Really though, in Episode 4, Why are the Stormtroopers such piss poor shots?

[bicentennial_baby]

Specifically, in the scene with Luke and Leia on the bridge. Seriously. I can understand Luke and Leia not being all that handy, but the Stormtroopers? :wtf:

Does. Not. Compute.

[sniffa]

1. They do Jango Fett a disservice

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5475153&mesg_id=5475447

[supernova]

2. The fatal flaw of villains everywhere

They all have terrible aim!

:rofl:

[bicentennial_baby]

6. Series!

Except for Vader in Ep 4, he was a badass shot. :D

[flvegan]

3. Ever notice that both on the A-Team AND the GI Joe cartoon

nobody every got shot?

Ever?

[bicentennial_baby]

11. You raise an intersting point, my friend...

B.A. Baracus pities the fool.

Series.

[RetroLounge]

4. I think it has to do with Parsecs*

and Luke was a replicant.

:hi:

RL

* - a Parsec is an ancient poetic form invented by George Lucas involving 475,000 stanzas with 17 lines each in which all lines rhyme with Yoda...

[bicentennial_baby]

5. !

:spray:

:hi:

[Dr. Strange]

8. Aw crap! You out-parseced me!

:rofl:

[RetroLounge]

10. Your definition is incorrect

see mine again

RL

[Dr. Strange]

15. Are you sure you aren't confusing "parsec" with "porrex?"

A porrex, if I recall correctly, is an ancient poetic form invented by George Lucas involving three brazillion stanzas with 17 lines each in which all lines rhyme with Yoda.

:shrug:

[Dr. Strange]

7. Part of the cloning procedure...

When they took away their individuality and made them servile and unquestioning, several parsecs* of genetic material were removed. Part of that material involved hand-eye coordination, thereby reducing the clones' ability to bullseye womprats in a T-16 back home.


*A parsec is a unit of genetic material discovered by George Lucas during the filming of Episode IV.

[bicentennial_baby]

9. I see...

:rofl:

[Dr. Strange]

13. Glad to be of service.

[TZ]

20. "several parsecs of genetic material.."

That is generated by having parsex right?:D

[Dr. Strange]

21. Well, assuming the species under discussion is parsexual, yes.

Obviously, this wouldn't apply to asexual species.

[DarkTirade]

12. Can't see out of the damn helmets.

Bad design, really.

[bicentennial_baby]

14. One would think that the Empire would have been more forward thinking...

A shame, really. *shakes head*

Although, if they were better shots, I suppose that may have ended it all right there. Not so good for the whole trilogy thang. Hm.

[Hayabusa]

16. The Best Stormtrooper they had

defected in the year prior...

[bicentennial_baby]

17. Figures...It's like pro sports

:D

[Hayabusa]

23. Except in pro sports

they don't come after you with blaster and lightsaber blazing...

Yeah. Kyle Katarn rocks.

[DarkTirade]

24. Unless you're playing Jedi Academy and he's being controlled by the AI...

then he kinda sucked sometimes.

Seriously, the AI controlled people in the Jedi Knight II games don't pay attention to who's in their line of fire. You're more likely to get shot or hit with a lightsaber by a friend than by an enemy. When I want to take out a group of stormtroopers without doing any work I'll line myself up so that one of them is directly behind another, that way he'll shoot his buddy in the back.

[Hayabusa]

25. Reminds of Outcast

When Jan kept getting in my line of fire. Poor girl got shot right in the back of the head with a fully charged blaster shot. Yes, it was accidental!

[DarkTirade]

26. Yeah, they'll walk right into your line of fire too.

Or saber swing sometimes.

The really annoying thing was in Academy (and maybe in Outcast too, I haven't played that one as much) if you do too much damage to an ally, every one of the allies will then decide that you're an enemy.

And they do it to the AI controlled characters too. So if you're in a level that's thick with jedi, like the last few levels, pay close attention. Every now and then you'll see a character blunder into another character's saber one time too many... then suddenly every jedi there will turn against that poor AI and kill it.

Worse yet, if they blunder into your saber one too many times... they'll all turn against you. For the entire rest of the level.

Seriously though, the level in the first tier in Jedi Academy that you do with Chewbacca... invariably I end up getting shot in the back by him at least two or three times in that level. Because he'll decide to start shooting at the bad guy that I'm heading for. Without fail.

[Hayabusa]

27. My Interpretation of that the Jedi betraying each other in Outcast

They just wanted to find an excuse to get rid of Kyp after his little misadventures a year earlier. "P

[DarkTirade]

28. If they have no compunctions against killing jedi that pissed them off...

then why did no one kill Rosh halfway through Jedi Academy?? :P

God damn he was annoying.

[Hayabusa]

29. LOL

I had to keep going "The light side ending is the canon one... The light side ending is the canon one..." during a certain portion of the game.

[DarkTirade]

33. I just save the game there...

then do whatever the hell I want to.

Then after I get my frustration out of the way, I can load the saved game and do what you're SUPPOSED to do. :P

[DarkTirade]

18. Yeah, it's kinda like in E.T.... yeah, he can make inanimate objects fly.

So he could have just flown right back up to his ship before it left.

But then the movie woulda been 5 minutes long.

[bicentennial_baby]

19. You're blowing my mind, d00d...

:rofl:

But series, couldn't they get one shot in? A flesh wound? x(

[leeroysphitz]

22. Why do you hate Star Wars? Seriesly.

[edbermac]

30. Why do Luke and Leia, brother and sister, have the hots for each other?

I mean, really!

[bicentennial_baby]

31. That's a whole other matter, better dealt with in Return of the Jedi

:D

[barb162]

32. In every episode they're crappy shots. n/t

[Lethe]

34. yeah and it's funny when Obi Wan says "only Imperial storm troopers are so precise"

in the scene where they are inspecting the jawa massacre....

wtf, they can't hit shit normally - do they practice on jawas or something at the evil marksmanship training classes?

[GaYellowDawg]

35. It's the "Principle of Evil Marksmanship"

And it's the most unintentionally ironic line in the entire series.

But here's a link to the principle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormtrooper_effect

[petronius]

36. Because otherwise it would be a really short movie...

A related point that always bugs me is when the good guy has a clear shot at the bad guy near the beginning of the movie, but only gives a speech and lets the bad guy walk. Think how much suffering could be avoided if the white hats did more shootin' and less speechifyin'...