I tend to think of sex objects in general, as sex objects.

[PassingFair]

[lost-in-nj]

1. Does this post

have anything to do with the rubber testicle post which btw is underneath it right now????


:rofl: :rofl:


lost

[PassingFair]

2. We women don't NEED rubber testicles hanging from our trucks.

Because we ARE sex objects.

Haven't you heard?

[MrScorpio]

3. I see that I struck a nerve. Excellent

Now let me reveal what my point.

First in terms of sexual objectification. And only in these terms; that as potential partner, my choice is female. And that as a potential partner, a certain amount of objectification is required rather than objectification for something else like a car or a rake, or whatever. The same would go for children or relatives. Basically, as a general choice for a potential sexual partner, my choice would be a woman as long as the desire was mutual.

BTW, rubber dollies would never be seen as the focus for intimacy, by me. A live woman is much more fun.

Basically, my belief that we should except we're all sexual creatures. In my particular case, as a heterosexual male, again I would desire a female.

Frankly, I find it strange that we Americans go out our way to deny our own sexuality and the sexuality of others, regardless of orientation.

My basic motto is that consenting adults, with exceptions regarding incest, should be fee to except their own sexuality and the sexuality of others in this society.

[PassingFair]

4. OK. I get it, you're not gay.

Why are you making such a big deal out of it?

What is your problem?

[bicentennial_baby]

5. ...

:rofl:

:applause:

[MrScorpio]

6. There's no problem

All I wanted to do was just throw up a flag and see what would happen.

I will say that there is an excellent thread on misogyny in GD.

A great discussion on it is there.

What I wanted to try here was a little experiment to see who would confuse sexual desire with misogyny.

Only, because I like stirring shit up from time to time.

[PassingFair]

7. No problem.

Use this next time.

You won't get your hands dirty.

[skygazer]

8. Ahh, what the hell.... I'll jump in here

I'm not sure who is confused here. For me as a woman, I do not look at all men as sexual objects. I just don't. Even when I'm looking at a guy and thinking he's attractive, it's not automatically going to sex in my head. It's about on a par with the feeling I get looking at an attractive woman - "My, that's a beautiful woman" or "My, that's a great looking guy."

My thoughts aren't moving on to, "I bet he's hung like a mule and an animal in bed." Maybe its me, maybe its women in general. I don't know. But I know I don't feel sexual desire for every guy I see and reading this post and the other post, it sounds like that's what your saying.

Now that's all very fine for you, I guess, but what it sounds like to those of us who look at people as people first, with brains and thoughts and ideas and nice smiles and pretty eyes and... okay, maybe I'd like to go out with you, jumping immediately to "oh, there's a woman, wonder what she's like in bed?" seems a little.... well.... yeah. Mysogynistic.

Maybe that shit about Mars and Venus ain't that far off, I dunno. :shrug:

[PassingFair]

9. If you were a person, you'd understand.

But as an object, you couldn't possibly grasp that you
have breasts, therefore, you are only SECONDARILY a person,
unless you are RELATED (1st generation only) to said individual.

Unless he is sober.

[skygazer]

10. But... but... they're SMALL breasts

They still count?! :cry:

[PassingFair]

11. Doesn't matter.

That vagina's not helping your sovereignty much, either!

:evilgrin:

[Mythsaje]

12. You know...I can't say that my thoughts leap to sex either...

My first sense is of appreciation of beauty, in terms of asthetics. And I see a LOT of beautiful women every day, of all ages and general appearance. In fact, it's almost amazing how many different aspects of beauty there are, and how different women are beautiful in so many different ways from one another.

[MrScorpio]

13. A small point, but an important one...

I never used the word, "All". Nor that I even meant to imply that every woman, regardless of availability, was to be viewed as a potential sexual partner. Also, I never meant that sexual desire was mutually exclusive to any other category, i.e., a human being.

My point, being that these things could have been ironed out in the exchange of conversation.

Also, one other thing, I've known quite a few women who choose to apply the same kind of sexual thinking that's more typically thought of how men think.

I find it very surprising that some of there women were castigated for thinking "outside the norm", as if women weren't supposed to think in those terms.

Even though I have no accreditation in the biology or the other sciences, I thought that it was pretty obvious that as a gender, it was only natural that most women have very intense thoughts on desire and sexuality, if only because of a woman's basic biology is so attuned to it. Women are the only gender to possess an organ dedicated solely for sexual pleasure. And women who have undergone pregnancy and childbirth have remarkably differ physical manifestations to sexual arousal than women who women that never conceived and gave birth.

What I don't get is that how we as a society do so much to repress natural sexuality in women through shame and disdain.

The only thing that I can think for this repression is that it's a tool to subjugate women. By controlling their sexuality, they are controlled.

[PassingFair]

14. Yes. I'm sure you mean well.

One day at a time, and all that.

Bye.