Who ARE the 28%.

[regularguy]

Ok, 28% approve of the job %*%!$##! is doing:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3262634

and the question is, of course: who the fuck are these people? So I'm trying to figure it out.


Insanely rich people: 1%
Hard core racists: 10%
Dudes getting back at that hot hippie girlfriend that left them for someone smart: 3%
Miscellaneous angry white men: 5%
Religious fanatics that aren't hard core racists: 5%
Young republicans who plan on being rich or at least intolerant: 4%


What do youse think, sirs?

[huskerlaw]

1. Pretty much!

Though I think there should be a category for "Totally not paying attention"...and I think it would be an alarmingly high amount of people.

On edit: Also, the insanely rich category should be less than 1% as there actually are some Democrats in the top 1%. ;)

[regularguy]

6. I think everyone except for "insanely rich"

could be a sub-group of not-paying-attention/watches fox news.

[nomorenomore08]

2. I suppose there are a certain number of people whose very psychological make-up

prevents them from ever saying bad things about the President, no matter who he is or how shitty a job he's doing. It's a form of from-the-cradle brainwashing, I guess you could say.

[regularguy]

7. Ahh...the authority fetishists. Yup.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. 84,000,000 Dick Cheney clones

That's my best guess, at least...

[regularguy]

8. I think one of 'em shot my pa!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

4. Fucktards.

:shrug:

[regularguy]

10. I bet none of them own "Kind of Blue"...

[WritingIsMyReligion]

24. Heathens.

Only fucktards don't own KoB.

:hide:

:D

[Starbucks Anarchist]

26. Nice post, Kenny G.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

30. Way to be, noodler.

Dave Koz's more inspired than you.

:hide:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

31. Just for that, I'm going to put this on the turntable:

:P

[TZ]

5. People who don't know how to think critically

or think for themselves.

[regularguy]

9. Well, if they're not going to think for themselves,

they should technically be as easily won over by us (liberals, etc) as them, no?

[nomorenomore08]

11. Maybe, but generally speaking, a more left-leaning political philosophy

doesn't offer the same "Father/God/Fuhrer" reassurance that traditional conservatism/nationalism does. Sure, you could point to leftist "personality cults" (like the ones around Stalin or Mao) as an equivalent to this, but (thankfully) no such left-authoritarian movement exists in this country.

[TZ]

14. You would think

But I know some of them. They still believe that GWB is honorable and as a Christian would never lie..(oh yeah and Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11 and had WMD's...):banghead:

[jobycom]

12. Relatives of the Bush family, and people who thought it was a sexual question.

[regularguy]

13. Reminds me of the Rolling Stone (?) headline

when Patti Davis posed nude:

"Regan and Bush: together again!" or something like that.

[SCantiGOP]

15. here they are

someone sent me this about a year or so ago. I think it about sums it up:


WASHINGTON, May 11 - President Bush appears to be losing support among a
key group of voters who had hitherto stood firmly with the president
even as his poll numbers among other groups fell dramatically.

A new Gallup poll shows that, for the first time, Bush's approval rating
has fallen below 50% among total fucking morons, and now stands at 44%.
This represents a dramatic drop compared to a poll taken just last
December, when 62% of total fucking morons expressed support for the
president and his policies.

The current poll, conducted by phone with 1,409 total fucking morons
between May 4 and May 8, reveals that only 44% of those polled believe
the president is doing a good job, while 27% believe he is doing a poor
job and 29% don't understand the question.

The December poll, conducted by phone with 1,530 total fucking morons,
showed 62% approved of the president, 7% disapproved and 31% didn't
understand the question.

Faltering approval ratings for the president among a group once thought
to be a reliable source of loyal support gives Republicans one more
reason to be nervous about the upcoming mid-term elections. "If we can't
depend on the support of total fucking morons," says Sen. Rick Santorum
(R-PA), "then we've got a big problem. They're a key factor in our
electoral strategy, and an important part of today's Republican
coalition."

"We've taken the total fucking moron vote for granted," says Rep. Tom
Feeney (R-FL), "and now we're paying for it. We've let the Democrats
control the debate lately, and they've dragged discourse back into the
realm of complex, nuanced issues. So your average total fucking moron
turns on his TV and sees his Republican Congressman arguing about
Constitutional law or the complexities of state formation in the Middle
East, and he tunes out. He wants to hear comforting, pandering,
flattering bromides and he doesn't want to hear a logical argument more
complex than what you'd find on a bumper sticker."

For Feeney, the poll is a dire warning that Republicans can ignore only
at their peril. "This should send a signal that we have to regain
control of the debate if we want the support of our key constituencies
in the coming election and beyond. We need to bring public discourse
back into the realm of stupidity and vacuity. We should be talking about
homosexual illegal immigrants burning flags. We should be talking about
the power of pride. We should be talking about freedom fries. These are
the issues that resonate with total fucking morons."

But some total fucking morons say it's too late. Bill Snarpel of Enid,
Oklahoma is a total fucking moron who voted for Bush in both 2000 and
2004. But he says he won't be voting for Bush in 2008. "I don't like it
that he was going to sell our ports to the Arabs. If the Arabs own the
ports then that means they'll let all the Arabs in and then we'll all be
riding camels and wearing towels on our heads. I don't want my children
singing the Star Spangled Banner in Muslim."

Total fucking moron Kurt Meyer of Turlock, California also says his once
solid support for Bush has collapsed. "He invaded Iraq and all those
soldiers died, and for what? We destroyed all their WMDs, but now their
new president is making fun of us and saying he's going to build nuclear
bombs and that we can't stop him. Well, nuclear bombs are even worse
than WMDs, so what did we accomplish?"

Laura McDonald, a total fucking moron from Chandler, Arizona, says she
is disappointed that the president hasn't been a more forceful advocate
of Christian values. "This country was founded on Christian values," she
says, "but you'd never know it looking around and seeing all the
Mexicans running around. I thought Bush was going to bring Jesus back
into the government. Instead, Christians are being persecuted worse than
ever before in history, because all these Mexicans come here and tell
Christians that we have to respect their religious beliefs. So now it's
illegal for children to pray in school. Soon it will be illegal for them
to speak English."

Not all total fucking morons have turned their backs on the president.
Jeb Larkin of Topeka, Kansas says he still fully supports Bush. "He is
doing a great job. He is a great president. He is a great decider. I
have a puppy. His tail sticks straight up and you can see his butthole."

And not all Republican lawmakers are concerned about the poll. Sen.
Lamar Alexander (R-TN), for one, does not find it a cause for anxiety.
While he agrees that his party should not take total fucking morons for
granted, they "really don't have anywhere else to go. They're never
going to be able to understand someone like Al Gore or John Kerry or
anybody intelligent and articulate who wants to talk about substantive
issues. Just try having a conversation with one of them about global
warming. They'll say, 'Oh, but Rush says volcanoes consume more ozone
than humans do.' I mean, they're morons! Total fucking morons!"

"They've got nowhere else to go," Alexander reaffirms with a smile, "and
they always vote."

[regularguy]

18. Lol! I remember reading that somewhere....

[billyskank]

16. Well, there must be at least 28% of people

who don't pay any attention at all to what's going on.

[regularguy]

19. But you would think we'd have a 50/50 crack at them.

Or at least 60/40? In any event, I would say well over 50% pay no attention and give no fuck (as Ben Folds would say).

[unpossibles]

23. nope. Know why?

Because they've been trained to disregard information which contradicts their mindset. It's kind of brilliant in a sad and shameful way.

People like Rush Limbaugh have told them that universities, science, and the media are all liberal conspiracies and biased and full of lies, so people will shut out actual facts which contradict their steady diet of propaganda.

Furthermore, they've been told that the left is anti-religious and other lies which make their target audience distrust us - and any information which we may have - immediately. To complicate matters, they like to "teach the controversy" - the awful idea that "all ideas are equal" so they can further poison the collective well of intelligence and information with crap.

The they replace that information void with their own propaganda, stir for a few decades, and voila!


Seriously though, I have encountered this in individual discussions with Bush Bots. I tried to remain rational and to provide information backed by credible sources and links and data, and they immediately come back with the claim that I am lying because all of my sources are suspect. They then throw out the idea that I am brainwashed by George Soros and that we are the ones who are duped by big money propaganda. Makes it awfully hard to have a conversation, especially when you add in that I was called all sorts of horrible names before I finally snapped and called the guy a brainwashed idiot.

[regularguy]

38. You sound like you've been brainwashed

by George Soros. I know I have. :)

[Brigid]

17. You've got to remember . . .

these are just simple farmers. They're people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know . . . morons. :rofl:

[regularguy]

35. Only Bolsheviks quote Mel Brooks movies...

[harmonicon]

52. yeah, right

It boggles my mind when people think farmers = right wing. My grandparents were farmers their entire lives, and serious new deal Democrats. My grandfather fought in WWII, and they knew that FDR had saved this country's ass, and that the republicans would fuck them over. Now, the weren't crazy about Clinton, but I don't think they ever voted Republican. "Vote in your own best interests" my grandfather said.

[laylah]

20. Unfortunately,

my nephews (6 of them) are...and my parents raised them as dyed in the wool Dems...go figger!

[regularguy]

42. Rebellion against parents is at least

one of the better reasons I can think of. But still not a very good one.

[unpossibles]

21. what about the "Lottery voters"?

you know, the ones who either think they are already filthy rich because they have a bunch of cool stuff, or the ones who aren't rich, but know they will be someday when their ticket wins.

[regularguy]

33. Yeah. I've heard it called "anticipitory greed"

[BeachBaby]

22. Well you know what they say.....

"A Republican President won't lose the support of a voter, until the voter gets hit in the wallet."

So when you figure in the obscenely wealthy people, making profits from war, oil, and interest....and throw in the evangelical right who think that the end is near....you got your 28%.

[skygazer]

25. My daughter my father and my brother don't fit into any of those categories

My daughter is poor, sweet, caring, compassionate and giving. The kind of person you'd expect to be a Democrat. Why is she a Republican? I have no idea. Maybe because of single issues like abortion which she is against. Maybe because she's gullible. I don't know.

My dad is a good man as is my brother. They are lifelong Republicans and support the idiot - I mean the president. I don't know why that is either but they are not rich, racist, angry or religious. Or young and intolerant.

I don't understand it and I don't think you can fully categorize it. :shrug:

[regularguy]

36. I know people like that too,

I'm just having a fit of irreverence. Ok, bitter irreverence. But your point is well taken.

[pitohui]

27. i think they are all hard core racists

maybe my opinion is colored by where i live but that's what i honestly think

[OmahaBlueDog]

40. Pissed Off Small Business Guy Votes For Dubya

I can never remember if it was Jimmy or Rosalyn Carter who said "Ronald Reagan makes people feel comfortable with their prejudices"

The GOP is the party of pissed off white folks. You feel screwed by affirmative action? Join the GOP. Pissed off that your kids have to go to school with ? The Republicans might help. Pissed off that you have to pay taxes to pay for on welfare with their babies and their excuses not to work? George W can solve that.

The other person who votes for George W is pissed off small business guy. This guy is pissed off about everything. He is pissed off that his workers get sick <"they're the damn reason my health insurance is so high">, he's pissed off that he has to pay for work comp <"he didn't hurt his back lifting anything here -- he hurt hisself over the weekend, came into work Monday at 8, and was holding his back and screaming at 8: 30. It's a bunch of damn fraud is what workers compensation is!>, and he's pissed off about wages <"Y'know I'm a law abidin' guy, which is why I pay at least $10 an hour, but I'm seriously thinking about bringin in some of those Mexicans, because them sonsabitches will work their asses off for $6 an hour if I pay cash">

[regularguy]

41. I used to feel that way.

Sometimes I still do. I agree that it might depend on what region of the country you're in.

[harmonicon]

53. not all, but most

I got in an argument with a Republican once, and I just asked him how he (or anyone) could vote for a party that was openly trying to get the racist vote. He said something to me about not being a "one issue voter".... AHHHHHH!!!!!! As I pointed out, if that one issue is open racism, that's maybe something you should stay away from. I don't think that he was a racist - I think he just hated all poor people, damn them if they happen to not be white.

[crim son]

28. I met one over the weekend.

I'd classify him as fundamentally intelligent and profoundly indifferent to opinions that contradict his own. A nice guy. The disconnect was bizarre.

[regularguy]

44. I meet people like this too.

A guy I played music with for years told me he was a Bush supporter. Then I was rewinding in my head to try and remember what sort of offensive anti-republican things I might have said to him over the years. We're still friends and who knows, he might be one of those people who got off the kool aid.

[crim son]

46. delete: dupe

[crim son]

47. I try to keep it anti-bush and anti-neocon, rather than anti-republican,

simply because so many republicans I know despise the shrub and what he's done to the country. In that sense, we are all in this together.

[Tektonik]

29. greedy people and religious fucktards

[Stuart G]

32. Here is my breakdown as to who these people are

10 percent........ this is the liar, con man vote.
,,,, These people are pathological liars, just like Mr. Bush. Real solid support here..You know them: everything they say is a lie. Every workplace has one somewhere..

..10 percent........ REPUBLICANS NO MATTER WHAT..

4 percent........ people who think this is Bush I

4 percent........ the stupid frat/failed businessman vote...they stick together too.

[regularguy]

43. Think it's Bush I, LOL!

[Pierre.Suave]

34. Do you want to find out?

www.freerepublic.com


Enjoy...

[regularguy]

37. I had more of an academic/ Ivory tower summary

in mind. Won't be putting on my virtual waders tonight! :)

[GoddessOfGuinness]

39. I'd be willing to bet that more than a few...

are people who swallowed the "If you aren't with me, you're not American" bullshit that the RW has been spewing ever since 9/11. They're basically honest, but gullible. Many probably remember Pearl Harbor and compare our illegal war in Iraq with WWII.

[mitchum]

45. The greedy and the stupid

[Generic Brad]

48. I think they're the posse from "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid"

Who are those guys? The guys I just mentioned.

[DarkTirade]

49. You forgot the ones who vote for who their pastor tells them to.

That's most of the 28% right there.

[QMPMom]

50. I can name three of them:

1. My sister.
2. My brother-in-law.
3. My step-mother.

It is things like this that really make me wonder if I am DNA related to my sister. My step-mother actually donated to his campaigns.

One cannot have an intelligent political conversation with certain members of my family. It is really, realy sad. Scary, too.

[Initech]

51. Sounds about right, but you've left out 2 key groups of people:

Marketing majors
Right-wing bloggers and radio talk show hosts