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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:21 PM
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For all who feel superior because the Giants won, or feel lesser because Patriots lost...
please grow up.

It was a game - a couple hours of millionaires throwing a ball around.

If you find your sense of value because "your" team won, you are sad.

If you feel somehow less of a human because "your" team lost, you are sad.

Please, people, stop finding your personal worth and value - or the worth and value of your geographical region - based on whether millionaire ball (or puck) handlers, who by complete random chance wear a shirt with your geographic region's name on it - win a sporting event.

It's just fucking sad.


Really, really, really, really fucking sad.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:32 PM
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1. So your team didn't make the playoffs either?
It's just sad. It's really, really, really fucking sad. ;-)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:34 PM
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2. I don't "have" a team.
My self-identification comes from within.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 PM
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3. I don't know that I'd put it quite that way,
but I agree with Rabrrrrrr. No matter how I look at it, the phenomenon of personally identifying with a team seems very odd to me. Allow me to mention, however, that the Giants suck. :7
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blockhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 PM
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4. No shit.
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:38 PM
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5. I'm from Boston, but I don't care for football.
If the Pats won, woohoo; if some other team won, woohoo. I couldn't care less.

Woohoo.

Go, whoever.

Please. Let's move on. This discussion is as interesting as American Idol.

Woohoo.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:28 AM
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6. You know, that's the smartest thing I've read all day.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:32 AM
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7. Any advice for those who feel superior
because they don't watch sports and those who feel lesser when lectured by those who don't watch sports?
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:38 AM
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8. Not a sports fan? Welcome to ignore!
Just kidding.

I'm a big sports fan, but I do understand why others get sick of all the sports talk.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:51 AM
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9. Why should anyone feel superior based on a game they didn't play
and probably even watched under the influence?

:spank:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:27 AM
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15. That's the part I don't get. People running around "WE won! WE won!"
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 08:27 AM by Rabrrrrrr
Who is "WE", O man who watched the game from his armchair?

I don't attend concerts and say "WE rocked the house! WE rocked the house!"

Nor do I run around after hearing a symphony saying "MY orchestra played really well! You suck!!"

:shrug:

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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:41 AM
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16. Clearly you are superior to the rest of us. And a lot more grown
up. I just enjoy sports and figure that they keeps me young.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:16 AM
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17. Nowhere have I said enjoying sports is bad or wrong.
It's people finding their self-identification (whether personal or communal/geographic) through how "their" team does that I find bothersome.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that I think enjoying sports is wrong or bad.
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:37 AM
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19. Well, I am a bad cliche of all the things that you don't like!
I always refer to my team as 'we', I get waaaay too happy when we win and waaaay too pissy when we lose. But I try not to put my love of sports into people's faces who aren't fans.

The fact that you are a DUer far outweighs the fact that we don't see eye to eye on sports.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:20 PM
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25. I can respect that you celebrate your team's successes
by overturning cars downtown later in the evening.

:rofl:
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:25 PM
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26. No cars were overturned in celebration of Super Bowl XX. (1986)
However a few buggies were overturned the last time my Cubs won the World Series!

:rofl:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:04 AM
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10. I've expressed the same sentiment many times, though
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 02:04 AM by notmyprez
not quite as eloquently as you did. :-) I hate sports (on general principle) because it is so elevated in importance in this world. And it isn't. Important.

I'm from Boston and I watched the game last night. I thought it was sad that my city's team lost only because they could have had an absolutely perfect season, which would have been cool. Unfortunately, it will still take up way too much time on the local news: instead of endlessly celebrating a great victory the talking heads will be endlessly speculating on what went wrong. :argh:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:06 AM
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11. It was refreshing to have some live, unpredictable entertainment, instead
of the endless march through the mud of politics. The Super Bowl was a breath of fresh air.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:02 AM
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12. I'm a Giants fan. Have been for many years.
For me, the game was about connecting with family who share the same feeling about a team. Passing that down to my only son.

I don't think I 'identify' with the team as much as I feel able to share a mutual like with my brothers.

I feel the same way about the UCONN Huskies Women's basketball team. I got my graduate degrees at UCONN, but my real love for the team stems from my dad's love for them. He never missed a game. And, I miss him a lot.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:40 AM
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20. I know what you mean.
That's how I feel. I grew up a Giants fan b/c I use to watch every game with my Dad.

My Dad and I went to separate Super Bowl parties on Sunday but when I came home, I ran up to him and gave him a big hug and I started to cry. Yeah, I am a baby.

But there is a bond when you root for a team, esp. if it's the same time as a family member.

I am going to enjoy this win and be very very happy about it and I don't care what anyone says.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:10 AM
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13. eh. lighten up
it's sports. those who follow the games have every right to gloat when their guys win and feel down when their guys lose.

its sports

sports bring people together. with sport you are allowed to take a couple hours outta life for a while. it's ok.

gloat away Giants fans and don't feel bad about it.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:36 AM
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14. You are only saying that...
cause you are happy that the Cowboys lost.....;-)
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:25 AM
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18. I enjoy watching the game, and it's fun to have a home team to root for to keep it interesting. But
that's all it is. When my home team loses in the playoffs (or doesn't even get there), then I root for the team from the same division/conference that does.

The real value in this year's Super Bowl wasn't so much the winner (though I did have to root for the NFC team). It was the entertainment value of the game. Gotta admit, it was a great one.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:34 PM
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22. Of course, Dave, it if was our Cowboys who lost the bowl
Every barb and insult would be more than welcomed on DU. It was a few weeks ago when the Giants won at Texas Stadium.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:17 PM
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24. I suppose that's so...
When they lost, I was disappointed, but then rooted for Green Bay and then New York in the playoffs. All I was really interested in at that point was who had the best shot of getting the Lombardi Trophy back in the NFC.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:21 PM
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21. I don't "feel" superior
I **am** superior. But not because the Giants won. I just am.

Bake
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:26 PM
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27. that's the spirit!
:thumbsup:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:39 PM
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23. Oh come off it - it's football. This is what we do
We talk a little smack and then we all hug it out in the end.

If you don't get it, don't want to get it or perhaps once got it but opted to no longer get it - that's your choice. But don't take away the entertainment that for many of us enjoy.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:45 PM
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28.  marx said something about art making people forget the misery
of their life and believing that things could be better. that art is part of the system that keeps the poor, poor.

i think sports is much more true of that. people think their home team is somehow allied to them, not realizing that the millionaire athletes, team owners etc are not in any part a part of them

it is not true for everybody but it is true for a lot of people

:hi:
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:50 PM
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29. Chomsky talks about sports that way...
in I think Manufacturing Consent.

I love sports, hell I'm passionate about them but at the end of the day I see the bigger picture and know that it's just a bit of escapist fun. I know who the real enemy is, and no, it's not the New York Yankees...as much as I hate to admit it publicly :P
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:19 PM
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31. Chomsky and Marx were great thinkers
but they suck at parties
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:32 PM
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32. true dat...
I think there is something to be said about being *too* serious. I think the world needs people are serious all the time but I don't think we all have to be that way.

I may not be saving the world but I think there is something to be said for drinking some beer, eating some wings and enjoying some football
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:56 PM
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30. I love sports and root for certain teams....
...but since I was a teenager I haven't been INTO a team as much as the game itself. I root for the Pats and Bruins, etc, but I really just want to see good, enjoyable games, regardless of who wins or loses. I like the games more than any one team, and feel no real emotional investment in any of them. It seems silly to root for a team just because they're the home team when 99% of the players come from somewhere else anyways. Basically they're mercenaries, and few teams have more than a couple home town players.

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