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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:36 PM
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I have high blood pressure.
Went to give blood at a Red Cross drive and they wouldn't let me. Calling the doctor first thing tomorrow. I have been having headaches lately, this would explain them. Anybody else in the same boat? I am hoping to not take a pill for this but to get it under control with diet and exercise.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:38 PM
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1. I have hypertension.
Really don't be afraid of the meds, they work well. But if you want to try to lower it naturally try to cut out as much sodium from your diet. Also get your cholesterol checked. That could contribute.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:40 PM
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2. Yup, probably time for a recheck on cholesterol.
I got scared yesterday when they wouldn't let me donate. No history of high blood pressure in the family.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:40 PM
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3. My dear redwitch...
It's good that you found out the safe way...

Absolutely, go see your doctor ASAP...

And yes, losing weight and getting some healthy exercise in are the best ways...

But often pills can be very helpful...

I do all of those...

Routine exercise, continue to get the weight down, and take my meds religiously...

Please take care of yourself!

You matter, to us, and to so many others...

:hug:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:55 PM
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5. Thank you Peggy!
:hug:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:46 PM
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28. About exercise:
My BP is ALWAYS down to decent levels following my daily morning 3 mile walk.

I do Nordic Walking.
You use ski poles.
It's like cross-country skiing.
Gives some upper body, cardio workout.
Supposed to burn about 20% more calories than just walking.

You can buy whiz bang graphite poles for $90, or...
make some out of 1/2" pvc pipe, bicycle handlebar handgrips, and rubber crutch tips.
For 5 or 10 bucks.
:-)

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:51 PM
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4. Yep. I'm on a beta blocker and an ACE inhibitor.
They help some, but not as much as I'd wish.

During my flight career I had to take an FAA physical every 6 months.
BP was always a rock steady 120/80.

After I retired I gained some weight and my BP soared.
I've lost the weight (still losing) and that seems to have helped a little.

Just checked and it's 148/84.
Still too high.

Warning...IF you drink alcohol in the evening, takes your meds in the morning. I was taking one a.m. and one p.m.
And sometimes in the evening (after a few Scotches) if I stood up too quick I'd black out. Alcohol consumption can cause a temporary lowering of BP, I am told.

I can take them both in the morning and now no problems.
Good luck with it.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:57 PM
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7. Good to know, thanks!
My goal is to get back to that 120/80! I hope you can continue to lower yours.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:00 PM
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10. I think I need to go in and get my meds tweaked.
I'm taking really basic generics.
There are meds that give you more bang for the buck.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:51 PM
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31. No name calling Trof! I take a beta blocker and have for years.
High BP runs in my family and weight control (I'm thin) isn't an answer for me. But you're right about when to take the meds...as a scotch drinker I can vouch for that!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:56 PM
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32. Scared the crap out of me when it happened.
Stroke?
Brain tumor?
OMG!

I always go for the worst.
Thanks for not making me report you to Will.
:hug:
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:54 PM
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45. I'm taking Metoprolol aand Lisinopril . . .
after a heart attack. I'm not experiencing any problems with them, and they've been working pretty well. I think the trick is finding a doctor who will listen if you do start having problems. There are always other meds to try instead.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:56 PM
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6. Me too. I am under orders to cut out sodium and take walks.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:58 PM
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8. What my doc said about sodium: READ FOOD LABELS.
It ain't the salt shaker that does you in.

A lot of packaged mixes, prepared foods, etc., are LOADED with sodium.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:06 PM
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13. Yep. And all of our food is just that. It's what the food bank has the most of
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:57 PM
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46. Yes indeed.
I am horrified these days when I look at the labels on some of the foods I used to eat on a fairly regular basis. I hadn't been wating the sodium content closely enough. Watch out for canned soups too. Even the reduced sodium ones could do better in that regard.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:12 PM
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16. Good thing spring is coming!
It is hard to walk in Maine in the winter! (Upstate NY too).
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:13 PM
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17. Ayuh! I just went for a long walk. I am doing really badly about cutting out the sodium, tho :^(
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 04:59 PM
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9. May I please give you some advice?
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 04:59 PM by KC2
No on the beta blocker (at least an emphatic NO on Metoprolol...otherwise known as the drug from hell to me) if you are even the SLIGHTEST prone to depression. I suffered through the worst period of depression, in my entire life, last December (about 3 weeks into that drug).

Once I started taking a calcium channel blocker (Verapamil) my bp went down...plus, the headaches I had almost every day, went away!

It's good they caught your high blood pressure. A lot of people don't get theirs checked often enough and end up having a heart attack or stroke (got this whole lecture from dozens of people when I found out mine was high). That is why it's often called "the silent killer."
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:06 PM
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12. I'm on Metoprolol. No problems here but I've never actually been diagnosed with depression. nt
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:15 PM
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19. That medicine took me to a very dark place.
At first, I just became irritable. I remember a fight with my husband. He said, "I think that medicine makes you irritable." And I snapped at him, and said, "Well, YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!" It got worse from there. I started remembering, vividly, details from my mother's suicide... by the time I called and begged the nurse to tell me how to wean off of it, yelling, "At this point a stroke would be preferable!" people finally believed me. Oh, and before I managed to get "weaning off instructions," there was the time I started crying, uncontrollably, at work. :eyes: It hurts to even think about how I behaved during that period. Thank God I now go to a better doctor-- who thoroughly believes I had a depressive reaction to the beta blocker. whew. I wonder, sometimes, if that med might be partially responsible for the spike in the suicide rates among middle age adults.... just thinking out loud.

p.s., I apologize if this was TMI.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:25 PM
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22. I've got my dark days, too (always have). So far the metoprolol actuall seems to have helped >
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 05:28 PM by Gidney N Cloyd
> with that, tho more so with anxiety.
I appreciate the info and it's good knowledge for others reading this thread. Drugs don't affect everyone the same way and we should always monitor for side effects.

edited to add "(always have)" in subject line.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:28 PM
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23. You're right. Not every individual is the same...
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 05:29 PM by KC2
I would just hate somebody to have to go through the side effect I suffered, unnecessarily.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:10 PM
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15. yeah
I was told by a doc a loooong time ago that beta blockers are NOT good for people who have any hint of depression in their family.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:15 PM
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20. I already deal with anxiety. And depression is not uncommon in my family.
No beta blockers for me!
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:24 PM
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21. Since I have anxiety also, the first doc I went to sold me on it...
...with the line, "This is what they give to people who have stage fright." And, I'd already done my homework, and was skeptical. I remember the whole conversation... the doc basically talked me into taking it against my "inner voice" or best instinct. I don't know if it's my customer service/airline training, or what, but when I talk to people in person they very rarely see the depressive side of me. Only when I have a full blown reaction to something do they finally believe me!!

Don't be afraid to get blood pressure medicine, though. The benefits far outweigh the risks. At my Dentist, I learned from the Dental Hygienist that high bp - left untreated over time - can enlarge the heart and cause permanent damage. THAT's when I decided I better do something about mine.

Take care of yourself & "stick to your guns" if you have a bad feeling about anything to do with your health!! :hug:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:39 PM
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24. Thanks. I'm on metoprolol.
Haven't experienced any depression.
At least not outside of my normal 'background' level brought on by the Bush** administration.
:-(
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:43 PM
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38. No problems with me and a beta blocker.
Thank goodness.



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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:00 PM
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11. I've got stage 2 hypertension but never had a headache. Symptoms vary.
There's some interesting developments with chiropractic techniques lately, too.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:07 PM
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14. Grab the garlic oil!
One of the best ever things the Creator, whoever S/he was, gave us. Good luck.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:14 PM
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18. Is garlic a blood thinner? I thought I read somewhere you have to be careful about
taking garlic supplements and aspirin together.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:40 PM
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25. Alert for you!!! I have a friend whose son is 37 who just had a
stroke, a TIA. Docs said it was his blood pressure and managing stress. Take the medicine. It has no side effects. Take this seriously!
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:06 PM
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42. I am taking it very seriously!
I manage stress badly and I know the combination is bad news. And if the doc says I need the meds, I will take them. Thank you Raven and everyone who has responded here. It would seem I am in good company! :-)
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:44 PM
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26. I have had hypertension for at least 25 years
We changed our diet - went to olive oil for cooking, read labels for sodium and eat lots of fresh veggies. I exercise three times a week at the gym and play golf (walking). Still I take meds. I feel good and have no headaches.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:44 PM
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39. Sounds like you are doing all the right stuff
and staying healthy! :thumbsup:

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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:45 PM
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27. So do I
So did both parents and all 4 grandparents. Every doctor I've seen tells me I'm hardwired.

I resisted medication for a long time, but I am now taking my medicine, and have had no adverse reactions.

And, if you are prescribed meds, please take them as directed. A friend's husband is in a wheelchair because he had a stroke - because he stopped taking his medication.




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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:48 PM
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29. I have an electronic BP wrist cuff.
I've checked it against the doc's arm cuff and it's accurate.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:40 PM
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35. My doc asked me to bring my electronic BP wrist cuff in to
his office so he could check it against his--and it was accurate too.

I check mine every day. I'm on meds to keep it down.


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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:51 PM
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40. This is good information
Thank you both - I will be looking into this.

I need a new machine anyway.

Best wishes.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:54 PM
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41. Mine is an "Omron" brand which is what my doc recommended
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:50 PM
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30. Had it since I was 25
well it is controlled fairly well although I had to add a diuretic to my regimen this year. :grr:

I've pretty much taken the same thing for a long time though.

Took some pretty crazy stuff that made me ill before I changed docs and got on a med that worked.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:59 PM
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33. I have it
even after losing weight
exercising
and stop smoking

I STILL FRIGGEN HAVE IT!!!!!!!!


I take a pill...

:hug:


hope its not so so bad.....


lost
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:37 PM
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34. I've been turned down for a donation because of low blood pressure
my top number is never more than two digits and the bottom number hovers around 50 :o
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:41 PM
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36. my stbx
has low blood pressure to....

when he was going to cardiac rehab he drove them
crazy...

and he couldn't donate either.......



lost
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:43 PM
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37. they piss me off sometimes!
"I've seen better blood pressure in coma patients" - HAR HAR - makes me sometimes wonder why I've donated 27 gallons :D
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:24 PM
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44. I think I would prefer your bp problem!
:-)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:06 PM
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48. NOW GET THIS REDWITCH
a new gal at the blood center said to me, "YOU MUST BE A VERY CALM PERSON." HA HA, OMG I cracked up - then when the other people at the blood center (who know me very well) asked what was so funny, I told them - and they all laughed their asses off. :D
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:23 PM
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43. Aww
145/90 here, and I'm in my mid 20s with a BMI of 17. It's genetics and severe stress in my case.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:59 PM
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47. Oh, and one more tip:
When * appears on your TV screen, CHANGE THE CHANNEL IMMEDIATELY. :evilgrin:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:07 AM
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49. You bet!
I can actually FEEL my bp rise when I hear his voice or see his face!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:20 AM
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50. i really had to curb my emotional responses like anger
in addition to a regimen of different pills and some exercise, it seems better. had a heart attack in when i was 36.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:28 AM
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51. I hope you can control it simply on your own.
:hug:

I don't want you to have any side effect or symptoms. Ever. Be well! :hug:

:loveya:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:01 AM
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53. Thanks!
:loveya: back at ya!
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 08:29 AM
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52. Same here
God, I love hitting my forties...

It probably doesn't help that I serve on the local city council, and my district is home to the loudest, most belligerent, nastiest RW activist in town. he has been sending me threatening emails, making snide comments about my wife, and accusing me of everything short of the OJ Simpson murders on his cable show. Not a situation that helps lower the ol' hypertension!

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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 11:05 AM
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54. Hubby just ran for mayor and won.
Might have something to do with the bp problem! Although he is handling it calmly and capably. Little ole mayor's wife me is stressing. And he hasn't taken office yet!
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:57 PM
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56. Congratulations!
A toast to the First Couple!

:toast:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:42 PM
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58. Thanks!
:-)
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:49 PM
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55. in terms of things to be stuck with
high blood pressure is not a big deal AS LONG AS YOU TREAT IT.
Couple pills a day, generic so not expensive.
It has prodded me to start to take better care of myself-so who knows.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:18 PM
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57. see what your doctor says but my hubby's experience was good
part of his metabolic syndrome was a high blood pressure reading, but he was lucky and his body responded very quickly to a low carb diet -- his blood pressure was one of the first readings to return to a normal range

he does not exercise, didn't before, doesn't now, probably can't hurt tho
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 05:45 PM
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59. Update.
Dr says I have temporarily elevated blood pressure due to unusually high stress level. EKG was perfect, blood pressure dropped over 20 points after we talked. We are working on the stress, reducing sodium, and taking home readings with a bp cuff. I am so relieved!
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