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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:40 AM
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Anyone work(ed) an admin asst/secretarial position as EXEMPT?
I have an interview for an executive secretarial position. I believe the position is exempt, and I will have the Crackberry.

Any thoughts pro or con?
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:43 AM
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1. It sounds as though
it may be in an office that has privy to confidential info, and therefore that's why it's exempt.

We have a few positions here like that. They're very high profile. In other words, don't expect to break the dress code and get away with it.

If you think the people you'd be supporting will be good to you and treat you fairly, I see no reason why it shouldn't work out.

My first instinct, though, is to document everything right out of the gate... overtime, what projects you're working on,... all of it.



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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:06 AM
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2. just sounds like a reason not to pay overtime to me.
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 10:11 AM by AZDemDist6
:shrug:

Exempt v. Non-Exempt Employees

Unlike the Family and Medical Leave Act, it makes no difference how long you have worked for an employer. An employee is entitled to overtime pay in the first week that he works more than 40 hours. The key is that not all employees are covered by the law. The law differentiates between “exempt” employees – employees that are not covered by the law – and “non-exempt” employees who are covered by the law.

An employee who is paid by the hour and not by salary, is automatically non-exempt and is entitled to overtime pay for working more than 40 hours in a week. But one must actually be an employee and not an independent contractor (that is you must actually be an employee of the company and not be your own business doing work for the employer).

Generally, high paying executive, professional, or managerial jobs are exempt and therefore cannot get overtime pay. Executives are people who are officers of corporations have a very high degree of responsibility. Professionals are usually people who have to have special educational achievements like, lawyers, architects, doctors, and teachers. Managers are usually people who supervise others. But just because a job title is has the word “manager” in it does not make it exempt. The key is what work the job does.

There are also a list of particularized exemptions which include among others: computer analysts, salespeople, and servers in restaurants. Recent changes in the Federal laws have created more exceptions, but Illinois has recently passed its own law to preserve overtime for many workers. As a result, an employee in Chicago might have a better chance than one in Milwaukee. Therefore, it is important to have a Chicago employment lawyer review your claim.

Employer Tricks and Traps

Employers often make mistakes in deciding which employees are exempt and which are not. Sometimes they even try to trick employees into thinking that they are exempt (not entitled to overtime). You may still be entitled to overtime pay even if: 1) you are on a salary; 2) you have the word manager in your title; 3) your employer says you are an independent contractor (you might not be); or 4) your employer just tells you that you are exempt. Another common trap is for employers to pay employees their regular hourly rate for hours over 40 in a week. If you make $10 per hour and in a 50 hour week you are paid only $500 ($10 x 50 hours), you are still owed an additional $50 because the last 10 hours your overtime pay was $15, not $10. You should have gotten time and a half. These calculations can be tricky and you should review them with an employment lawyer or labor lawyer.

http://www.madufflaw.com/wages/
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:50 AM
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10. as an admin assistant it sound like she cjould be entitled to
chinese overtime. the rate is calculated based on the total number of hours worked divided by salary and then you get 1/2 of that rate for overtime hours.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:56 AM
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11. My thoughts exactly.
I worked briefly as a hybrid exec asst/legal secretary, and there was LOTS of overtime in that job (but I was non-exempt).

I'd find out specifically whether they pay OT. If the answer is no, I wouldn't take the job.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:09 AM
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3. It depends..
But I would also advise you to keep a calendar and good records of what you do and how many hours you work, etc.

The company I used to work for changed a lot of jobs to exempt because a lot of people were getting paid a lot of overtime as hourly employees. If you are working a reasonable amount of hours (you always have to work late or come in early sometimes) then that's no big deal. But if they are making you exempt to get 100 hours of work out of you then that isn't a good thing.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:10 AM
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4. All of the Executive Secretaries and Administrative Assistancts at my company
are exempt. Better bonuses, better benefits. I'd go for it if I were you.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:21 AM
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6. If there are extra benefits such as bonuses, etc. then
yes, she should go for it. However, at my old company and this one I work for now there are a lot of exempt admins and other office employees who get nothing "extra" except extra work.
So it should be checked out because it isn't necessarily a given that it means extra bennies and bonuses. Sometimes it's just extra grief. Hopefully that is not the case here.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:13 AM
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5. If this is considered to be an exempt position by using the traditional ...
parameters (professional, a lot of judgment needed, little supervision needed, etc) then you will be expected to work as many hours as it takes to reach your goals. This includes your employer having access to you at off hours via your Blackberry, email, etc. You will usually not be paid overtime for this extra effort.

That being said, an exempt position SHOULD have some inherent benefits to "make up" for the above. For example, you should not be expected to account for every minute of your time via a time sheet or time clock (unless, perhaps, if you are working under a Government contract). You should also receive compensatory time for extreme unpaid overtime.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:38 AM
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7. What kind of environment is it? Why did the previous AA leave?
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 10:41 AM by raccoon

If you can, talk to the previous AA.

My advice is make sure it's a good working environment.

Of course, if you're desperate for income, all that goes out the window.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:03 AM
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8. YOU ALL ROCK - MORE LATER
Thanks!!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:26 AM
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9. ASK for details
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:36 PM
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12. here's a link to Maryland law
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:45 PM
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13. Thank you, Darlin', but I will work in DC. My googling skills are apparently
crap - I can't find the laws. Help?

Does it help to know that DC gov websites are shit? x(
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suninvited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 01:05 PM
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14. I am an exempt administrative assistant
and I work a lot of overtime hours. I generally get here early and leave late, and rarely take a lunch hour. I do a lot of work at home on the weekends. One time I took on a huge project that I put in over 100 hours at home over several weeks, but I got a raise when the project was finished.

I enjoy the job, make good money and work totally unsupervised. It doesnt mean I dont have to account for my work, if it was lacking it would definitely be noticed by the corporate office.

In Texas they have a specified weekly amount: If you make more than $455 a week in salary, you are an exempt employee. At least thats what I found when I looked it up.
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