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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:39 PM
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OMG - I just found this thread and it's wrong on so many levels and so so so so sad
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 05:40 PM by LynneSin
http://www.freejesus.net/home/viewtopic.php?p=43639#43639

A woman tries to justify that it wasn't her fault her gay son killed himself when she told him all that horrible stuff that misguided Christians believe about homosexuality (I say misguided because I am Christian and I recognize the fact that homosexuality is so taken out of context in the bible)

The worst part is the mother actually admitted "But if I had been nicer and said I didnt mind, he probably wouldnt have killed himself" and these idiots STILL tell her she did the right thing.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:41 PM
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1. looks like the usual bullshit
that right wing Christians say, think, and act on regarding homosexuals

very sad

all too common

:cry:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:43 PM
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2. ... aaaand I got about four posts down before I couldn't bring myself to read any more.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:46 PM
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3. This serves to remind us how lucky we are. n/t
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:51 PM
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4. Oh Dear God!
Gay activists have disseminated one horrible lie after another to get liberals and cheap grace Christians on their side


What in the hell is a " cheap grace Christian"?
Sounds like they're talking about me and " my kind".

Man, these Fundies are so OUT THERE.

They wouldn't know Christianity if they were hit over the head with it.

His death was so needless, brought about by ignorance and bigotry.

:(
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:53 PM
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5. Thank God I'm an athiest...
I'm still confused about the soul of the universe and accept the many words for "God", but these people are making it up as they go along. This is nuts...
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:57 PM
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6. I feel ill.
I see what you describe. I also see some posters avoiding the issue, knowing damn well that mom's acceptance might have made a difference to her boy, though perhaps not the different between life and death. Everything about the situation is appalling.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:00 PM
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7. The boy just wanted his mama to love him
Even if she didn't like homosexuality because of what is in the bible - she should have just told her son she loved him for WHO HE IS. That's it - nothing else.

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:07 PM
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9. Of course.
And his mama did wrong, but she thought she was doing right and that, to my mind is part of the tragedy. People, gay and straight are occasionally painfully rejected by their parents and not all of them kill themselves, is what I was thinking. I was not thinking that biblically-inspired hate and bigotry are commendable or even acceptable.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:01 PM
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8. The OP only has 9 posts
Maybe they were just trolling.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:08 PM
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11. Good point.
And if so, see what the troll has revealed about these "christians"! :puke:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:07 PM
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10. F the bible
So There....:hi:
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:25 PM
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12. "I don't think it's up to us to try and second-guess God's judgement."
...that is, I won't guess if your son went to hell or not, but you WERE right to judge and shame him to the point of suicide...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:13 PM
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13. We know the suicide rate amongst gay youth is huge. That is why
the GOP has blood on their hands for promoting hate.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:18 PM
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14. seriously -- there can be no peace between my peeps and these folk.
it just isn't on.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:31 PM
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18. as long as you know not all Christians are like that
I work with Christians who want to promote peace and love. We actually do stuff that Jesus would do.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:21 AM
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26. i am a christian.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:31 PM
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15. That's an interesting three year old thread.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 07:35 PM by Ptah
Edit to add, the main index, http://www.freejesus.net/home/index.php
shows no entries since Fri Dec 28, 2007.

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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:40 PM
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16. I couldn't even read it
I can't imagine how horrible it would be to lose a child that way, particularly if one contributed to that child's despair. Personally, I'd probably like the strangle the fool woman for being such a judgmental jerk, but I expect having to live with what she did is punishment enough.

I think I'd be a little sad to find out my child was gay - not because there's anything wrong with that, but because gay people have a tougher time in this warped society. You always hope your kids will be spared from cruelty. But I certainly wouldn't love him or her any less, and I'd hope my child found a caring partner to help with the rougher times.

Now if my child confessed to being Republican, I'd really be upset. I'd be tearing my hair out, and lamenting "Where did I go wrong!?"
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:43 PM
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17. She needs rescuing and mental health services.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:44 PM
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19. I won't read it
I *almost* wish she'd kill herself :mad:
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:56 AM
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20. See, this sort of shit is why I've never admitted that I'm bisexual to my mother.
I think my old man suspects, and doesn't care. (My dad loves me, and I love him.)

My mother, on the other hand, is a bigoted cunt. She once refused to let me use a hotel gym at night -- a reasonable hour, too, about 9 - 9:30 PM -- because she was afraid, and I quote, "gays might be there."

I suspect that if I ever actually came out to her, she'd react the exact same way. And frankly, I'm not likely to kill myself. Not anymore. I've had more than enough of her bullshit over the years. Now I'd probably kill her. And I don't need to be tossed in prison. (Bisexual guy in the joint for matricide? Not going to do too well.)
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:03 AM
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21. The board's admin is apparently a self-hating "ex-gay" type
from Grand Fucking Junction Colorado, no less. If you have never been to Grand Junction, it's not even really Colorado. It's more like a suburb of Utah, and located between the Rockies and the most barren, desolate land you have ever seen in your life. It's no wonder people there lose their marbles :crazy:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:06 AM
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22. I would NOT want that woman's karmic freight bill. (nt)
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:07 AM
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23. K&R... The playground biases extend to adulthood for some... n/t
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:57 AM
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24. Do NOT get me started
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:00 AM
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25. Can't imagine why her husband might have left...
:eyes:
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