plus another disappointing Family Guy.

[Deja Q]

19. I was too busy watching "Futurama" again...

:D

FG used to be funny (seasons 1 and 2 were as much witty as they were bringing back fond memories of gen-x'ers childhood icons while being stingingly funny in the jokes), but season 3 onward went way OTT (IMHO, of course.)

Still, it influences society, so if I want to fit in, I may as well do what they do. Like how everybody should. :7

[Radical Activist]

8. I hate it when they interrupt sunday night cartoons

to kick off whatever their latest crap show is.

[Orrex]

9. What bothers me is that they still aired Family Guy and American Dad

I wished that they'd used that hour of airtime to show the manhunt and execution of the creators of those congenitally unfunny shows.

But that's just me...

[quip]

10. That's sick

But fun-nee! :rofl: :hi:

[pokerfan]

11. Watching the Larry McMurtry miniseries instead

Comanche Moon. I know that it will have more deeply drawn characters than the Terminator.

[Orrex]

13. Maybe, but it won't have as much time travel, either

YMMV

:shrug:

[PVnRT]

25. Or hawt naked robot chicks