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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:35 AM
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My High School Psychology Teacher Said The Most Profound Thing In My Mind I've Ever Heard
"the person with the least interest in a relationship, controls the relationship"

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:38 AM
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1. My dear Southpawkicker...
And that is really true, unfortunately...

I am so sorry, sweetie...

:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:45 AM
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3. yup
just seems like I'm the one who is always on the more interest side

:hug:
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:38 AM
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2. it's an incredibly hurtful and difficult truth
:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:46 AM
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4. Indeed it is
more insightful than anything I learned in college or grad school for that matter.

human nature... we all want to be loved

:hug:
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:04 AM
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5. This sounds suspiciously like another Clinton thread!...n/t
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:05 AM
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6. LOL
hadn't thought of that one
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:07 AM
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7. The same with the White House/Citizenry dynamic.
It's especially true regarding the televangelists who don't actually believe in God.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:08 AM
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8. it's prolly true about most things
less interest= less emotional investment= much easier to let go of the shit

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:10 AM
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9. Yes, but also less capacity and chance for anything deep and meaningful
:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:19 AM
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11. that is also true
:hug:

thanks
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:19 AM
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10. Wow. I actually came up with that realization on my own about eight years ago...
Right after my ex and I broke up. It blew my mind.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:22 AM
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12. heh, i just wanna know
why i'm always the one with the most interest?

if this is true anyway

oh, btw, sent you an add request on myspace

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:36 AM
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13. Heck if I know...
Why do some people fall harder in love than others? Why do some people have what amounts to a switch they can turn on and off and walk away without looking back? Why do some people become stalkers rather than knowing when to just stand where they were left, that nothing they can do will make a difference.

It's like being a playa in a way. Someone like that gets the guys or women because he or she doesn't CARE about any particular one. Members of the opposite sex are like trains--there will be another one along any minute. The most successful of these, on the other hand, can seem infinitely interested in one person AT THAT MOMENT, but, if rejected, can move on to the next without missing a beat.

I have no doubt that the one with the least interest holds the most power in a relationship. And that most relationships go through a period of struggle between the partners to determine who has dominance. The successful ones achieve a balance. The others...well, we all know what happens to them.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:09 AM
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14. hmm....
good points

a lot to think about too.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:12 AM
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15. So true.
One of the great tragedies of life is that the more desperately you want someone's attention, the less likely they are to give it to you, and the less you give a crap whether they like you or not, the more they like you.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:12 AM
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16. yeah
the irony of life
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:49 AM
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17. So true
I had been chasing a young lady earlier this year with little success.When I gave up on her all of a sudden she changed her tune and started pursueing me.
Go figure.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:28 AM
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49. Once you figure it out, it gets a lot easier.
My strategy for picking up women: do nothing. It's the most attractive thing you can do.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:52 AM
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57. Yep.It drives them crazy.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:50 AM
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18. Dr. Joy Brown said that too, but I don't know if it was original with her.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 08:51 AM by raccoon

Anyway, it is so true.

Edited to add 2nd paragraph.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:59 AM
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19. That's a very old, common understanding.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:02 AM by ThomCat
"The one who loves less is in control."

and, it's a power dynamic that sets one person up for a very nasty separation. You give and give and give, thinking you're giving to the relationship. But instead you're just appeasing someone to keep him/her there. When it falls apart, it hurts all that much more.
:(
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:09 AM
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20. yeah
I guess, hell I don't even know
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:11 AM
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21. That is TOTALLY true
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:17 AM
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23. its been the story of my life
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:15 AM
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22. Wow, that's a strange statement though I can see how it would apply.
It's going to bother me all day.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:18 AM
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24. it's haunted me for nearly 30 years now
but its true
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:22 AM
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25. That is so absol-fucking-lutely true
I've been in both positions and trust me - I'd rather be the one with the least interest because there was just so much less heartache involved.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:45 AM
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34. hmmm....
well I have not

mebbe its time
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quip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:26 AM
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26. This is the theory behind playing hard to get.
Also with buying a car-- do not go into a dealership with your heart set on a particular make/model. You will be eaten alive by the salesmen.

Hang in there, buddy! :hug: :hi:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:44 AM
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33. yeah cars
I've been there both ways

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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:44 AM
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27. Can I quote Newt Gingrich with getting flamed?
He once said (and I'm paraphrasing) "It's amazing how much you can get accomplished when the other side knows that you're ready to walk away from the table."

He's a jerk, but an insightful jerk.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:44 AM
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32. no doubt true
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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:37 AM
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28. Regardless of its truth, who wants control anyway?
Fundamental to loving someone (and being loved by them) is respecting their independence and NOT controlling them. The power struggle that so dominates many relationships is a clear sign of lack of respect, which manifests itself in all kinds of problematic ways in the relationship. (This is of course between consenting adults - parenting is different depending on the child's age.)

I agree that there's always some jockeying to figure out the lay of the land, but abused authority is toxic to a relationship. Those that habitually seek control and thereby remain emotional disinterested ultimately won't fully love someone and won't be capable of recognizing if they are being fully loved.

Yes it hurts more, but it's because you are capable of loving and feeling loved. Considering the alternative, don't go changing!!!

:hug:
KJ
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:43 AM
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30. not even considering it
thanks

:hug:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:40 AM
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29. That is often very true.
:\
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:43 AM
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31. oh well
:hug:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:46 AM
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35. that is both true and untrue. its true in a committed relationship, but arguably
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:48 AM by lionesspriyanka
if you are perservering someone who isnt interested in you, its not all that true.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:53 AM
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39. well when someone
tells you they love you

then that they don't want to hear from you again

all in the same day

that kinda messes with your head ya know?

and yeah, i thought until last night that they were interested in me
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:56 AM
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45. no i didnt mean that specifically but people have accused me of leading them on and taking
the power away from them.

well regardless of how one cuts it, if you know you care about me more than i care about you, and you still stay, really whose fault is that?

or

power can be given and taken willingly is my point i guess.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:57 AM
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46. ok
only the heart (in my case) gives itself too freely I guess
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:00 AM
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48. well i dont want to turn this into a personal issue. i am not sure about your case
i was really talking about my life experiences.

some times one is a victim, sometimes one wants to play a victim.

sometimes we need to take ownership of our feelings.

i have been on both sides of this equation.


:shrug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:33 AM
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53. okay
then lets not turn it into one

:hi:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:46 AM
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36. I've certainly been there
on any number of occasions it seems I was always the more interested one.

If only I realized the truth of this earlier and ended it myself, I would have saved myself a lot of grief.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:54 AM
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41. I suppose I realized it
earlier

but deluded myself into believing it would be otherwise
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:51 AM
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37. Well how does one get into a relationship and then dominate?
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:53 AM
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38. With whips and chains?
:shrug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:55 AM
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43. I'm not talking so much about that
although I'm sure that takes place too
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:54 AM
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40. Wow.
That is so true.

Story of my life.

{sigh}
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:55 AM
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42. mine too Judy
mine too
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:56 AM
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44. Ouch. Yeah...
*sigh*

:hi:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:58 AM
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47. ouch
is right

:hug:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:30 AM
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50. The French say
"L'un aime, l'autre se laisse aimer."

One loves, the other lets him (or her) self be loved.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:32 AM
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51. interesting
hadn't heard that before

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:32 AM
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52. Absolutely true - just like "A war isn't finished until the loser decides it's finished"
That's the problem with trying to have power over other people - it never really works, and is all an illusion.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:33 AM
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54. true enough
power and control are illusions
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:38 AM
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55. It is true
and it's abusive if you think about it.

I really don't want a relationship like that, based on one who has more interest that the other. It means someone is debasing the other and that is a complete turn off to me.

I've only been out with the man I'm seeing a couple of times, it was fun and we have gotten along pretty well, but I'm about to end it because it could wind up to be one of those exact situations.

I would definitely much rather be alone than pine for something that won't ever happen.

Whatever happened to mutual caring and equality?

*Sigh*
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:40 AM
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56. I've asked that for several years
haven't felt it

thought i felt it recently in a relationship but i guess i was wrong

*sigh* is right

sucks

sorry about your situation

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:54 AM
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58. Oh, I'm alright
At least I can recognize it now and stop it before it gets out of hand.

I have several meetup groups that I belong to and I intend to be very busy with those. There are plenty of interesting and caring men who would be glad to spend time with me; I just have to find them. :-)

You too, SPK.

:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:04 PM
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59. I'm sure there are
men who who are interesting and caring and would be glad to spend time with you

:hug:

thanks
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