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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:37 AM
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I think I'm going to sue the makers of ambien.
The first time I told Ali I was going to marry her it was during a late night talk I vaguely remembered. I don't eat or drive on ambien but I do occasionally have heart to hearts with Ali in the middle of the night. I just start talking to her and answer her questions. I occasionally hit her up for sex too. Apparently she has recommended to her girlfriends that they give their lovers ambien for endurance purposes.. I only occasionally have fleeting memories of these incidents.

Last night I did a little shopping alone and was thinking about our up coming marriage and relationship. I came to realize that not only is she a friend and lover she is also my "road-dog". It's kind of a guy thing, but she fulfills that slot too. I immediately decided that I would never tell her that because of the possibly negative connotations of the "dog" part.

This afternoon she told me about how sweet I was last night. I cringed and asked her if we had another "ambein night". She laughed and said that I was very sweet and that I told her that she was every thing to me and that she was even my "road-dog", among other things.. I had truly resolved to never say that to her earlier that evening.

What the hell!?!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:40 AM
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1. I don't know if I babbled.
I have other meds that cause me to do that.

Ambien caused me to have hallucinations. When my walls ripple with color and the cats turn green it's time to stop taking Ambien.

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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:43 AM
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4. Duuuude..
That makes taking more then one so tempting, but for certain "ethical" reasons I can't.
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Zephyrbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:45 AM
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6. Oh, hell no!
That's when you start taking it for sure!

Timothy Leary, where have you gone??? He's at the Ambien labs!

B-)

Zephyr
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:14 AM
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18. That's funny... only time I've ever hallucinated was because of a lack of sleep... :P
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:19 PM
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30. Me too!
Felt like I'd a taken a hit of acid. So no sleep and really violent half asleep half awake dreams. That shit is scary.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:08 PM
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34. That happened to me too
A roller coaster was coming out of a wall, things started looking like the trippy part of 2001, I got to the bathroom and saw my face was a pulsating series of vivid colors, and when I threw up, it was bright, glowing purple.

Doc said that it was a rare side effect, prescribed something else. A couple years later, I found out that the recommended dose had been cut in half in the time since I took it. Something about the higher dose not being more effective at anything other than causing hallucinations and other side-effects.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:07 AM
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41. now I want it
I've tried taking sleeping pills a few times, and on the rare occasions when they did help me get sleep (I have horrible insomnia), the next day I felt completely drugged out.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:43 AM
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2. My dear puerco-bellies!
You know what I think is happening?

I think the Ambien is releasing you from your inhibitions and so is allowing you to speak from your deepest heart...

And that is a good thing!

I agree with her...you are being truly very sweet to her, and it touches her deeply...

I wouldn't stop it, if I were you...

You can stop taking the Ambien...Just continue to be sweet to her!

:hug:
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:50 AM
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8. I just not comfortable with this. I got a huge mental predisposition for Tinfoilhattery
It's like I am being subjected to truth serum interrogations.. I'm a pretty open guy in general, and I am absolutely honest with Alison about everything. I just want to have the capacity to keep what's crawling around in my head contained there.

:tinfoilhat:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:10 AM
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24. They call Ambien a HYPNOTIC....yet market it as a sleeping pill...
:wtf:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:43 AM
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3. I am sorry but I am LMAO!
:rofl:

:hug:
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:45 AM
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5. I don't take it personally but have several friends who do.
They all report similar things. One of my friends has awakened to find that she's gone on shopping trips to Walgreens or the grocery store and only known because she found the receipts and the items. She's sent off really strange emails that she doesn't remember writing or sending. And her husband has talked to her about those phantom conversations, too.

It's not just you, and I won't be surprised when there's a class action suit. Good luck.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:52 AM
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9. i posted stuff here on DU i didn't remember
when i took ambien

same with lunesta but not so much

ambien

well, did it do what it was supposed to do?

if making me post strange things is it, then yeah,

otherwise

:rofl:
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:54 AM
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11. You? Strange?
Come on...I don't buy that for a minute. :)

:hi:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:58 PM
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40. yup
true
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:53 AM
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10. Umm.. I'm not really thinking of sueing.. Unless
I say something so stupid it gets me divorced.. If that happens IT'S ON!!!!
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zingaro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:55 AM
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12. lol I wouldn't blame you a bit! nt
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:55 AM
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28. I shopped online on ambien.
I wouldn't remember a thing about it, but I'd wake up the next morning and find all these email order confirmations in my inbox. Stuff I'd never buy otherwise. I had to go and cancel them, and return the stuff that shipped. I did keep the face cream, though.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:49 AM
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7. Seriously, folks, Ambien CR made my husband totally a total amnesiac!
And a hungry one, at that.

One night, he ate what appeared to be almost all of 1/2 gallon of ice cream. (He didn't remember that.)

Then, he put the remainder of the ice cream into the REFRIGERATOR, instead of the freezer! (He didn't remember doing that.)

One morning, I found a whole bag of chocolate pretzels under the bed on his side.
(He didn't remember doing that.)

It was a peanut trail that I followed to get to him one morning. (Shells and all... no memory of that.)

After about two weeks, I contacted the manufacturer of Ambien CR, reported the incident, and asked for my money back. They sent us a check for about $40. to cover the cost of the drug.

That's my 2 cents.

Radio Lady in Oregon
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suninvited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:28 AM
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26. I do all those things without the Ambien !
I am a sleepwalker.

Not all the time, maybe two or three times a year (that I know of). I make sandwiches and dont eat them, I clean things a lot, one time I left myself a message on my answering machine saying that I was locked out and was downstairs (that one was quite freaky, I never even knew I left my apartment, and wouldnt have unltil I heard that message).

I wonder if I took Ambien if it would aggrevate my sleepwalking? I am thinking yes.

I have taken it once, and it worked. I dont think I walked around and did stuff that night.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:59 PM
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38. Well, come over to my house for a night or two. Maybe you folks could play gin rummy together and
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 10:59 PM by Radio_Lady
whoever won or lost, neither of you would remember.

Oh, I forgot to ask. Do you snore?

:rofl:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:07 AM
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13. This happened to me recently.
I was freaked because I had no memory at all of a "night" with my husband. He claims we had a great time. I remember nothing. He might just be messing with me. But how will i know?
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:11 AM
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14. That shit scares me
I stopped using it in December. Hard to give up because it's nice to get sleep but I would say and do weird shit when I was on it. Like you describe but without the sweetness lol. I was afraid that I'd end up doing something stupid like drive or call my boss in the middle of the night to tell her to fuck off. Sounds like it's made you realize you're with the perfect woman. That's pretty awesome.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:15 AM
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15. I have trouble sleeping
but I'm afraid to try that Ambien stuff. I've already done amazing things in my sleep without drugs.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:41 AM
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16. My sister-in-law took Ambien when she visited us and went
out of her bedroom for a stroll while half-asleep and forgot she was on the second floor and went down a long flight and broke her wrist. We were horrified. I still call her bedroom the "Roz Room." And also we decided Ambien was not a Good Thing.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:03 AM
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17. Works for some but was hellish for me. Complete and total blackouts.
Horrible feeling. Really scary.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:15 AM
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19. Aww
That made me cry. :cry:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:23 AM
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20. Maybe the gov't should use it instead of waterboarding ...
sounds like people will talk honestly while using it.
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Thirtieschild Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:33 AM
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21. Husband is a death investigator for our small county
Which means he's called when there's an unattended death (unattended by anyone medical). He got a call an hour or so after taking Ambien, apparently was so addled and acting so strange that the family reported that he was drunk. When he insisted he didn't drink, ever, the hospital demanded he come by so they could check him out for a stroke. The worst I've done is buy a $68 green glass turtle on e-bay. And eat. Find evidence in the crumbs I leave behind but the late-night meal I vaguely remember of cornbread, green onions and cherry tomatoes was good.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:35 AM
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22. sweetie have you tried valerian tea? it really helps with the lack of sleep
and has far fewer side effects

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:43 AM
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23. and melatonin works for me just as well as any sleeping pill
with no drugged feeling in the morning

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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:23 AM
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25. melatonin question
Thanks I just looked it up! Where do you get it? Is it something you can find at nutrition or vitamin stores?

I've laid awake all night for my whole life but I decided a couple of years ago to quit it, so now I take one or two Tylenol PM's every night about 9:00.. I'm ready to trade my liver for finally sleeping nights. I wish I'd solved this problem when I was little, not sleeping has really screwed with my life.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:35 PM
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35. You know...
Tylenol makes a product called "Simply Sleep" that is Tylenol PM without the Tylenol, for people just like you who use it as a sleep aid and don't need the pain relief. At least it will save you all the unnecessary ingestion of acetominophin...
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:26 PM
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37. ooo Right??
Is that something sorta new? I need to make the switch, I'll get it next time instead, I bet they have it at CVS.
I've had to take lots of pain pills since a wreck I was in a few years ago so I haven't thought about it much, but sometimes I don't have pains for like a week so I don't need to keep taking tylenol.
I told my gyn. that I was taking something almost every night and she seemed to feel it wasn't gonna kill me, it's really just healthier for me to sleep. anyway blah blah lol, thank you! I will change to it.
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:14 AM
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43. I did the valerian extract after camioe tea, and tried triptriphan too
I go to a VA sleep clinc and have been diagnosed with Delayed Sleep Sequence Syndrome. It is a off set circadian rhythm. I started on tamapazan to ambien to roserum which did not work so I'm back to ambien with muscle relaxer and occasionally 1/2 a tablet of tramadol. A whole tramadol reminds me of my opiod days.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:38 AM
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27. Dude, you are such an embarassment to the Brotherhood!
Just sayin'. Keep off that damn Ambien.

Bake
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:26 AM
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44. I know i know..
I gotta sleep. But in my defense I kept a stripper roomate that kept all comers away EXCEPT ALISON.
Once my stripper shield collapsed I was done.. I have not surrendered. I am still a man because she openly admits that I still have a couple of edges that will be smoothed. Apparently I'm now just a minor remodel. It is your duty to the Brother Hood to weed out the weak. Kill.. me.. kill.. me. NOW.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:18 PM
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29. Sure, blame the Ambien.
:P

I agree with the lioness and Lex -- maybe it's time to try the gentler sleep solutions. At least you'll know that you were sleeping, not awake yet missing the conversation and fun.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:20 PM
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31. Try Lunesta
Never had any probs on it and it works fast; and you can wake up w/in 6 hours and feel great. Ambien made me feel like I was having a bad trip.
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:29 AM
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45. The VA does not offer Lumnesta yet. I got special permission for Roserum
The roserum gave me restless legs and joints, I could not sleep.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:25 PM
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32. I think "road-dog" is so sweet I'm actually all misty-eyed.
I'm always surprised what poetry some people carry in their hearts. I'm glad your beloved can see the love in what you say to her (even when you're not aware you're saying it).
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:27 PM
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33. Stay away from Ambien. It's implicated in a lot of strange incidents.
There are better ways to get sleep.

Various recommendations -

1. Don't drink coffee or eat chocolate after noon.
2. Get plenty of exercise but not after 7 pm.
3. Use your bedroom only for sleeping.
4. Go to bed and get up at the same time every day, even on weekends.
5. If you are suffering from anxiety, see a talk therapist.
6. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables and avoid red meat, sugar, and processed food.
7. Do not drink alcohol before going to bed - it will make you feel sleepy but you'll wake up later - in fact, don't drink much or at all.
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:34 AM
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46. I do the sleep hygene stuff
No coffee after 11am. I am injured so exercise is off. Bedroom has been cleansed of everthing but alarm clocks with white and nature noise. We try to keep a schedule. No anxiety. Fruits and veggies yea I know of them, meats point the victim out. I do not drink any form of alcohol.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:02 PM
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36. I didn't really have trouble with real Ambien
but started having major, major episodes on the generic version. One
of them put me in the hospital. I don't know if there was something
about the absorption rate that was off or what, but I'm steering clear.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:57 PM
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39. I already walk, make phone calls in my sleep, and have lucid dreams.
I'd be scared to see what Ambien would do to me.

A friend of mine once told me about how the very first time she took Ambien she feel asleep pretty quick. When she woke up eight hours later she had dreamed she called her mom and decided to call and tell her about it. As soon as she called here mom started yelling and asking what was wrong. Turns out she actually had called her mom earlier and started telling her about these pills she took that made her see colors and want to do strange things. Her family was from out of state, she had recently moved to a new apartment, and she was calling from a cell phone. Her mom didn't know how to have anybody check up on her so she made her promise to all when she woke up.
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:04 AM
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42. Alison just read your post and thinks that she can "implant" suggestions
I guess I'll be putting more work on the bathroom remodel
:rofl:
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