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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:09 AM
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The RetroLounge Daily Poem Thread (Sun 1/20/2008)
The Elements

Fire for anger, water for change,
earth for stability, wind−well,
who knows what wind is about?

In life, they mix so. Like that day,
I was taking a shower
with my lover and she told me

she was sleeping with
her ex-lover again. Wasn´t
a fire supposed to leap

out of me, or wasn´t water
there to drown the flames,
or wash her clean of betrayal?

Wasn´t the hillside out the window
there to settle me, inform me
of the underlying design
and long term balance in things?

Wasn´t some wind going to blow
those words away and leave us
soapy and sweet smelling

in that shower, just about to
towel off, have a drink,
cook dinner and read a little?

Wasn´t my love for her supposed to mean
I could step into the same river
over and over again?

Eloise Klein Healy

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Eloise Klein Healy is the author of six books of poetry: Building Some Changes (Beyond Baroque Foundation); A Packet Beating Like a Heart (Books Of A Feather Press); Ordinary Wisdom (Paradise Press/re-released by Red Hen Press); Artemis In Echo Park (Firebrand Books), nominated for the Lambda Book Award and released as a spoken word recording by New Alliance Records; and her collections from Red Hen Press, Passing and most recently, The Islands Project: Poems for Sappho. The Inevitable Press published her chapbook Women’s Studies Chronicles in the Laguna Poets Series.

Healy’s work has been widely anthologized in collections including The World In Us: Lesbian and Gay Poetry of the Next Wave; The Geography Of Home: California’s Poetry of Place; Intimate Nature: The Bond Between Women and Animals; Grand Passion: Poets of Los Angeles and Beyond; California Poetry: From The Gold Rush to the Present; and Another City: Writing From Los Angeles. She has also published bio-bibliographic reviews of the poets Muriel Rukeyser and Elsa Gidlow.

Ms. Healy has been awarded artist residencies at The MacDowell Colony and Dorland Mountain Colony. She was the Grand Prize winner of the Los Angeles Poetry Festival Competition, and she has received grants from The California Arts Council, the CSUN Merit Award Program, and a COLA Fellowship from the City of Los Angeles. She directed the Women’s Studies Program at California State University Northridge and taught in the Feminist Studio Workshop at The Woman’s Building in Los Angeles. The Founding Chair of the MFA in Creative Writing Program at Antioch University Los Angeles where she is Distinguished Professor of Creative Writing Emerita. Healy is also the co-founder of ECO-ARTS, an ecotourism/arts venture and Guest Poet at the Idyllwild Summer Poetry Festival. Her imprint with Red Hen Press, Arktoi Books, established in 2006, specializes in publishing the work of lesbian authors.



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:hi:

RL
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:47 AM
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1. shades of the "psycho" shower scene
Is what I see.

:donut:

:hi:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 03:45 PM
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31. Really?
:hi:

RL
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:51 AM
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2. That was amazing
I wish I could write like that. That moment in time was captured perfectly.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:47 PM
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28. Thanks for commenting...
:hi:

RL
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:38 AM
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3. exactly what am i supposed to feel at this moment?
since i'm not the jealous type -- i'm always confused with a lot of folk who make revelations like that.

cause i don't care -- so i get what she means with the fire, earth -- and of course the poor confused wind.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:42 PM
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5. Maybe it depends on the answer...
to her last line of the poem.

:hi:

RL
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:18 PM
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16. oh -- i think you're right -- it all depends on the answer.
i'm not hurt if my partner sleeps with their ex -- i may very well do the same -- but it's the agenda -- if there is one -- behind the telling.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:09 PM
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21. So very true...
The agenda is what causes the wreckage, not the act itself...

RL
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:29 PM
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23. indeed.
:hi:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:31 PM
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24. Didya get your book yet?
Let me know how you like it.

It looked pretty interesting.

RL
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:56 PM
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29. not yet -- i can't wait.
it looks very interesting.

did you get your check?

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 03:10 PM
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30. not yet, should be here monday...
:hi:

RL
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:17 PM
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4. Thanks, RL!
:hi:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:32 PM
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25. Most welcome...
Now go find that muse...

He's waiting for you to catch up to him...

:hi:

RL
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:49 PM
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6. That's wonderful. I love the double entendre
"element" and foundation...strength to withstand change without being overrun.

Truly, wonderful.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:50 PM
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7. Yeah, and I liked the scene she evoked...
You'd think there would be a better place to disclose this than while showering...

:hi:

RL
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:55 PM
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9. this poem has some beautiful allegorical imagery
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 01:00 PM by Tuesday Afternoon
but, :grr:

that.was.not.nice.

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:09 PM
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10. What was not nice?
:shrug:

RL
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:11 PM
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12. telling her in the shower --
I dunno. I could not get passed that. Just me, I guess.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:31 PM
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19. Ah, yes. Showers are for, well, you know...
Tell her later...

RL
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:14 PM
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14. I dunno, actually.
I sort of like the idea of neutrality and wash-it-clean'ness the shower represents.

And, too, one is completely naked in the shower - what better place to *bare* your soul as well? :) And for the narrator - nothing to hide behind, right, except the steady stream of "change" itself.

I dig it. Really.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:10 PM
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22. Mmmm, nice reading...
nothing to hide behind, right, except the steady stream of "change" itself

very nice...

RL
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:52 PM
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8. My dear Retro...
Ah, how sad...

You know you can never step into the same river over and over...

It's beautiful...

Thank you, sweetie...


I have some poems I've been working on...I'm going to PM them to you, if you don't mind...

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:10 PM
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11. Got them.
thanks

:hug:

RL
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:11 PM
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13. Thank YOU!
I look forward to your response, whenever you have time...

:hug:
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:16 PM
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15. oh CaliforniaPeggy
You were in my dreams this morning. You were the seller at a fair booth - I can't recall what you were selling but you were there and greeted me by name.

Isn't it cool how deeply embedded people in our periphery become? :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:19 PM
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17. My dear zingaro!
Wow, how amazing...

It is very cool how we become so embedded...

Thank you for telling me, sweetie...

:hug:
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Gonzo Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:28 PM
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18. Ok, Retro, get outta my head!
It's just getting downright eerie how you continue to post poems using phrases and themes that have been swirling in my head of late.

:hi:

Once again, your timing couldn't be more ON... I've been thinking of how to represent the elements in some of my artwork... how elements relate to the interactions of people... the energy created between people and the planet...

My ideas are not well formed yet, but you are giving me some help... imagery... inspiration... it is taking shape.
Thank you. :hug:

One conclusion I've come to is that sometimes anger is merely the misspent fuel of fear. A fire should burn with passion.

Here's a little bit of something...

“Gather round my friends
It’s time to tend the fire
Divine embers glow within
fueled by imagination, dance, and desire

Draw close and circle in
feel the energy surge
Each one but a fragment
we become whole when we merge” ~ Green Meanie

PS. I'm one of those EVIL fiery redheads :evilgrin:

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:32 PM
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20. I love / hate / fear / run from / run to Redheads
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 01:33 PM by RetroLounge
and it wasn't a coincidence that the fifth element was a redhead (closer to orange, but same thing).

:hug:

RL
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Gonzo Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:32 PM
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26. ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0coJxNgASs


The Cult: Fire Woman (You just know she's got to be a redhead!) :rofl:

Fire woman, yeah

Shake, shake, shake, shake it, yeah

Wound up, can't sleep, can't do anything right, little honey
Oh, since I set my eyes on you
I tell you the truth
T-t-t-t-twistin' like a flame in a slow dance, baby
You're driving me crazy
Come on, little honey
Come on now

Fire
Smoke, she is a rising fire, yeah
Smoke on the horizon, well
Fire
Smoke, she is a rising fire
Oh, smokestack lightning
Smokestack lightning

Well, shake it up, you're to blame, got me swayin' little honey
My heart's a ball of burnin' flame
Oh, yes it is
Trancing like a cat on a hot tin shack
Lord, have mercy
Come on little sister
Come on and shake it

Fire
Smoke, she is a rising fire
Oh, smoke on the horizon, yeah
Fire
Smoke, she is a rising fire
Oh, smokestack lightning, baby

I was thinking what I've been missing
I'll tell you truthfully, well
She's coming close now
Oh, I can feel her
She's getting close to me
And I never, yeah

Fire
Smoke, she is a rising fire
Oh, smoke on the horizon
Fire
Smoke, she is a rising, rising, rising fire
Smokestack lightning
A-j-j-j...

Burnin' out
and shake it, baby.
Come on and burn it.

I say send down fire to me
say send down fire to me
say send down fire to me, yeah!

Fire woman, you're to blame...
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:36 PM
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27. One of the best shows I've seen
was the Cult in the early 80's in Chicago.

They kicked ass.

and yes, definitely a redhead.

RL
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